Sooooo...turns out my new roommate is a flat earther.

iamstop

It's so ridiculous. She watches youtube video all the time about it and fully believes it.
Even when I refute one of the 'arguments' that are on these crazy videos with basic science (I have a science degree) she disregards it and moves on to the next 'proof' that;
there are no satellites (I work for company that makes got-damn satellites ffs!)
We all live in a giant dome
No one s allowed to fly to Antarctica
Stars and planets don't exist
There are pyramids under Antarctica

The list goes on! She even used the fact Rapper B.O.B. was saying this stuff means that is proof. I'm very serious here. Like, what the actual!!!?!

Arghus

Considering that she's an expert on the whole pyramid thing - where does she stand on the whole circular v pyramid tea-bag debate?

NIMAN

Tell her to chat to Bressie.

hairyslug

Any chance your flatmate is Jim Corr but he's wearing a dress

Bongalongherb

I just knew something was drastically wrong when I woke up on the 15th of august 2015. Everything just felt wrong when I awoke, the news sites had some crazy stories and folk around me were talking in tongues so I decided to go back to bed for a sleep. When I awoke later in the afternoon everything I heard and read was nonsensical and just plain crazy. I Really think that I awoke that day in a parallel reality of earth, everything and everyone is now suffering insanity, as a warped society.

Why the fcuk did I even bother to wake up. Now people think the world is flat ? I really give up at this stage. If dumbo thinks the earth is flat then dumbo needs real help. What next ? the moon is just an illusion ?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfHdZrmMAw

Guy:Incognito

Walk her to the edge and push her off.

EDIT: actually, on a more serious note, what is it these people think "the man" gains by lying to us about the earth being flat? From snippets I've seen on various threads here lots of people have to be in on it, airlines etc. Wouldnt it be easier to just say "yeah the earth is flat" and stick a few "mind the edge" signs a few feet back from the drop?

Bongalongherb

Maybe she's just fresh, exciting ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NChc__dH3jA

Looks round to me. Does this person think this is a conspiracy as well ?.

Say roger if it's so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0

ardinn

Well my view of the universe has been completely warped since I started listening to joe rogan so Im of the opinion she could be right - or wrong - and who the fúck are you to tell her your right and she is wrong?

It was people like you who told her the earth WAS UNDENIABLY FLAT years ago!

ardinn

Well my view of the universe has been completely warped since I started listening to joe rogan so Im of the opinion she could be right - or wrong - and who the fúck are you to tell her your right and she is wrong?

It was people like you who told her the earth WAS UNDENIABLY FLAT years ago!

Bongalongherb

To stop the double post just click on 'Post Reply', Don't click 'quick reply' as that will always double post.

Oh, and someone buy that person a telescope.

Is the rule not very simple?

If she's attractive you smile and agree.

If not, you point out how utterly stupid she is.

Optimalprimerib

I want to believe the earth is flat. just for the craic like.

But when the biggest argument to any of the known facts is "yeah but that was faked", it will be a struggle.

Optimalprimerib

I want to believe the earth is flat. just for the craic like.

But when the biggest argument to any of the known facts is "yeah but that was faked", it will be a struggle.

Nolimits

Have you pointed out that it can't be flat, it's not even level? Just show her some mountains or small hills.

Victor

Ask her where the Edge is.

At home in Dalkey is not an acceptable answer.

endacl

Have you considered the tried and trusted technique of not engaging her in conversation, laughing at her every time you see her, and only ever referring to her as 'Our Simpleton'?

PLL

Interesting, I didn't know such a belief system that the Earth is flat existed.

I'm going to watch YouTube videos on the subject now. Conspiracy theories keep me young. The more far fetched the better.

endacl

PLL wrote: »

Interesting, I didn't know such a belief system that the Earth is flat existed.

You probably hadn't come across it because of the rarity of the theory. It's an 'end stage' CT. One has to have, quite literally, believed all of the bullsh1t contained in the more common delusions before becoming susceptible to a dose of flat earth. The mind needs a certain level of tenderising before it will accept it.

Gordy6040

So, just out of interest, is this a religious belief or is she just thick?

