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1916 Commemoration -Fingal Brigade

  • 29-01-2016 11:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭


    With 1916 ,the rising being commemorated,it is only proper we remember our own hero's of the rising here in Fingal.
    A relative of mine gave this account ...http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0142.pdf

    There is also an old thread started by Corsendonk in 2011 here which I did't revive because of the time lapse,but which non the less is excellent. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056177665

    Fingal Brigade - Irish Volunteers - 1916 Battle of Ashbourne -Roll of Honour

    The following is a list of Volunteers who were involved in the fighting at Ashbourne County Meath.

    Commandant Thomas Ashe
    Richard Aungier
    Peadar Blanchfield
    Thomas Blanchfield
    Paddy Brogan
    James Connor
    John Crenigan, known as Jack, aged 21. Killed in Action. Was employed by the Dublin Tram Company.
    John Devine
    Francis Daly
    Paddy Doyle
    Richard Duke
    Thomas Duke
    Walter Farrelly
    Michael Fleming
    Jerry Golden
    Jack Gowan
    Paddy Grant
    Dr Richard Hayes medical officer. He had been the Officer Commanding resigned in favour of Ashe. Became a TD (Teachta Dála Member of the Irish Parliament).
    Paddy Houlihan or Holohan
    James Kelly
    Matthew Kelly
    Edmund Kent
    Colm Lawless
    Frank Lawless, Quarter-Master later became a TD.
    Jim Lawless Captain.
    Joseph Lawless
    Bennie McAllister
    John McAllister
    Michael McAllister
    John McCann
    James McArdle
    Patrick McArdle
    Tom Maxwell
    Richard Mulcahy, Vice-Commandant. Initially posted at the G.P.O. Connolly sent him to Howth to cut the undersea telephone wires between Dublin and London, unable to return to Dublin he went to Ashbourne where Ashe appointed him Vice-Commandant. He succeeded Michael Collins as Commander in Chief of the Free State Army.
    Éamonn Murphy
    William Norton
    Christy Nugent
    James O’Connor
    Arthur O’Reilly
    Jack Rafferty
    Thomas Reilly
    Edward Rooney Captain
    James Rooney
    Paddy Sheehan
    Ned Stafford
    Joe Taylor
    Nicholas Teeling
    Joe Thornton
    William Walsh
    Bartle Weston
    Charles Weston

    Three women also took part in the battle acting as messengers and attending the wounded.

    Molly Adrian, messenger.
    Monica Fleming
    Eileen Lawless

    Some useful links http://irishmedals.org/fingal-volunteers.html

    http://www.rollofhonourirl.com/info.php

    http://www.swords-dublin.com/richard-coleman.html

    http://mspcsearch.militaryarchives.ie/

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=fingal+brigade+old+ira&rlz=1C2ASRM_enIE569IE569&biw=1120&bih=617&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUsaif9s7KAhWLmh4KHTQZB4IQsAQITA&dpr=1.5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    It's worth popping into Swords Museum, Carnegie Free Library, North St, Swords some afternoon for a chat with Bernadette Marks. She has a wealth of information on these brave volunteers and various other matters Fingal historical!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Cumman na mban's Fingal brigade also played a huge part in the rising and later events.
    It is also right and proper that these extremely brave women be remembered not only for their role in the rising but in establishing some of the first root's of women's emancipation in the country in the years following the rising and beyond.

    Some really useful links detailing these brave women from Fingal,and their role in the rising.

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=cumman+na+mban+fingal+1916&sa=N&rlz=1C2ASRM_enIE569IE569&biw=1120&bih=617&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ved=0ahUKEwjki4jpstHKAhXDog4KHW-RAIU4ChCwBAg6&dpr=1.5

    http://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/lifestyle/women-of-fingal-who-played-their-part-in-1916-27770149.html

    http://www.ireland.ie/events/fingal-1916-centenary-exhibition

    https://www.facebook.com/www.1916uprising.ie/posts/937344163006617

    http://mspcsearch.militaryarchives.ie/docs/files//PDF_Membership/9/MA-MSPC-CMB-124.pdf

    http://mspcsearch.militaryarchives.ie/detail.aspx?parentpriref=


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    As Fingal County Council unveiled many of the projects that it will support with funding for the county's 1916 centenary commemoration, it told local groups there is still time to apply to the 'Centenary Fund' for backing for centenary-related projects and events.

