Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2

Bandana boy

Not getting all the hate on here , Sure it was not as good as the first one , but that was a fantastic movie.
I still enjoyed it and I along with most of the audience laughed our way through it .
Well worth a watch and would be above par for a Marvel movie.

spacecoyote

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Saw this on Sunday in Dundrum. I thought it was decent but nowhere near as good as the first one, which had left me grinning from ear to ear leaving the cinema .

While I was emotionally invested enough to get a lil dust in my eye when Yondu died

, I felt the film overall was a bit too try hard and cynical, where the first had been effortlessly fun and innocent(well as innocent as a 100 mill budgeted blockbuster can be).

It's like Gunn became a little to proud of this technological terror he'd constructed , oh people loved Drax's misuse of metaphor and humour lets double down on that, Baby Groot likewise. Even with the music I think Gunn, his ears ringing with the praise for his song choices with some of the less well known tracks for the first awesome mix , goes with a few exceptions , a bit too obscure with awesome mix 2.

Also shout out to the tazerface who thought it would be fun to zig zag a laser pen around the cinema screen like Yondu's Arrow . There's a special place in Ravenger hell for you sir.

Ever heard of spoiler tags. Opening weekend, and you're already posting significant plot points

PhiloCypher

spacecoyote wrote: »

Ever heard of spoiler tags. Opening weekend, and you're already posting significant plot points

Feck that was thoughtless of me . Apologies

pixelburp

By all accounts, Guardians of the Galaxy is arguably Marvel's biggest 'surprise' hit to some extent. I do maintain a belief that the medium to long-term viability of the universe as a whole was riding on this film, given it was clearly the most outlandish and niche property released thus far by the studio. Some people wondered if this would be the film to finally break the cycle of success Marvel had enjoyed - myself included: I genuinely thought Rocket & Groot would be too much an ask for the casual audience fed thus far on more 'grounded' adventures. Of course, that theory wasn't even remotely correct, it quickly became one of the more beloved series, and here we are, enjoying at least one follow-up to what turned out to be a highly enjoyable romp full of personality, character, colour and wit.

So in essence, Number 1 was the quintessential Lightning in a Bottle moment, surpassing many people's expectations; with that in mind, I went into the sequel bracing myself for something that simply couldn't hit the same heights. How could it? And yes, while number two wasn't quite as brilliant as the first, I was still pleasantly surprised by a follow-up that maintained that same pulse of daft & irreverent flippancy from the first film, the warm bickering of its chief characters, and a universe full of colour with aesthetic closer to something like Farscape than Star Trek. No doubt that consistency was helped by the presence of the same directorial and writing team of course. This was very much a case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There were some flaws however, chief amongst them being a cast that felt just a shade over-stuffed; nepotism responsible for at least one with the expanded presence of James Gunn's own brother in the role of Kraglin. Nor did the humour always work: the David Hasselhoff jokes kept falling flat for me, while Drax's forced laughter quickly became irritating rather than funny. Even the soundtrack wasn't quite as memorable as the last, though there were standouts such as ELO's 'Mr. Blue Sky'

Plus, I found the sequel reinforced a niggling doubt of mine that finally became more overt, and funnily enough was the same problem that plagued the aforementioned Farscape: the only human character and obvious audience surrogate, was the least interesting, most boring component of the crew. Starlord / Peter Quill's journey - Kurt Russell's presence notwithstanding - just didn't grab me nor was I ever that invested or bothered about his heritage. It all boiled down to that moribund trope of 'Daddy Issues' and nothing more.

It was doubly frustrating because once again Rocket Racoon - of all characters! - hinted at a genuinely deep and meaningful backstory, yet was skipped over - AGAIN. There was clearly so much going on here, especially once he teamed up with Yondu (another waste of potential), yet the narrative kept pumping the brakes so we could go back to those baggy middle-acts, and the literal diorama served to explain Quill's background.

nix

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Feck that was thoughtless of me . Apologies

Edit you original post maybe? :rolleyes:

PhiloCypher

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Feck that was thoughtless of me . Apologies

Then edit your post and add them in!!!

yourdeadwright

The story was awful, just simply awful , It was  really really bad, no idea how it even got the green light,
BUT I really enjoyed the movie because of the main characters there brilliant, such a shame the story was crap

PTH2009

Saw it really enjoyed it but a bit too long

Question Is Ego more powerful than Thanos ???

flazio

PTH2009 wrote: »

Saw it really enjoyed it but a bit too long

Question Is Ego more powerful than Thanos ???

Not anymore

derm0j073

Got to see this today and I enjoyed it but not as much as Vol 1 . It starts and ends well but it falls a little flat in the second act , I also felt that the sound track wasn't quite up to scratch . Still some good laughs in there..

I'm Mary Poppins Y'all .

TerrorFirmer

Thought it was a good movie overall, very entertaining though a step below the first one and it sort of lost me in the final act - another overly long, cliche, and entirely bland showdown completely driven by CGI which was kinda disappointing. Still though, well worth a watch.

