Fianna Fail Achievements in 1997-2011

devnull

Just saw this, they've gotta be joking, surely?

They achieved so many things, and every one was sustainable, and nothing that happened in the crisis was their fault.

looksee

Judging by that link, seems about right

devnull

johnnyskeleton

devnull wrote: »

Just saw this, they've gotta be joking, surely?

They achieved so many things, and every one was sustainable, and nothing that happened in the crisis was their fault.

Sarcasm aside, do you want to set out your views on why the pamphlet is wrong? For example, was any other party advocating anything different? Has politics changed singificantly since then? etc.

gandalf

Firstly most of those "achievements" were funded by a totally unsustainable taxation system that they presided over based on property sales and stamp duty.

The one I take most offense at is "Achieved Peace in Northern Ireland" - Complete bollixs, they continued a process that had been started in the mid 1980's when all the heavy lifting was actually done.

Massive improvements in Health - Now we know they are deluded!

I can't believe they are citing the national broadband scheme as a success. The complete and utter lack of competition in the comms market even in built up areas like Dublin and the fact that swathes of rural areas only have access to sub standard comms infrastructure is still the case today. They are now in the realms of fiction!

Others like creating over 400,000 jobs before they left office is misrepresentation as the complete and utter mess they left decimated the jobs market and turfed an awful lot of people who had be in gainful employment onto the dole queue thanks to their disastrous stewardship of the economy.

RobertKK

gandalf wrote: »

Firstly most of those "achievements" were funded by a totally unsustainable taxation system that they presided over based on property sales and stamp duty.

The one I take most offense at is "Achieved Peace in Northern Ireland" - Complete bollixs, they continued a process that had been started in the mid 1980's when all the heavy lifting was actually done.

Massive improvements in Health - Now we know they are deluded!

I can't believe they are citing the national broadband scheme as a success. The complete and utter lack of competition in the comms market even in built up areas like Dublin and the fact that swathes of rural areas only have access to sub standard comms infrastructure is still the case today. They are now in the realms of fiction!

Others like creating over 400,000 jobs before they left office is misrepresentation as the complete and utter mess they left decimated the jobs market and turfed an awful lot of people who had be in gainful employment onto the dole queue thanks to their disastrous stewardship of the economy.

Actually, Albert Reynolds did a lot to gain the peace, and when he had to resign the IRA were on ceasefire which ended under the FG/Lab/DL government.
But resumed under the FF/PD government.

Joblessness increased across all of Europe and the US at the same time as Ireland was losing many jobs, one can look at it in a very insular manner, but it was a common theme across Europe and the US.

One can argue the narrow tax base based on property taxes was disastrous. But all parties had bought into that if one look at what all were basing their budget manifestos in 2007.
All were supporting a narrow tax base.

The Troika were the best people at running our economy.

BoJack Horseman

Some of it is true, some of it isn't.
Some of it, don't matter to me anyway... (Gaeilge in the EU... whoop-dee-doo).

Also, much of their "achievements" were bought with EU grant money.

its fine for them to big themselves up if they wish though.

saltsun

RobertKK wrote: »

The Troika were the best people at running our economy.

I agree. Much of the economic "heavy lifting" was done according to the plan agreed with the previous Govt and outside actors. FG & Lab had to implement it, and now will attempt to take all the credit. In opposition FG were cheerleaders for spending, we can see they've not changed with this "fiscal space" nonsense. That is not to absolve FF for their sins, but some realism is needed.