    Full story in this week's Fingal Independent ...http://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/1916-centenary-funding-unveiled-34474593.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Originally posted by The Scientician --- It's worth popping into Swords Museum, Carnegie Free Library, North St, Swords some afternoon for a chat with Bernadette Marks. She has a wealth of information on these brave volunteers and various other matters Fingal historical!
    I stopped off at the old Carnegie library,but found it is now home to Swords Boxing club.
    I googled Swords museum and got ...http://www.swordsheritage.com/ ... no address on the site for it's location,but haven't had a chance to look at the site properly yet,the site looks very interesting I have to say ,will have a read and let ye know.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    The museum is upstairs in the Carnegie library. It's only open on weekday afternoons, afaik.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    The final last letters before death ...before being shot at dawn ... they speak for themselves ..

    http://letters1916.maynoothuniversity.ie/explore/search/Y2F0ZWdvcnk9MTIs

    The main archive .. Letter's of 1916 ....http://letters1916.maynoothuniversity.ie/explore/browse/all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Fingal Easter 1916 Commemoration ... Battle of Ashbourne ... the 5th battalion (Fingal Brigade) of the Irish Volunteers .

    Synchronised wreath-laying ceremonies will be held at 1.15pm – the time that the first shots of the 1916 Rising were fired. These will take place in Ashbourne, Athenry, Cork City and Enniscorthy.

    A re enactment of the battle of Ashbourne and a wreath laying ceremony will take place on Easter Monday, March 28th, 2016. The event includes a re-enactment of the Battle of Ashbourne which commences at 10.45am and a State ceremonial event commencing at 12.15pm to commemorate the centenary of the Battle. Two wreaths, presented by the Defence Forces, will be laid at the Monument at Rath Cross at 1.15pm. The event also includes the unveiling of a memorial plaque.
    Meath County Council is accepting expressions of interest from members of the public who would like to attend the State Ceremonial event. The re-enactment event is by ticket only and this is now fully booked.
    Due to the layout of the location at Rath Cross, numbers are limited - standing room only. Admittance is by ticket only. The total expected duration of the event is 3 hours.
    The other big ceremony for Fingal will be on Sunday, April 24th, the chronological start of the Rising. There will be a a parade, bands, re-enactments and the launch of a public arts project in Swords Castle.

    Some use full link's ...http://www.irishtimes.com/1916

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/fingal-to-remember-battle-of-ashbourne-as-part-of-rising-events-1.2548495

    http://www.fingal.ie/media/Fingal%202016%20Centenary%20Programme.pdfhttp

    http://www.ireland.ie/events/state-ceremonial-events-around-country

    http://www.ireland.ie/events/fingal-1916-centenary-commemorative-day

    http://www.ireland.ie/fingal

    Transport ...http://www.transportforireland.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Very interesting and informative thread here ...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056785206 on the Rising.

    It has picture's and information on the gunboat Helga which shelled the GPO ,but later was renamed the Muirchú https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_patrol_vessel_Muirch%C3%BA ... by the new Irish state.

    And a detailed map showing the damage to the city centre ....http://www.swilson.info/maps/1916map.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    A statement given by Lieut Joe Lawless ,5 brigade Fingal Irish Volunteers .