I can't believe how good Batista is as Drax. He's comedy gold, I think almost all of the genuine belly laughs are from his lines.

Avatar MIA

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I can't believe how good Batista is as Drax. He's comedy gold, I think almost all of the genuine belly laughs are from his lines.

Agreed. I was expecting him to say to Mantis you're beautiful, it looked like that's what he was going to say, but wasn't expecting the follow up with a deadpan 'On the inside'.

PTH2009

flazio wrote: »

Not anymore

Thanos of been one of his children ???

its werid that EGO him had relations with big ugly space monsters from other planets just too take control of there speices

constitutionus

went with the brother on monday and had a great time.

ok its NOT as good as the first, but in fairness its almost like a different beast. Vol 2 is a far more character focused affair with the action stuff in the backround almost just tacked on for the meaty goodness of seeing characters like yondu and starlord come to terms with where they come from and what theyve done with their lives.

theres some suprisingly strong emotional beats in this. particularly with starlord and ego when they finally have it out and i gotta say this is the best thing kurt russels done in ages.

he actually seems to be enjoying himself and brings a bit of the aul snake plisken / jack burton era kurt to the screen again. certainly he's more fun here than the Fast and Furious flims.

its looks gorgeous . seriously kudos to the design lads as its unique in its portrayal of a sci/fi universe.

i DO thinks its too long though and i agree the music was intrusive at times in its "knowing" nods from the director.

but everyone does get decent screen time, which is some feat considering how many are on screen. drax is hilarous and a revelation on batistas comdey chops- i seriously hope the guy gets offers to be more than muscle in fliks in the future as like helmsworth in thor he's got the gift for it.

and they even got a face on a planet to not look stupid.

7/10 from me.

lacking something to make it truely fantastic, but STILL a damn good day out. and i LOVED the credits, it was like something out of trashy 80s low budget sci/fi at the end with all the different fonts and styles.

constitutionus

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

We get all MCU movies a week in advance of the states. I don't really know why but it's all of them, which is class. Maybe to help drum up more excitement for the home market or something...?

im convinced theyre using us as a test market for the US roll out. particularly now with social media and all the data they can get from that.

if its deemed a hit, they roll it out to more screens, a flop- they dont or cut back to halt their losses . us and the UK seem to be a microcosm for all the demograpics they like.

that and the fact were pirate central. last thing they want is to have no one turn up for their film cause Europeans pirated the bollocks out of it cause they decided to make us wait TWO months for a release (hello Xmen 1 )

brianregan09

Does anyone else think there was some sort of deal done with Fox because of the appearance of the Watchers ? I would have thought they'd be part of the Fantastic Four Rights

Penn

brianregan09 wrote: »

Does anyone else think there was some sort of deal done with Fox because of the appearance of the Watchers ? I would have thought they'd be part of the Fantastic Four Rights

They definitely had to do a deal to use Ego, as that belonged to Fox too. But Fox needed to get permission from Marvel to change Negasonic Teenage Warhead's powers or something for Deadpool, so they traded for it. Maybe the rights to the Watchers was included in the deal.

Nervous Wreck

Penn wrote: »

They definitely had to do a deal to use Ego, as that belonged to Fox too. But Fox needed to get permission from Marvel to change Negasonic Teenage Warhead's powers or something for Deadpool, so they traded for it. Maybe the rights to the Watchers was included in the deal.

I'd say this is what happened yeah. It was very surprising for see them pop up but lots of fun!

constitutionus

Penn wrote: »

They definitely had to do a deal to use Ego, as that belonged to Fox too. But Fox needed to get permission from Marvel to change Negasonic Teenage Warhead's powers or something for Deadpool, so they traded for it. Maybe the rights to the Watchers was included in the deal.

wasnt her powers

basically cannonballs from xforce/the new mutants.
IIRC he was meant to play her role but they wanted more chicks in the flick- hence the change.
fox have them anyway so it doesnt explain the watchers.

my money would be on them spoofing its a random gang of baldies. any mavel fan would KNOW its them but nothing was ever actually stated .

as for ego, he was in Thors comic first so i reckon thats their defence there.

OU812

Just in from this, damn it was bad. Really disappointed in it, absolutely loved the first, but this was a total mess.

Penn

constitutionus wrote: »

wasnt her powers

basically cannonballs from xforce/the new mutants.
IIRC he was meant to play her role but they wanted more chicks in the flick- hence the change.
fox have them anyway so it doesnt explain the watchers.

my money would be on them spoofing its a random gang of baldies. any mavel fan would KNOW its them but nothing was ever actually stated .

as for ego, he was in Thors comic first so i reckon thats their defence there.