Where does she stand on Darwin v creationism?

turnikett1

Isn't that Flat Earth society (the internet forum at least) just a joke? I remember reading that it was set up by someone as a hoax, and people actually started to believe it, or pretended to, to keep up the joke...

turnikett1

turnikett1 wrote: »

Isn't that Flat Earth society (the internet forum at least) just a joke? I remember reading that it was set up by someone as a hoax, and people actually started to believe it, or pretended to, to keep up the joke...

Alas that happens all the time. Take Scientology for example. The creator of it - before creating it - literally told people about inventing false religions in order to make money. Then he did - and people started believing it.

You can probably make up any nonsense you want and someone somewhere will believe it. Look at homeopathy. Magic water!

sbsquarepants

hairyslug wrote: »

Any chance your flatmate is Jim Corr but he's wearing a dress

You mean Andrea?
If it is, tell her I agree and would like to meet to discuss it, naked...... cos they put listening devices in clothes.

Deleted User wrote: »

You can probably make up any nonsense you want and someone somewhere will believe it. Look at homeopathy. Magic water!

You see the thing is, depending on how deeply you look homeopathy works sometimes, as does prayer, faith healers, osteopathy, reiki..... and just ignoring the problem until it goes away.

My girlfriends family are all mad for the osteopath (not her thankfully, but her sister who's an intensive care nurse is, which is slightly worrying:eek:)
You get "poor old annie had an awful flu, couldn't even stand up - she went to the osteopath and a few days later she was right as rain"
I had the same thing, I watched Dr Phil with a cup of tea and a few days later I was right as rain - The miracle worker is your own immune system not some german hippy in a white coat.

You could always insist that it's a sphere...but it's hollow...

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You could always insist that it's a sphere...but it's hollow...

The fight crazy with crazy approach?
I like it.

c_man

Deleted User wrote: »

You could always insist that it's a sphere...but it's hollow...

You're just saying that to deflect from the real truth of the hollow Moon.

Seph503

Enjoy friends :- http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

Warning - Brain must be left behind before entering.

cowboyBuilder

Take her to any large lake - They have horizons, even small lakes you can see the curvature of the earth by looking at a boathouse from the far side, it looks half submerged - but then again that's probably an optical illusion.

Thats the thing with these nutcases, they'll use sciency buzzwords when it suits them, but logic and reason to dispel their argument will be ignored.

Why do you think the creationist movement still exists ?

The J Stands for Jay

Seph503 wrote: »

Enjoy friends :- http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

Warning - Brain must be left behind before entering.

No, we have to show Brian the truth!

whiskeyman

Deleted User wrote: »

Is the rule not very simple?

If she's attractive you smile and agree.

If not, you point out how utterly stupid she is.

Is she flat chested or not is the *real* question...

iDave

This does seem to be gaining traction. The Flat Earth Society has a thriving forum on its site and YouTube videos of such have exploded.
It's pathetic but sadly unsurprising in a world of creationists, climate deniers and anti-vaxxers.

kneemos

Seph503 wrote: »

Enjoy friends :- http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

Warning - Brain must be left behind before entering.

OMG! It's true.

cowboyBuilder

iDave wrote: »

This does seem to be gaining traction. The Flat Earth Society has a thriving forum on its site and YouTube videos of such have exploded.
It's pathetic but sadly unsurprising in a world of creationists, climate deniers and anti-vaxxers.

strange just a few months ago I was talking to my Dad about the flat earth society and how the last member died years ago -- seems they are back with a bang, this is the downside of the net and social media - idiots and idiotic ideas get traction :rolleyes:

Zulu

OP admit it, you failed to successfully prove it to her. tut. tut.

Is your "science degree" a BA? huh, is it??

dr.fuzzenstein

Gordy6040 wrote: »

So, just out of interest, is this a religious belief or is she just thick?

Where does she stand on Darwin v creationism?

