Buying from cousin who is a car dealer

tramoreman77

My cousin sells cars ,moderately big dealership up the country ,can anyone tell me how much he's making off selling me a car from Northern Ireland ,cause I know that's where he gets them from .i just want to find out so I can make an offer ,thanks

bmwguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

My cousin sells cars ,moderately big dealership up the country ,can anyone tell me how much he's making off selling me a car from Northern Ireland ,cause I know that's where he gets them from .i just want to find out so I can make an offer ,thanks

2,336 Euro he will make off that deal if my calculations are correct and he throws in a tank of daysul and taxes it for 6 months


Honestly, nobody can answer that without details. Details that only he knows and will not and should not share with his customers. You don't know what price he pays but if you want an educated guess price them up the north yourself, allow for exchange rate, vrt, transport, margin and then make an offer.

If you give details of the car people will give you their opinions on how much to offer

tramoreman77

Really that's left me more confused ,thanks for your answer ,because I have to work out the sterling ,where do car dealers buy there cars from ?? If he buys it from Northern Ireland will he be charged for the vrt

bmwguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

Really that's left me more confused ,thanks for your answer ,because I have to work out the sterling ,where do car dealers buy there cars from ?? If he buys it from Northern Ireland will he be charged for the vrt

I edited my post to be more helpful, you need to provide details of what you are buying. Nobody knows where he is getting them, is he a main dealer?. Vrt needs to be paid before registering the car in Ireland.

tramoreman77

It's a 2010 Audi ,can the dealer (cousin)change the car over without charge to him ,I'd like to be able to say that to him as a favour

bmwguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

It's a 2010 Audi ,can the dealer (cousin)change the car over without charge to him ,I'd like to be able to say that to him as a favour

Change it to an Irish registration? No he will be charged to do that, or he can sell it to you as a NI reg (not meant to but it happens) and you pay yourself. Either way nobody is exempt from vrt unfortunately the only way is to not pay it and drive on Ni plates but that's illegal

tramoreman77

I wouldn't like to take the risk ,thanks for your
advice

tramoreman77

I wouldn't like to take the risk ,thanks for your
advice

colm_mcm

Best thing you can do is figure how much the car is worth here, put a value on buying from him (will you get a super duper warranty etc) and ask him for his price. If you can get similar cheaper then do you still want to deal?

Are you trying to do him a favour by putting business his way, and if so - do you think a zero profit or low profit deal from a relative is something he actually wants?

colm_mcm

Best thing you can do is figure how much the car is worth here, put a value on buying from him (will you get a super duper warranty etc) and ask him for his price. If you can get similar cheaper then do you still want to deal?

Are you trying to do him a favour by putting business his way, and if so - do you think a zero profit or low profit deal from a relative is something he actually wants?

George Dalton

To be totally honest OP, from the tone of your posts if you were my cousin I doubt that I would want to sell you a car.

tramoreman77

George Dalton wrote: »

To be totally honest OP, from the tone of your posts if you were my cousin I doubt that I would want to sell you a car.

I know nothing about cars mechanically ,he told me he would give me a fair deal ,he's also known as been a bit of a dell boy,so George dalton don't go making irrelevant comments unless you can help me ,I didn't insult you or make a comment against you or remark ,I expect an apology

bazz26

Buying or selling to or from family members ends up being nothing but heartache. When something goes wrong the buyer blaming the seller for taking advantage and selling them a car with problems. Then the seller blames the buyer of looking to have everything fixed for nothing because they are family. It just ends in rows and families falling out with each other.

Just avoid these type of situations and buy from somewhere else, is my advice. When it comes to business there really is no such things as family or friends.

Mervyn Skidmore

bazz26 wrote: »

Buying or selling to or from family members ends up being nothing but heartache. When something goes wrong the buyer blaming the seller for taking advantage and selling them a car with problems. Then the seller blames the buyer of looking to have everything fixed for nothing because they are family. It just ends in rows and families falling out with each other.

Just avoid these type of situations and buy from somewhere else, is my advice. When it comes to business there really is no such things as family or friends.