    Some years ago (in 1925, to he precise) I compiled the
    following list of the names of those Fingallians who marched into
    the G.P.O. from Finglas Camp on Tuesday, 25th April 1916:

    Captain Richard Coleman, Swords.
    Dan Brophy, Swords Edward Lawless, Rathbeal
    James Crennigan, Roganstown. James Wilson, Balheary
    Wm. (Beck) Wilson, Balheary. Joe Norton, Mt.
    Thomas Peposrd, Lusk John Clarke, Lusk
    Jack Hynes, Lusk. Paik. Caddell, Lusk
    Dick Kelly, Corduff. Patk. Kelly, Corduff.
    Peter Wilson, Balheary Wm. (Cooty) Wilson, Swords.
    Jack Kelly, Swords James Marks, Swords.
    John McNally, Lusk Wm. Meehan, Lusk.
    Wm. Doyle, Swords.

    Of these men, one, William Wilson of Swords, (nicknamed
    Cooty), was killed in the defence of The Mendicity Institute,
    62.
    where some of than were sent to reinforce the garrison under
    Sean Heuston. The remainder formed part of the garris one
    of Kelly's shop at the corner of Bachelors Walk and the
    Metropole Hotel.

    Taken from an account given by Lieut Joe Lawless ,5 brigade Fingal Irish Volunteers

    http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS1043.pdf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Let me Carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord

    by Thomas Ashe



    Let me carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord
    The hour of her trial draws near,
    And the pangs and the pains of the sacrifice
    May be borne by comrades dear.

    But, Lord, take me from the offering throng,
    There are many far less prepared,
    Through anxious and all as they are to die
    That Ireland may be spared.

    Let me carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord
    My cares in this world are few.
    And few are the tears will for me fall
    When I go on my way to You.

    Spare. Oh! Spare to their loved ones dear
    The brother and son and sire.
    That the cause we love may never die
    In the land of our Heart's desire!

    Let me carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord!
    Let me suffer the pain and shame
    I bow my head to their rage and hate,
    And I take on myself the blame.
    Let them do with my body whate'er they will,
    My spirit I offer to You.
    That the faithful few who heard her call
    May be spared to Roisin Dubh.

    Let me carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord!
    For Ireland weak with tears,
    For the aged man of the clouded brow,
    And the child of tender years;
    For the empty homes of her golden plains;
    For the hopes of her future, Too!
    Let me carry your Cross for Ireland, Lord!
    for the cause of Roisin Dubh.

    From Corduff N.S ...http://corduffns.scoilnet.ie/ourschool/lusk%20history/thomas_ashe_poem.html

    http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=SamuelsBox4_001


    Commandant Thomas Ashe ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Its amazing what you come across, I was reading the revolution papers issue 10 about Thomas Ashe ..I'm not a man given to poetry but after hearing part of that poem(above) on an RTE trailer for 1916 ,I had to post it.
    Anyway I digress,tucked in the back of issue 10 was an article about a compensation claim made about the Skerries boat a schooner the Kangaroo,sunk by a German U Boat 20 miles of south of Tuskar Rock on june 18th 1917.
    The widow of John Adams,Annie of great strand street and the widow Catherine and daughter Jane Mary of Luke Carr ,Church st Skerries.
    The sum of 300 pounds had been lodged in court at Green Street,the court was adjourned ,so there was no mention of the level of compensation paid or not.
    There was also Capt James Mansfield of Strand St and able seaman John Ryan an only son of Cross St.
    Anyway a very sad story of 4 lives lost at sea amid a great war,lost in the pages of time,but a part of our local history,all the more because I have passed the memorial at Red Island countless times without reading the plaque.
    The Skerries Sea Pole Memorial remembers and honours 271 men and ships connected with the Skerries port who have no grave but the sea.
    They say ye live and learn ..it's true ..a full account is here ...http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=117837778


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    I ,like many of you will know about Balbriggan been burnt to the ground (part's of it)by the black and tan's in 1920(I know not exactly 1916).
    But I came across an account by Micheal Rock of North Main St ,Sword's ... an excerpt of which is below,of how Balbriggan came to be burnt in the first place.
    Also the name's of volunteer's that give their name to area's we now all know around us.

    .....................................................................................

