Should LVG keep his job?

NoviGlitzko

Man United fans, what are your thought's on LVG and should the board keep him in the job, or is the board more to blame?

Are you asking if he's done?

Nalz

No

personally i think he's two defeats away from sack\walking

or the FA Cup game tonight should it not go his way

NoviGlitzko

No

Poll should have been posted with the thread, but boards went AWOL on me again. Should be sorted soon.

bucketybuck

No

Results and performance dictate that he should have been sacked months ago. By almost any metric you can think off he is doing a rubbish job that would have seen him gone long ago at any other club.

Manchester United currently have a shot on goal about once every two games, its almost an achievement to have ****ed things up that badly.

Lord TSC

No

Poll added now

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

The no vote will obviously be skewed by opposition fans voting to keep him so it's completely pointless adding a poll.

glued

United fans will vote yes, non-United fans will vote no for the lols and we'll end up in a United-Liverpool debate largely focusing on which club is less sh1t atm [\thread]

NoviGlitzko

No

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

The no vote will obviously be skewed by opposition fans voting to keep him so it's completely pointless adding a poll.

Indeed, but at least it's public so we can see who the United fans are and who are not.

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

The answer is quite obviously no he shouldn't, it's a results business and he's not getting them over halfway through his second season but he may well see out the season due to who may be available then that isn't available now.

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

I'm after voting wrongly. The thread title and the poll title are the complete opposite.

keeponhurling

His reign has been very disappointing.

The only reason he is still there must be that United are very keen to avoid another sacking and become "a sacking club"

DrumSteve

No

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

I'm after voting wrongly. The thread title and the poll title are the complete opposite.

Yeah same here.

Keep him there,though I actually think the chap is a good manager.

They should have brought him in before Moyes oddly enough.

Not Sure/Other

He should stay. Maybe even a contract extension!

Julez

Not Sure/Other

Crap, I clicked 'No' by accident. I meant to say 'Yes'.

weisses

He should stay to the end of the season

homerjay2005

Not Sure/Other

if opposition fans had his way, he would get a 5 year extension.

the poll is completely worthless.

Edit, i actually voted no, i meant yes - the title and vote is mixed up.

alchemist33

No

United fan here. He should have been sacked over a month ago. There is no sign of improvement whatsoever; in fact it's the opposite. I don't mind a defensive style of play (unlike what appears to be the outside perception of most United fans) when it's effective but we've been nothing short of shyte for months and he has no answers.

bucketybuck

No

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the poll is completely worthless.

Not least because it couldn't have been better designed to obfuscate the question asked.

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

Get rid of the poll or change the thread title. It's a mess.

homerjay2005

Not Sure/Other

bucketybuck wrote: »

Not least because it couldn't have been better designed to obfuscate the question asked.

i just realised i answered it wrong. you can be sure that any opposition fan saying yes actually meant to say no.

ArmaniJeanss

Very confusing question/title/poll, makes it difficult for me to give the trolling answer.

Nalz

No

Lord TSC wrote: »

Poll added now

MIght wanna change the name of the thread now that the poll question is the opposite

Maximus Alexander

Other: Yes he should be sacked, but not until summer because Pep isn't available until then.

RobertKK

No if United have a plan and are getting Guardiola.
Yes if they have no plan.

It is impossible to answer this question, he should be gone by now, so there must be some reason why he isn't.

7 points off 2nd place, it is due to the play being so bad to watch that it looks even worse than it is. But the thought of watching United play under LVG makes me want a change.

topmanamillion

Not Sure/Other

I think United have bought an awful lot of flops and rubbish. The likes of Rooney has seen his best days, De Gea will probably be gone in the summer when Madrid come back. Then you have to wonder would Depay, Darmain, Smalling, Scweinsteiger et al get within an asses roar of a regular spot at a top European club. I highly doubt it.
So that's where United are at. A lot of money spent and struggling to stay in the top 4 in a poor EPL.
I don't know how any new manager goes about sorting that and your probably looking at a 3 year project and spending a couple of £100 million every transfer window to do it.

Boskowski

I agree it doesn't look pretty but people need to get perspective. United are 5th with a squad assembled relatively recently from all 4 corners of the planet. It's not like they're batlling relegation.