Both hokum! Don't you know were are a genetic experiment by aliens. I am being kept up to date on this stuff by my GF, she doesn't care that it is actually physically painful for me to listen to that sh*t. She doesn't believe Earth is flat, but she does believe Earth is hollow and filled with spaceships, the moon is a spaceship, there is an intergalactic war going on above our heads for the last 300 years, Obama is a lizard being, the US has a secret spaceprogram and no one has ever heard about it, there are Stargates buried around the planet and on top of that fairies, unicorns and sitting on top of it all the Arcturians
Her "proof" is that people have been told that stuff in visions or they have a psychic connection directly to those alien races. Funny how there is never any actual evidence, only crazy people who meditate alone at night and are "given" this knowledge.
Can someone please answer me this: How have we made it this far? How are insane people allowed out unsupervised? I just don't get it. Her main argument against me is "but you watch Star Trek! You should know about that stuff!". Yes I do. I know it's FICTION!!!
For anyone who know a flat earther or such like, please print out this handy diagram:

faceman

Here's what you need to do.

1. Go to a music shop that sells music equipment and purchase a microphone

2. Show your flat mate this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bco_p4V7-QU

3. Drop microphone

jony_dols

Sign her up for the one-way trip to Mars. That would both prove a point & hopefully stop her procreating.

kneemos

faceman wrote: »

Here's what you need to do.

1. Go to a music shop that sells music equipment and purchase a microphone

2. Show your flat mate this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bco_p4V7-QU

3. Drop microphone

Switched Islands.

Markcheese

sbsquarepants wrote:

My girlfriends family are all mad for the osteopath (not her thankfully, but her sister who's an intensive care nurse is, which is slightly worrying ) You get "poor old annie had an awful flu, couldn't even stand up - she went to the osteopath and a few days later she was right as rain" I had the same thing, I watched Dr Phil with a cup of tea and a few days later I was right as rain - The miracle worker is your own immune system not some german hippy in a white coat.

Isnt osteopathy somewhere between a massage and a chiropractor? Nothing magic about that.... having said that ,I think the idea behind homeopathy is bunk but it seems to have an effect on me-long live placebo effect

OldGoat

Feck with her head by telling that the Ruling Elite really WANT you to believe the world is flat.
Round Earth propaganda is spread by Big Aero who are subtly trying to scare you out of using cruse ships for holidays and use their ever growing aeroplanes instead.
They dump chemicals in their exhaust to create 'clouds' to mask the horizon so that they can claim no horizon equates to flat earth. When the sheeple believe that the earth is flat they won't go anywhere near a cruse ship for fear of toppling over and will turn to Big Aero instead.

Naturally the gubberment and their oil buddies, Big Petro want you to follow this line of thought cos aero fuel prices generate more monies that ship diesel.

What's is the best way to get most people thinking that way? Tell'em the truth and they will instantly disbelieve you hence you fall into their insidious trap.

They WANT you to believe the Round Earth is a conspiracy and that Flat Earth is real so they play the double bluff and tell you the flat earth is actually a conspiracy theory but we all know better.

It's a double bluff, the sneaky feckers.

seamus

Markcheese wrote: »

Isnt osteopathy somewhere between a massage and a chiropractor?

Which makes it even worse considering that chiropractic is nonsense bullsh1t too.

razorblunt

It would be handy if your OH was a person who believed in a Flat Earth;
"oh you want to go to Oz? Well we can't, because see here it says 'here there be monsters'"

mrkiscool2

ardinn wrote: »

Well my view of the universe has been completely warped since I started listening to joe rogan so Im of the opinion she could be right - or wrong - and who the fúck are you to tell her your right and she is wrong?

It was people like you who told her the earth WAS UNDENIABLY FLAT years ago!

WHAT? This makes no sense. Science isn't an ideology, we know the Earth isn't flat because we can observe it from space, we know it's not flat because satellites orbit it, we know it's not flat because of gravity, there are a ton of physical, gravitational and visual proofs to show the Earth isn't flat. People like us (science students/lovers/graduates) aren't like the people in charge then (AKA religion, an ideology that has a dogma and refuses to accept facts) in any sense.

kneemos

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

WHAT? This makes no sense. Science isn't an ideology, we know the Earth isn't flat because we can observe it from space, we know it's not flat because satellites orbit it, we know it's not flat because of gravity, there are a ton of physical, gravitational and visual proofs to show the Earth isn't flat. People like us (science students/lovers/graduates) aren't like the people in charge then (AKA religion, an ideology that has a dogma and refuses to accept facts) in any sense.

