Cork North Central: #GE16

dulpit

I see there is a thread for South Central, but nothing for the norries, so here goes

Current TDs:

• Billy Kelleher (FF)
• Kathleen Lynch (Lab)
• Dara Murphy (FG)
• Jonathan O'Brien (SF)

This is my first time living in North Central for a General Election, and the quality of candidates is quite different to that in South Central (where I'm from).

From what I can see/hear, Dara Murphy has endeared himself to nobody, but will probably get a seat anyway. Billy Kelleher should also be sorted with a seat, and I reckon O'Brien will romp home well ahead of the pack.

Last seat will be interesting then, between Thomas Gould (SF), Mick Barry (AAAPBP) and Kathleen Lynch.

Personally speaking, I'd hate for Lynch to lose her seat, but the venom with which people speak about her makes me think she's screwed.

What do people reckon?

dulpit

Interesting odds from Paddy Power:


So they have SF taking 2 seats here

gimmick

I know nothing about Gould politically but I know him through work and seems a decent type. Still wouldn't spoil my vote by voting SF though.

O Brien is an absolute joke though. He will get elected no bother, though Gould will probably split his vote somewhat. I fail to see that he has done anything at all of note as a TD. I know him through other cirlces and I cannot fathom how he pulls the wool over peoples eyes. His machine must be pretty good to get this goober elected.

Billy Kelleher tops the poll imo. I dont like him either, but he seems to have a very safe seat somehow.

Darragh Murphy is a knob, but I think he gets in also.

I think Mick Barry takes the last seat. He is very active and very vocal and does come across as a genuine type. It wil be a fight with Gould. I see Lynch getting destroyed.

dulpit

gimmick wrote: »

His machine must be pretty good to get this goober elected.

From what I've heard and know - I think this is the truth...

Bussywussy

gimmick wrote: »

I know nothing about Gould politically but I know him through work and seems a decent type. Still wouldn't spoil my vote by voting SF though.

O Brien is an absolute joke though. He will get elected no bother, though Gould will probably split his vote somewhat. I fail to see that he has done anything at all of note as a TD. I know him through other cirlces and I cannot fathom how he pulls the wool over peoples eyes. His machine must be pretty good to get this goober elected.

Billy Kelleher tops the poll imo. I dont like him either, but he seems to have a very safe seat somehow.

Darragh Murphy is a knob, but I think he gets in also.

I think Mick Barry takes the last seat. He is very active and very vocal and does come across as a genuine type. It wil be a fight with Gould. I see Lynch getting destroyed.

I Read somewhere recently that O Brien has raised more issues in the Dail than any other Cork NC TD, Lynch and Murphy are a joke,he cant even run a catering business then gets a ministerial position

WoolyJumper

No one running for Social Democrats unfortunately. Otherwise they'd have my vote. For the first time running up to an election I have no idea who I want to vote for.

dulpit

WoolyJumper wrote: »

No one running for Social Democrats unfortunately. Otherwise they'd have my vote. For the first time running up to an election I have no idea who I want to vote for.

It's easier to list who you don't want to vote for and see who's left...

applehunter

There was always a Labour vote in North Central, now looks like they will get half the ticket.

The closer they have got to power the more I am dismayed with SF so can't give them my vote.

Kathleen Lynch is a goner IMO.

mikeym

What are the main issues up in Cork North Central??

Housing? The M20? Crime?

dulpit

mikeym wrote: »

What are the main issues up in Cork North Central??

Housing? The M20? Crime?

I walked home the other day from work (Blackpool to Gurranabraher) and based on the amount of posters in people's houses - water will be a big thing. I'd say housing may crop up too...

Roger Hassenforder

Cork North Central includes some of the South of the city, Bishopstown eg.


voted for Murphy last time, he wont be getting it this time.
His running mate is rather pleasing on the eye though.

I might give Oliver Moran a one, but he'll probably be eliminated early.
Cant give my 2 to FG FF or Lab.
whats a fella to do?

Nonoperational

gimmick wrote: »

I know nothing about Gould politically but I know him through work and seems a decent type. Still wouldn't spoil my vote by voting SF though.

O Brien is an absolute joke though. He will get elected no bother, though Gould will probably split his vote somewhat. I fail to see that he has done anything at all of note as a TD. I know him through other cirlces and I cannot fathom how he pulls the wool over peoples eyes. His machine must be pretty good to get this goober elected.