Media are a disgrace I have to side with him. A lot of fans should stay classy too. Expectations are unrealistic imo.

And getting a new manager and shipping 6 new players isn't going to improve things anyway. United need things to slow down and continuity.

Harry Palmr

With LFC hat on he should stay, with sensible football hat on he should go and be allowed to! The current 'neither here nor there' environment he and his players are inhabiting is ludicrous and inhibiting

Maximus Alexander

Boskowski wrote: »

I agree it doesn't look pretty but people need to get perspective. United are 5th with a squad assembled relatively recently from all 4 corners of the planet. It's not like they're batlling relegation.

Media are a disgrace I have to side with him. A lot of fans should stay classy too. Expectations are unrealistic imo.

And getting a new manager and shipping 6 new players isn't going to improve things anyway. United need things to slow down and continuity.

Ah come on, there's plenty of fans going over the edge, but there's always been plenty of mad people out there. But it's not surprising that unrest in general has been on the rise. The results are one thing, and I think you'd have a lot of people willing to stomach that if there was progress, but the play is quite another. The football has been boring, repetitive, ineffective, and there has been no sign of improvement over 18 months - they've gone backwards if anything. Couple the two, and it's completely justifiable that people want him out.

Expectations of one of the richest clubs in the world being comfortably in the top 4 and playing palatable football are not unrealistic. At all.

Iused2likebusts

He should be sacked he has them.playing awful football with the resources he has. It was only a matter of time before the results turned as even earlier in the season they were creating very few chances per game. He also made a big mistake going with such a small squad considering they were back in Europe. They were always only a few injuries away from being in trouble .Ferguson was the master of keeping a big squad happy and giving the fringe players enough game time to keep them motivated.

brevity

If Mourinho is available and wants to join its a no brainer IMO. Despite the baggage that he brings.

stesaurus

Not Sure/Other

Stupid poll, clicked wrong

SuperTortoise

Ideally, Yes.

I say give him another 300m and a new contract to squash any rumours surrounding his job!
If he does go, then ideally i'd like to see Giggs get the gig, that should finish them off!

blueser

Harry Palmr wrote: »

With LFC hat on he should stay, with sensible football hat on he should go and be allowed to! The current 'neither here nor there' environment he and his players are inhabiting is ludicrous and inhibiting

I'm with you; he should definitely be kept on as manager. He's doing a fantastic job.

However; come next august, I think you might see a Portugese gentleman in the manager's seat there. I was going to add, especially if they miss out on the CL. But I think there may well be a change even if they finished in the top 4. The style of football is absolutely atrocious, and has led to LVG losing a large section of the fans. Once they turn against you, there's usually only one outcome.

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

brevity wrote: »

If Mourinho is available and wants to join its a no brainer IMO. Despite the baggage that he brings.

Mourinho leaves a mess wherever he goes. I sort of came around to the idea of him coming in over Christmas but I'm back firmly in the no to Jose camp.

Canadel

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ah come on, there's plenty of fans going over the edge, but there's always been plenty of mad people out there. But it's not surprising that unrest in general has been on the rise. The results are one thing, and I think you'd have a lot of people willing to stomach that if there was progress, but the play is quite another. The football has been boring, repetitive, ineffective, and there has been no sign of improvement over 18 months - they've gone backwards if anything. Couple the two, and it's completely justifiable that people want him out.

Expectations of one of the richest clubs in the world being comfortably in the top 4 and playing palatable football are not unrealistic. At all.

Excellent summation of events.

The only thing I'd add is the inexcusable decision to force Welbeck out of the club by bringing in a finished mercenary in Falcao. Even after that I was still willing to put my faith in Van Gaal, but that he has proved himself incapable of building a team or producing anyway decent football since then, makes it all the more deflating.

It's getting to the stage where I'd take Tim Sherwood till the end of the season. Yes, I said it.

Flint Fredstone

Not Sure/Other

Canadel wrote: »

Excellent summation of events.

The only thing I'd add is the inexcusable decision to force Welbeck out of the club by bringing in a finished mercenary in Falcao. Even after that I was still willing to put my faith in Van Gaal, but that he has proved himself incapable of building a team or producing anyway decent football since then, makes it all the more deflating.