That's what I mean, they wanted to change the powers she uses in the films and had to get permission from Marvel to do so, so they traded the rights to Ego for it. I read that James Gunn actually thought Marvel had the rights to Ego when he wrote the script and only found out afterwards they didn't. Marvel did the deal with Fox because they felt the GOTG2 story he'd written wouldn't work changing it to a different character and the whole thing would have had to have been rewritten.

As for The Watchers, if they didn't have the rights to them they wouldn't have shown them. Can't spoof it as even the hint that it could be The Watchers would result in a lawsuit against them if Fox owned the rights. Marvel wouldn't have risked that for what is essentially an Easter egg. If any Marvel fan would know it's the Watchers, that's a breach of the film rights. Marvel can't even use the word mutant and had to call Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver "enhanced" instead.

dreamers75

Speaking of those lads, there was meant to be 5 end scenes only 4 at the version I seen.

brianregan09

Which ones did you see ?? Spoiler tag them obviously

dreamers75

lad playing with the arrow, Stallone teaming up with someone, Watchers, Teenage Groot,

nm I am a spa and cant count

Adam

i somehow thought the 1st was part of the movie as it was so quick.

silverharp

constitutionus wrote: »

im convinced theyre using us as a test market for the US roll out. particularly now with social media and all the data they can get from that.

if its deemed a hit, they roll it out to more screens, a flop- they dont or cut back to halt their losses . us and the UK seem to be a microcosm for all the demograpics they like.

that and the fact were pirate central. last thing they want is to have no one turn up for their film cause Europeans pirated the bollocks out of it cause they decided to make us wait TWO months for a release (hello Xmen 1 )

the youtube channel Midnight's edge did a video on this. the testing can be a thing, his video mentioned that for this movie in particular that most European countries were having a Mayday bank holiday so it would be a big movie weekend and that European distributors have a say when a movie is to be released.

BMMachine

man I loved the bit when

the baby tree did a dance. I thought it would only dance at the start but then it didnt and it did jokes during the film and it was a baby tree with a face and i laughed and tbh thats enough for me because something did a thing and Chris Pratt was good because he said numerous things about the 1980s all of which I get but I was also like "lets thank god he didnt bring up a Boney M or Jaws reference cos thats exactly 7 years out of date"

but yeah i lolled and then there was 4 scenes of credits things and I felt in no way like this is Mrs Browns Boys because thats an awful show where it is blunt and stupid and clearly a money spinner and Im above that. I have taste

pjohnson

BMMachine wrote: »

man I loved the bit when

the baby tree did a dance. I thought it would only dance at the start but then it didnt and it did jokes during the film and it was a baby tree with a face and i laughed and tbh thats enough for me because something did a thing and Chris Pratt was good because he said numerous things about the 1980s all of which I get but I was also like "lets thank god he didnt bring up a Boney M or Jaws reference cos thats exactly 7 years out of date"

but yeah i lolled and then there was 4 scenes of credits things and I felt in no way like this is Mrs Browns Boys because thats an awful show where it is blunt and stupid and clearly a money spinner and Im above that. I have taste

I still get the feeling you'll be one of the first to watch vol 3 so ya can start having a good whinge. This is almost identical to the vol 2 "review" you posted months ago in the Logan thread. Will you be using the same review for vol 3?

Optimalprimerib

BMMachine wrote: »

man I loved the bit when

the baby tree did a dance. I thought it would only dance at the start but then it didnt and it did jokes during the film and it was a baby tree with a face and i laughed and tbh thats enough for me because something did a thing and Chris Pratt was good because he said numerous things about the 1980s all of which I get but I was also like "lets thank god he didnt bring up a Boney M or Jaws reference cos thats exactly 7 years out of date"

but yeah i lolled and then there was 4 scenes of credits things and I felt in no way like this is Mrs Browns Boys because thats an awful show where it is blunt and stupid and clearly a money spinner and Im above that. I have taste

You are so much more intelligent than the rest of us, that is what sickens me the most.

pjohnson

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

You are so much more intelligent than the rest of us, that is what sickens me the most.

Well he just showed he can't count to five and gets stuck at 4 (or he hasnt watched the film at all and is just copying what he reads online). I think hes displayed his full intelligence quite well.

thebostoncrab

BMMachine wrote: »

man I loved the bit when

the baby tree did a dance. I thought it would only dance at the start but then it didnt and it did jokes during the film and it was a baby tree with a face and i laughed and tbh thats enough for me because something did a thing and Chris Pratt was good because he said numerous things about the 1980s all of which I get but I was also like "lets thank god he didnt bring up a Boney M or Jaws reference cos thats exactly 7 years out of date"

but yeah i lolled and then there was 4 scenes of credits things and I felt in no way like this is Mrs Browns Boys because thats an awful show where it is blunt and stupid and clearly a money spinner and Im above that. I have taste

In all seriousness, are you just going to ignore the many posts a few pages back challenging your comments about this film and the people who enjoyed it? From your Logan review it seemed like you made up your mind about Guardians before even seeing it, so it boggles the mind as to why you bothered watching it in the first place.