Billy Kelleher tops the poll imo. I dont like him either, but he seems to have a very safe seat somehow.

Darragh Murphy is a knob, but I think he gets in also.

I think Mick Barry takes the last seat. He is very active and very vocal and does come across as a genuine type. It wil be a fight with Gould. I see Lynch getting destroyed.

I heard O'Brien on the radio today. He's a malicious piece of work. Playing to the populist working class vote by spouting completely ridiculous impractical nonsense. It really gets my goat the way they accuse the past governments of being corrupt when they are the biggest shower of dishonest manipulators you'd ever come across.

KCAccidental

dulpit wrote: »

Interesting odds from Paddy Power:


So they have SF taking 2 seats here

I always take the Paddy Power odds with a big grain of salt. Aislinn Tongue at 18/1, a candidate that has refused to do any media appearances and seems to exist solely on twitter. While Ted Tynan who got over 1,000 first preferences in the local elections is at 100/1! They must have judged their odds from the amount of twitter followers each candidate has as opposed to feeling on the ground.

mikeym

Everyone in Cork North Central should place a bet on Paddy Power that Ted will get a seat and everyone should vote for Ted LOL!

More money for the people

I have no affiliation to the Workers Party.

boardsuser1

gimmick wrote: »

I know nothing about Gould politically but I know him through work and seems a decent type. Still wouldn't spoil my vote by voting SF though.

O Brien is an absolute joke though. He will get elected no bother, though Gould will probably split his vote somewhat. I fail to see that he has done anything at all of note as a TD. I know him through other cirlces and I cannot fathom how he pulls the wool over peoples eyes. His machine must be pretty good to get this goober elected.

Billy Kelleher tops the poll imo. I dont like him either, but he seems to have a very safe seat somehow.

Darragh Murphy is a knob, but I think he gets in also.

I think Mick Barry takes the last seat. He is very active and very vocal and does come across as a genuine type. It wil be a fight with Gould. I see Lynch getting destroyed.

You work in JDS foods then??

boardsuser1

Once Dara Murphy and Kathleen Lynch aren't returned i'll be happy. Billy Kelleher seems happy to sit in O'Brien's in Blackpool S.C drinking coffee with his examiner.don't like the man but he'll get back in. O'Brien called to my door on thursday,the only one to do so.water is a very big issue with me. Can't afford to feed myself never mind pay for water. And before ye say it i had a job and lost it just recently. Can't get anything decent in my line of work sadly.

Nonoperational

Go away out of that sur you spent 8K on a car there recently!

boardsuser1

Nonoperational wrote: »

Go away out of that sur you spent 8K on a car there recently!

Redundancy Sir. Plus i paid my water charges via my motor tax which i paid in full for the year.

flo8s967qjh0nd

Used to be a fan of Lynch. She only has herself to blame for the downfall. A number of relatively minor local issues (though important locally) handled poorly. Seems to have forgotten who elected her. It mightnt be the best system but she hasnt stood by her constituents.

boardsuser1

Brendan Fat Timer wrote: »

Used to be a fan of Lynch. She only has herself to blame for the downfall. A number of relatively minor local issues (though important locally) handled poorly. Seems to have forgotten who elected her. It mightnt be the best system but she hasnt stood by her constituents.

+1

Also if you recall Murphy "i have James Reilly on the phone giving a cast iron guarantee on the orthopaedic hospital" he's done nothing either bar his antics with taxigate.

Only Lynch and her supporters claim she has done any good, something i can't see.

As a previous poster said, Murphy couldn't run a catering business yet was given a ministry. As well as appointing his wife as his secretary just like lynch did with her husband. #gravytrain

Nonoperational

KC161 wrote: »

Redundancy Sir. Plus i paid my water charges via my motor tax which i paid in full for the year.

I'm only joking. None of my business at all.

boardsuser1

Nonoperational wrote: »

I'm only joking. None of my business at all.

Ah jasus i know that. I'm only ball hopping myself. Apologies if i didn't come across that way.

dulpit

Thomas Gould seems to be outpacing Jonathan O'Brien big time when it comes to postering, I noticed he (Gould) has one directly outside O'Brien's constituency office on Shandon Street :pac:

I can't see O'Brien being beaten for first place though, as much as I would like to see it...

boardsuser1

dulpit wrote: »

Thomas Gould seems to be outpacing Jonathan O'Brien big time when it comes to postering, I noticed he (Gould) has one directly outside O'Brien's constituency office on Shandon Street :pac:

I can't see O'Brien being beaten for first place though, as much as I would like to see it...