It's getting to the stage where I'd take Tim Sherwood till the end of the season. Yes, I said it.

Still banging that Welbeck drum? Hats off for the persistence anyway.

dfx-

There seems to be no plan or idea at United these days other than getting the biggest name.

Really they need a coherent plan long before sacking or appointing someone. Why LVG? Was LVG a stop gap for Giggs? Why Giggs? Why Mourinho? Was there any plan for what happens if Van Gaal was to fail in the meantime? There doesn't appear to have been, they're drifting along.

Liam McPoyle

No

Canadel wrote: »

Excellent summation of events.

The only thing I'd add is the inexcusable decision to force Welbeck out of the club by bringing in a finished mercenary in Falcao. Even after that I was still willing to put my faith in Van Gaal, but that he has proved himself incapable of building a team or producing anyway decent football since then, makes it all the more deflating.

It's getting to the stage where I'd take Tim Sherwood till the end of the season. Yes, I said it.

Would ya feck off with the Wellbeck nonsense.

Yer as bad as bangkok and his Fellaini obsession.

Mr.Nice Guy

Not Sure/Other

Bah, I clicked the wrong option. I meant to say no, he shouldn't keep his job.

I feel he will remain until the end of the season but I fear that will lead to United finishing outside the top four.

blueser

Canadel wrote: »

Excellent summation of events.

The only thing I'd add is the inexcusable decision to force Welbeck out of the club by bringing in a finished mercenary in Falcao. Even after that I was still willing to put my faith in Van Gaal, but that he has proved himself incapable of building a team or producing anyway decent football since then, makes it all the more deflating.

It's getting to the stage where I'd take Tim Sherwood till the end of the season. Yes, I said it.

Behave. Things aren't that bad over at OT, surely?
:eek:

adox

Thread title: Should LVG keep his job?
Poll in thread:Should LVG be sacked?


Hmmmm.........

Drumpot

Not Sure/Other

Where's the Woodward thread? I'm more concerned with his performance then LVG.

Contrary to belief, managers don't just pick and choose most players they want to sign like in football manager. The club scouts players and picks out targets.

People love blaming Moyes and LVG for uniteds arrivals. Of course they agreed to them but that's not to say they were players they wanted. I'm not convinced moyes wanted mata and I'm not convinced LVG chose half the players bought under his tenure.

Put in any manager into United, what exact kind of football would people expect? Ok, it might be more entertaining then LVG but anymore successful? I'm not convinced.

The only thing consistent with the 300mil spent on transfers is Woodward and the glazers actually having to run things. Gill and Ferguson made their jobs easy.

My biggest fear is that the owners and by extension Woodward are simply out of their depth. They don't know how to run a football club outside of marketing and whoring it to anybody who will listen.

The main thing they have going for them is funds to buy their way out of trouble.

niallo27

No

I said yes just to confuse everyone.

recylingbin

No

I fully support Louis van gaal in his position as manager of Manchester united football club.

Boskowski

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ah come on, there's plenty of fans going over the edge, but there's always been plenty of mad people out there. But it's not surprising that unrest in general has been on the rise. The results are one thing, and I think you'd have a lot of people willing to stomach that if there was progress, but the play is quite another. The football has been boring, repetitive, ineffective, and there has been no sign of improvement over 18 months - they've gone backwards if anything. Couple the two, and it's completely justifiable that people want him out.

Expectations of one of the richest clubs in the world being comfortably in the top 4 and playing palatable football are not unrealistic. At all.

Didn't realise he was with United this long. Time flies, ugh. If anyone had asked me I would have said this is his first season from the start and this isn't his team really. Fair enough.

Still think the media are a bit like vultures though.

Maximus Alexander

Boskowski wrote: »

Didn't realise he was with United this long. Time flies, ugh. If anyone had asked me I would have said this is his first season from the start and this isn't his team really. Fair enough.

Still think the media are a bit like vultures though.

Just to put things in perspective, this is his 4th transfer window. He's signed 12 players of consequence and released 18, this is excluding youths or players who never got into the team. It's very much his team.