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GLAS fertiliser calculation help

  • 14-02-2016 1:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭


    I'm just trying to get my head around as to how much fertiliser I can apply to pasture in the low input permanent pasture parcel

    The maximum amount of chemical Nitrogen that can be applied is 40kg / Ha

    I always applied fertiliser in 'bags an acre'

    If my understanding is correct, if I have 2 bags of 18-6-12 (100 kg of fert.) 18kg of the 100kg is Nitrogen?


    Therefore 40 / 18 = 2.2 bags/acre is the max amount of 18-6-12 that can be applied in a year for low input permanent pasture?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    josephsoap wrote: »
    I'm just trying to get my head around as to how much fertiliser I can apply to pasture in the low input permanent pasture parcel

    The maximum amount of chemical Nitrogen that can be applied is 40kg / Ha

    I always applied fertiliser in 'bags an acre'

    If my understanding is correct, if I have 2 bags of 18-6-12 (100 kg of fert.) 18kg of the 100kg is Nitrogen?


    Therefore 40 / 18 = 2.2 bags/acre is the max amount of 18-6-12 that can be applied in a year for low input permanent pasture?

    No I think it's 18kg per bag. So two bags is 36kg just short of the amount per ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    croot wrote: »
    No I think it's 18kg per bag. So two bags is 36kg just short of the amount per ha.

    Cheers croot, 2 bags per acre is still not bad.

    Also does anyone know if slurry can be applied to LIP pasture?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Cheers croot, 2 bags per acre is still not bad.

    Also does anyone know if slurry can be applied to LIP pasture?

    Yeah as much as you like as long as it's not by splash plate afaik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    josephsoap wrote: »
    I'm just trying to get my head around as to how much fertiliser I can apply to pasture in the low input permanent pasture parcel

    The maximum amount of chemical Nitrogen that can be applied is 40kg / Ha

    I always applied fertiliser in 'bags an acre'

    If my understanding is correct, if I have 2 bags of 18-6-12 (100 kg of fert.) 18kg of the 100kg is Nitrogen?


    Therefore 40 / 18 = 2.2 bags/acre is the max amount of 18-6-12 that can be applied in a year for low input permanent pasture?

    To convert kg/ha to units/acre, you multiply by O.8.
    In a bag of 18 6 12 you have 18 units of N, 6P and 12K.
    You can do the maths yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Cheers croot, 2 bags per acre is still not bad.

    Also does anyone know if slurry can be applied to LIP pasture?

    I think you're right in your first post, 18/6/12 is 18% nitrogen, ie 18kgs N in 100kgs 18/6/12


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    croot wrote: »
    No I think it's 18kg per bag. So two bags is 36kg just short of the amount per ha.

    Incorrect. 18 6 and 12 are percentages. In a 50kg bag you have 9kg N 3kg P and 6kg K.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭TPF2012


    40 kg/ha equals 32.4 units/ac. So you could only put out 1.8 bags to the acre of 18 6 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    I said wrote: »
    Yeah as much as you like as long as it's not by splash plate afaik

    Was it like that in AEOS also? That's a ridiculous restriction if true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    OP have you got soil samples done yet. If not better to get them done before applying fert.
    We have low input permanent pasture as part of our Glas application and our advisor has to do soil samples before we spread slurry/fert. He wanted to do them two weeks ago be we had to put him off as we were not about on the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Worth mentioning that you seem to be interchanging hectares and acres there in your calculations. 40kg a hectare, not an acre...

    Roughly 2.5 acres in a hectare, so that is 16kg an acre.

    9kg in a bag of 18-6-12, so that is around 1 and three quarters of a bag per acre, or just over three bags of 10-10-20 per acre


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    I said wrote: »
    Yeah as much as you like as long as it's not by splash plate afaik

    There are no restrictions on how you want to spread your slurry or lime. As mentioned just make sure you get your soil testing fine first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    There are no restrictions on how you want to spread your slurry or lime. As mentioned just make sure you get your soil testing fine first

    I think using the trailing shoe type methods is a separate measure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Base price wrote: »
    OP have you got soil samples done yet. If not better to get them done before applying fert.
    We have low input permanent pasture as part of our Glas application and our advisor has to do soil samples before we spread slurry/fert. He wanted to do them two weeks ago be we had to put him off as we were not about on the day.

    The Nutrient plan had to be in for the end of the year & planners have to take the soil samples & now before is ideal before application, but if we're to wait on the samples will some of us be spreading in May?


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