It really doesn't have to be like that at all. If you trust your family then they do what's best for you. If my cousin offered me a great deal I'd snap at it, isn't that what family is there for? The fact that the op has to ask the question is enough for me.

George Dalton

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

It really doesn't have to be like that at all. If you trust your family then they do what's best for you. If my cousin offered me a great deal I'd snap at it, isn't that what family is there for?.

Agreed. In this case the OP seems a pretty touchy and suspicious sort of chap though. He appears more concerned that his cousin might make a few quid out of him than whether he is getting a good deal or not.

tramoreman77

George Dalton wrote: »

Agreed. In this case the OP seems a pretty touchy and suspicious sort of chap though. He appears more concerned that his cousin might make a few quid out of him than whether he is getting a good deal or not.

Suspicious ,I am after your comments .george dalton I'm waiting on my apology or il report you

peteb2

What are you op? 10 years old? Report him for what?? I don't think George Dalton wants to be your friend anyway. So there ! 😢

Arbiter of Good Taste

tramoreman77 wrote: »

Suspicious ,I am after your comments .george dalton I'm waiting on my apology or il report you

Are you serious?

tramoreman77

I posted this add to ask advice ,not for another car dealer to have who has a chip on his shoulder and make childish comments irrelevant to this post .

eeguy

You're asking people to estimate how much profit your cousin is making on a car without telling us the model, year, condition or selling price?

Are you for real?

tramoreman77

eeguy wrote: »

You're asking people to estimate how much profit your cousin is making on a car without telling us the model, year, condition or selling price?

Are you for real?

Obviously you have not read my previous replies .are you real,or just someone that likes to thread spoil

Dr Turk Turkelton

Hi op, in this case I don't think you should buy a car of your cousin as it won't end well. You seem like a naturally suspicious person in which case if anything goes wrong with the car afterwards whether or not it is your cousins fault you will see him as the one to blame which will end up in a family rift.
If I were you I would buy from someone whom you don't know and if there is any problem at least it will be a stranger your falling out with.
Also just an FYI but George Dalton is probably the singularly most helpful poster on the motors forum if not the whole of boards. Without fail he is here giving his time, advice and expertise for free to posters who have queries.

tramoreman77

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Hi op, in this case I don't think you should buy a car of your cousin as it won't end well. You seem like a naturally suspicious person in which case if anything goes wrong with the car afterwards whether or not it is your cousins fault you will see him as the one to blame which will end up in a family rift.
If I were you I would buy from someone whom you don't know and if there is any problem at least it will be a stranger your falling out with.
Also just an FYI but George Dalton is probably the singularly most helpful poster on the motors forum if not the whole of boards. Without fail he is here giving his time, advice and expertise for free to posters who have queries.

I appreciate that but not to feel insulted

punisher5112

Op serious note good advice has been given.

Its very hard to know what sort of money as there are all sorts of overheads.

Are you close with your cousin ?

He may well look after you as family but only you know that answer.

Most likely cars from UK or north are sourced from auctions.

He may also have contacts up there and get some as trade ins etc....

Why don't you look up 2010 same model on autotrader and check prices then go to ros.ie and calculate VRT on model and spec.

You could buy yourself and travel up and buy but advice would be get it thoroughly checked over private sale or from a dealer. If main dealer or that obviously cost will be more.

Good luck with the new motor.

eeguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

Obviously you have not read my previous replies .are you real,or just someone that likes to thread spoil

I have read them.

Your question is basically "how much does it cost to bring a 2010 Audi from the north into the Republic and how much profit can be made after taxes and duties"

There's no specifics that will allow anyone to give you an answer and you're giving out to anyone who asks for them.

tramoreman77

I came here for advice and thank everyone who offered there time to reply,not the car dealer who made accusations about me personally,I did not make comments on the cars he sold to people ,George dalton .

tramoreman77

tramoreman77 wrote: »

My cousin sells cars ,moderately big dealership up the country ,can anyone tell me how much he's making off selling me a car from Northern Ireland ,cause I know that's where he gets them from .i just want to find out so I can make an offer ,thanks

tramoreman77 wrote: »

It's a 2010 Audi ,can the dealer (cousin)change the car over without charge to him ,I'd like to be able to say that to him as a favour

I wouldn't know exactly what he'd be paying for it, nor could I quantify how much work he'd put in to get it here ready for sale. To be fair if you buy off him you are essentially paying him for
1) Sourcing the car
2) buying it
3) getting it into the ROI
4) clearing it
5) getting it ready for sale

Rather than wondering what he's after paying for it just ask him what sort of €s will he want off you for it.