    On 20th September 1920, I went into Balbriggan to meet
    Derham to fix up the details of paying expenses and so forth
    in connection with the sports meeting. Derham and I were in
    a publichouse opposite Derham's. William Corcoran came in
    and informed me that there was a crowd of Black and Tans in
    another publichouse in the town who were acting in a very
    12.
    rowdy manner. I had no gun, but Corcoran got me one and also
    one for himself, and he came with me. We went to the back
    door of the publichouse where the Tans were and, with the
    guns in our hands, entered and ordered them to clear out.
    Amongst tile party of Tans who were seemingly unarmed, but who
    we knew always carried some type of small arms, were two
    Head Constables -
    two brothers named Burke from Kerry.
    As we entered we could see that the Tans had hold of a man
    named Monks, and some other civilians who had been drinking
    in the pub. When I ordered them to clear out, instead of
    doing so, they made a rush at me and I had no option but to
    fire. I shot one of the Head Constables dead and wounded
    the other, who later recovered, and then my pal and I cleared
    out the back door and got safely away. The Derhams, Lawless,
    Gibbons and others were warned not to stay at home that night.
    The Tans came back in force to Balbriggan that night
    and looted and burned the town. They burned some thirty
    houses including woollen factory. They took out Lawless
    and Gibbons who had remained in their homes despite the
    warning they had got, and shot the two dead. An ex-British
    army soldier, who went by the name of Jack Straw - which was
    not his real name, guided the Tans around the town and
    pointed out to them the houses to burn. Straw was not a
    native of the area. He was subsequently arrested by us for
    the part he played that night, and was duly executed.
    Dr. Fulham of Balbriggan was able to dissuade the Tans
    from burning several other houses in the town.
    The British learned that I was the principal person
    concerned in the shooting affair in the publichouse, and
    they Searched far and wide for me. I was truly on the run
    13.
    now. They had raided ray house several times before that
    incident, but now the murder gang, which had been organised
    inside the camp, visited my home several times.
    Subsequent. to the burning of Balbriggan, the Black and
    Tans went to Skerries and took two Volunteers from their homes
    and shot them dead. One was Volunteer John Sherlock and-the
    other was Volunteer Hand. This was purely an act of blackguardism
    and provocation on the part of the Tans. There was
    no incident whatsoever in Skerries that would have given the
    Tans any excuse for this outrage.
    ............................................................................................

    I'm not trying to stir old hostilities or any such nonsense,History can only hurt us if we don't learn from it ..I just thought that this personal account of that terrible time in our history was worth mentioning.

    General Robert E Lee said,it's well that war is so terrible,lest we grow too fond of it ... and General William Tecumseh Sherman said "I confess, without shame, that I am sick and tired of fighting — its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands, and fathers ... it is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation."

    opp's forgot the link's ...http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS1398.pdf#page=14

    http://www.cairogang.com/other-people/british/castle-intelligence/thomson/straw/straw.html

    https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiIwoXJhPbLAhXGLg8KHTq-BYkQFgg-MAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpermalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D656218394393756%26id%3D224048917610708&usg=AFQjCNHYEVC_-Ugsqjlvss_v52Mm-HvXrg
    http://visitbalbriggan.com/the-sack-of-balbriggan/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Mearly


    Patrick Joseph Early and Peter Kelly from Swords should also be included in your list of names. Both ended up in Frongoch as a result of their activities in Ashbourne and surrounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Originally posted by Mearly -- Patrick Joseph Early and Peter Kelly from Swords should also be included in your list of names. Both ended up in Frongoch as a result of their activities in Ashbourne and surrounds.
    Welcome to Boards Mearly,I don't think a lot of the lists are complete,I copied the main list here -- http://www.swords-dublin.com/richard-coleman.html ,but if you have any personal information on the 2 members maybe contact Brendan Keenan on the site above or http://irishvolunteers.org/ or as The Scientician sugested above .. Bernadette Marks below in the Swords Museum, Carnegie Free Library, North St, Swords.
    I still haven't managed to get in to the museum yet,but you never stop learning about the Fingal Brigade another account here , http://www.militaryheritage.ie/wepher/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/The_Fingal_Battalion.pdf


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