Mick Barry has multiples of 4 posters at a time in places around Apple and Churchfield park. Will O'Brien be able to carry Gould with him at the expense of Lynch i wonder

dulpit

KC161 wrote: »

Mick Barry has multiples of 4 posters at a time in places around Apple and Churchfield park. Will O'Brien be able to carry Gould with him at the expense of Lynch i wonder

Paddy Power seem to think so. I'd say that last seat will come down to Lynch -v- Gould -v- Barry. The fact there's 2 FG might help Lynch with transfers down the line, be an interesting one to watch..

gimmick

KC161 wrote: »

You work in JDS foods then??

Nope.

boardsuser1

dulpit wrote: »

Paddy Power seem to think so. I'd say that last seat will come down to Lynch -v- Gould -v- Barry. The fact there's 2 FG might help Lynch with transfers down the line, be an interesting one to watch..

The voters of Cork North Central would be mad to re elect Murphy. He got in last time on lies.it'll take O'Leary's votes to get him over the line. Will people buy the FG recovery nonsense. There's no recovery in this constituency.

FrStone

KC161 wrote: »

The voters of Cork North Central would be mad to re elect Murphy. He got in last time on lies.it'll take O'Leary's votes to get him over the line. Will people buy the FG recovery nonsense. There's no recovery in this constituency.

Plenty of recovery in Cork north central. Plenty out in rural areas will vote for Dara Murphy as a result. The anti everything parties will not do well in rural areas. I'm half thinking about giving my number 2 to Kathleen Lynch, to keep out Barry or Sinn Fein.

boardsuser1

FrStone wrote: »

Plenty of recovery in Cork north central. Plenty out in rural areas will vote for Dara Murphy as a result. The anti everything parties will not do well in rural areas. I'm half thinking about giving my number 2 to Kathleen Lynch, to keep out Barry or Sinn Fein.

I'm bordering the north west of the city. Only Apple is showing any huge signs. Murphy didn't even make the quota last time iirc. Barry hasn't a hope. SF might well get 2.

gimmick

I am hoping that the re drawing of the lines will hurt SF and their bullshít. Like, I cannot imagine many people from Victoria Cross/Orchard Rd areas will be stupid enough to listen to any of their nonsense about abolishing everything.

dulpit

FrStone wrote: »

I'm half thinking about giving my number 2 to Kathleen Lynch, to keep out Barry or Sinn Fein.

Why not give her a number 1?

boardsuser1

gimmick wrote: »

I am hoping that the re drawing of the lines will hurt SF and their bullshít. Like, I cannot imagine many people from Victoria Cross/Orchard Rd areas will be stupid enough to listen to any of their nonsense about abolishing everything.

That's where the posh/wealthy are. Rich as fcuk!!!! FG/LAB out there for sure.

applehunter

I look on with a bit of envy at South Central with likes of McGrath, MM & Coveney.

bridgettedon

FrStone wrote: »

Plenty of recovery in Cork north central. Plenty out in rural areas will vote for Dara Murphy as a result. The anti everything parties will not do well in rural areas. I'm half thinking about giving my number 2 to Kathleen Lynch, to keep out Barry or Sinn Fein.

Why do you want to keep out Barry?

I think Dara Murphy and Billy Kelleher will get in though I'm not a fan of either. I don't think Kathleen Lynch has much hope. I could never vote SF so that's another 2 candidates out. Very poor selection of candidates. I hate that people will fall for SF spouting rubbish. Some people are very susceptible to hearing lower taxes and don't take into account the consequences of these actions.

boardsuser1

This seems half interesting

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/politics/irish-politics/general-election-constituencies/cork-north-central

KCAccidental

KC161 wrote: »

This seems half interesting

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/politics/irish-politics/general-election-constituencies/cork-north-central

The bookies giving a troll phantom candidate odds of 18/1 still seems utterly bizarre to me.

FrStone

bridgettedon wrote: »

Why do you want to keep out Barry?