Compare that to what else is available....... example here from a dealer that sells a huge amount of cars, many of which are gone in record time

Bog spec 2010 120bhp A4 with 140k miles on it.... asking €12.5k
http://www.billgriffinmotors.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1413302&r=


You must also remember you are buying a 6 year old quite likely ex repmobile, a few things might crop up over the coming 3/6/12 months, not really your cousins fault, that's the joy of 2nd hand cars

tramoreman77

eeguy wrote: »

I have read them.

Your question is basically "how much does it cost to bring a 2010 Audi from the north into the Republic and how much profit can be made after taxes and duties"

There's no specifics that will allow anyone to give you an answer and you're giving out to anyone who asks for them.

You only read back after I commented on your first post ,which said I didn't give the make or the year ,so get ur facts right

eeguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

You only read back after I commented on your first post ,which said I didn't give the make or the year ,so get ur facts right

You gave the make but not the model, which is just as useless.
Also the year is probably the least useful bit of information considering there's still no info on condition warranty previous work done ect.

Are you afraid we're going to track down this car and buy it out from under you?

hometruths

OP sounds like an arsehole to be honest.

There you go, you can report me instead.

Aka Ishur

tramoreman77 wrote: »

You only read back after I commented on your first post ,which said I didn't give the make or the year ,so get ur facts right

Jayz did you watch "How to lose friends and alienate people" last night or something?

hometruths

OP sounds like an arsehole to be honest.

There you go, you can report me instead.

tramoreman77

eeguy wrote: »

You gave the make but not the model, which is just as useless.
Also the year is probably the least useful bit of information considering there's still no info on condition warranty previous work done ect.

Are you afraid we're going to track down this car and buy it out from under you?

You're asking people to estimate how much profit your cousin is making on a car without telling us the model, year, condition or selling price?

Your first reply after not reading through the thread properly and just looking to have a go .dont reply please

eeguy

tramoreman77 wrote: »

Your first reply after not reading through the thread properly and just looking to have a go .dont reply please

If you ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer.

Good luck to you.

Atlantic Dawn

Has he proviced any cars to other family members in the past, any issues with what they bought from him?

When you have the details of the car, miles, spec etc you can see how much the VRT woud be, I'd expect your cousin to want to want to take somewhere between €300-€500 to cover their expenses over that, ie the cost to source the car, bring it down either under its own steam or on a transporter and sort out the VRT.

grogi

tramoreman77 wrote: »

My cousin sells cars ,moderately big dealership up the country ,can anyone tell me how much he's making off selling me a car from Northern Ireland ,cause I know that's where he gets them from .i just want to find out so I can make an offer ,thanks

Simple as that: if you don't trust him, don't deal with him.

CJhaughey

Jebus, if I was a private seller and the OP was going to buy a car off me I'd tell him its not for sale.
It wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Threatening a respected poster because he called you touchy and suspicious is exactly why you would be called touchy and suspicious.
You didn't supply any information on the vehicle you are talking about.
Make, Model, Spec, Year, Mileage, Colour are all important.
Without any of that information people may as well be betting on a horse.
2010 Audi could be anything from a Cat C Audi A1 to a Pristine A8 with all the options.

BreadnBuddha

Best thing to do OP is buy a car from your cousin. If anyone has the ability to understand your needs implicitly, it'll be a family member.

Buying a car from anyone else would be unfair to yourself, your cousin (bless the well meaning eejit) and more than anything else, the poor sod who would have to deal with the backtalking you'd unleash on him after you had to replace brakepads or petrol into it down the line.

Bad attitude doesn't pay for good advice. Call this one a freebie.