Not.
Another.
Sensible.
Argument.

seamus

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

WHAT? This makes no sense. Science isn't an ideology, we know the Earth isn't flat because we can observe it from space, we know it's not flat because satellites orbit it, we know it's not flat because of gravity, there are a ton of physical, gravitational and visual proofs to show the Earth isn't flat. People like us (science students/lovers/graduates) aren't like the people in charge then (AKA religion, an ideology that has a dogma and refuses to accept facts) in any sense.

The kind of person who believes in a flat earth has a condition where they are incapable of trusting anything that contradicts their opinion unless they see it with their own eyes.
They just have confirmation bias, like we all do, but their's is dialled up to 11. To the point that they're paranoid the entire world is lying to them.

In my totally unqualified opinion, people who are heavily into CT's like Jim Corr and clearly OP's flatmate are actually mentally ill and somewhere on the schizophrenic spectrum, and require the help of a professional. Ridicule doesn't really do anything except push them further into paranoia.

endacl

faceman wrote: »

2. Show your flat mate this video.

Too easy...

Duggy747

The Flat Earth thing had been around for a while but it was always predominantly a satire movement, much like Landover Baptist website being an elaborate satire on extreme conservative views. Come up with the most outrageous claims as "proof" and just troll the hell out of people.

But in the past few years there's been a rise and acceptance of anti-intellectualism, value of opinion over knowledge, every person and their dog becoming a social media science or health "guru" spreading amazing levels of misinformation to their audiences, distrust in authority bodies, me getting older and noticing it more has just led me to understand that people will really believe just about anything to support their hyper-sensitive confirmation bias.

There is literally no evidence or proof you could bring to the table that could make these people analyse their situation in a critical fashion.......despite their constant use of "keep an open mind"...........it becomes part of their persona.

I mean, at this stage..............in 2016.............you'd nearly have to have a special talent to be this genuinely ignorant of the basic fundamental understandings of our world.

Holographic moon...........there's no stars (people not understanding exposure in photography is just astonishing).................are there parasites or a neurological viral strain going around making people this stupid or something?

Ficheall

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

WHAT? This makes no sense. Science isn't an ideology, we know the Earth isn't flat because we can observe it from space, we know it's not flat because satellites orbit it, we know it's not flat because of gravity, there are a ton of physical, gravitational and visual proofs to show the Earth isn't flat. People like us (science students/lovers/graduates) aren't like the people in charge then (AKA religion, an ideology that has a dogma and refuses to accept facts) in any sense.

How much of that stuff can you prove, Mr. Scientist? I can show you a sophisticated picture of a bluey-green disc 'Earth' floating in a blacky 'space' background, sure, and say this is Earth, and therefore it's round. Etc.
You're making the assumption that not everyone is part of some big conspiracy to trick you, and if you're as gullible as that, you'll believe anything...



Most likely explanation - OP's roommate is taking the piss out of him.

Duggy747

Duggy747 wrote: »

are there parasites or a neurological viral strain going around making people this stupid or something?

Nah it has always been that way. The internet has just given them a voice. The more accessible and "idiot proof" the internet becomes - the more idiots will be capable of it's use alas.

But there are billions of "meme machines" (brains) on the planet and they are not evolved with very good filters to things like over active pattern recognitions and so forth.

So whatever meme you throw out there - even in satire it seems - is going to find some uptake in some of those meme machines and be perpetuated as "fact". Whether it be flat earth - evolution denial - or the idea that a god created our universe.

suicide_circus

When we live in a world in which the majority of the 8 billion people believe in some kind of god(s) for which there is absolutely no evidence, we should not be surprised that there are plenty of people who believe nonsense conspiracy theories.

The Randy Riverbeast

I didn't realise those idiots still exist, would have thought they would have died out a few centuries ago.

Congrats creationists, you are no longer the dumbest group I can think of. Time to update the chart.

http://www.hedonistica.com/archives/petarded.jpg

The Randy Riverbeast

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

I didn't realise those idiots still exist, would have thought they would have died out a few centuries ago.

If only. But as SC says above - on a planet where the majority % think there is a god despite there being no actual basis for that claim - there is little hope that other minority nut jobs will ever die out completely.

At some point this video will be linked to as an example in the thread - so I might as well just get it out of the way now.