I think Dara Murphy and Billy Kelleher will get in though I'm not a fan of either. I don't think Kathleen Lynch has much hope. I could never vote SF so that's another 2 candidates out. Very poor selection of candidates. I hate that people will fall for SF spouting rubbish. Some people are very susceptible to hearing lower taxes and don't take into account the consequences of these actions.

I don't want a candidate to get in that is against every think, lpt, water charges, bin charges. His economics are wishy washy.

Murphy and Kelleher will definitely get in as will O'brien.

boardsuser1

FrStone wrote: »

I don't want a candidate to get in that is against every think, lpt, water charges, bin charges. His economics are wishy washy.

Murphy and Kelleher will definitely get in as will O'brien.

Gould to get the last seat in a 3 way battle with Lynch and Barry

dulpit

Is anybody actually campaigning or canvassing up here? I know FF called next door, but not to us. And apparently the AAA/PBP crowd were out some day last week too, but that's it. Nobody else has called, haven't seen them on the streets or in the shops or anything. It's weird...

Roger Hassenforder

dulpit wrote: »

Is anybody actually campaigning or canvassing up here? I know FF called next door, but not to us. And apparently the AAA/PBP crowd were out some day last week too, but that's it. Nobody else has called, haven't seen them on the streets or in the shops or anything. It's weird...

we've had a few blueshirts here
no one else

boardsuser1

I've had O'Brien personally call to my door. I've had canvassers of Barry and Kelleher call but other than that no one else. Which is a pity as i was hoping to give Murphy and Lynch a lovely bashing.

gimmick

Just had Mick Barrys people at my door. Got very cross with me for saying I paid my water and quite condescending thereafter. Really talked herself out of any sort of preference.

Talk at the moment that its Dara Murphy is losing out with Kathleen Lynch surviving. Mick Barry, Billy Kelleher and Jonathon O Brien taking the others.

boardsuser1

gimmick wrote: »

Just had Mick Barrys people at my door. Got very cross with me for saying I paid my water and quite condescending thereafter. Really talked herself out of any sort of preference.

Talk at the moment that its Dara Murphy is losing out with Kathleen Lynch surviving. Mick Barry, Billy Kelleher and Jonathon O Brien taking the others.

Murphy is proving far too controversial with taxi's anongst other things. If he survives then it's a fix. Lynch is useless. Barry's people are big on ther issue. In my case it's not that i won't pay, i bloody can't #taxedtodeath

boardsuser1

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

we've had a few blueshirts here
no one else

Aren't you lucky. Did you watch the debate last night? I have my anti water poster up hence why i have no FG/LAB most likely.

gimmick

Murphy seems to be a bit of a knob which isn't helping him. I know a few staunch FGers who hope he loses out.

boardsuser1

gimmick wrote: »

Murphy seems to be a bit of a knob which isn't helping him. I know a few staunch FGers who hope he loses out.

He only got in on pure lies due to him same James Reilly would keep St Mary's in Gurranabraher open and not transfer it to the south infirmary. That was a "cast iron guarantee" so hopefully we'll be here celebrating his demise on saturday. I bet Joe O'Callaghan will be upset then to lose his plum driving job.

My predictions (although unlikely) for the 4 seats are;

O'Brien
Kelleher
Gould
Barry

shnaek

Barry's people called, Murphy's people called, Julie O'Leary called and Paddy O’Leary called yesterday.

dulpit

Got a flier in the door from Peter O'Loughlin today, from Identity Ireland. Racism is alive and well it would seem, hopefully he gets absolutely no votes... :mad:

applehunter

dulpit wrote: »

Got a flier in the door from Peter O'Loughlin today, from Identity Ireland. Racism is alive and well it would seem, hopefully he gets absolutely no votes... :mad:

Where is the racism on the leflet?

Anti-European union is what stood out to me.

gimmick

Is there a website where I can read each persons "manifesto" or whatever they call it?

The only decisions I have made is I wont give SF any preference, but aside from that I have no idea who is getting my vote.

smartvote.ie has me voting green :eek:

http://www.smartvote.ie/results?street_id=100004&const_id=6&e_id=IE001001

Ludo

gimmick wrote: »

Is there a website where I can read each persons "manifesto" or whatever they call it?

The only decisions I have made is I wont give SF any preference, but aside from that I have no idea who is getting my vote.

http://www.rte.ie/news/election-2016/constituencies/cork-north-central/

RTE have a one minute video with most candidates there where they give a brief speech about themselves.