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    #9362
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    ricero wrote: »
    Stipe v ngannou in the final stages of being confirmed for ufc 220 in boston this coming january

    Confirmed now. Cormier-Oezdemir moved down to co-main event. This will sell more than 219


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    #9363
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Defending interim belts? It really is the era of paper champions.


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    #9364
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    rob316 wrote: »
    Defending interim belts? It really is the era of paper champions.

    its happened before i think... like pre mcnugget....era at HW i think...


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    #9365
    maximoose
    Registered Users Posts: 9,196 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Miocic Ngannou booked for 220 in January

    Cormier Oezdemir down to co-main

    Oh boy


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    #9366
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    It would be great if they could reachedule the hunt v werdum fight on the undercard of ufc 220


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    #9367
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    ricero wrote: »
    It would be great if they could reachedule the hunt v werdum fight on the undercard of ufc 220
    Thta's a cert for the Perth card as co-headline to Whittaker-Rockhold


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    #9368
    Gamb!t
    Registered Users Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    maximoose wrote: »
    Miocic Ngannou booked for 220 in January

    Cormier Oezdemir down to co-main

    Oh boy
    . I think Miocic's reign as champ will be coming to an end.


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    #9369
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    . I think Miocic's reign as champ will be coming to an end.

    Dont think its the forgone conclusion most people are prediciting. Stipe is one bad mother****er


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    #9370
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    ricero wrote: »
    Dont think its the forgone conclusion most people are prediciting. Stipe is one bad mother****er

    It's as close to a certainty as you can get in MMA. He is going to sleep early


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    #9371
    Useful.Idiot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    It's as close to a certainty as you can get in MMA. He is going to sleep early

    No it isn't! If anyone can beat Ngannou it's Stipe.


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    #9372
    jcd5971
    Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    Double ko


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    #9373
    MartyMcFly84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    Many power punchers tend not to have great gas tanks. If Stipe could bring him past the the second round I feel, the odds starting to turn in his favour.

    Easier said then done of course , but it will be interesting if he can survive the first two rounds of death.


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    #9374
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Stipe hasnt a prayer against that freak of nature, reem had him on queer street Big Fran will decapitate him.


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    #9375
    Useful.Idiot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Lads, as well all know, MMA math is not to be counted upon. Reem was very aggressive and thought he could trade with Ngannou which was a silly game-plan. Stipe has of course a big task ahead of him but if he can wear down Fra against the fence or take him down and pummel him then the gulf in technical skill will then become apparent.


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    #9376
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Stipe has been dropped in his last 2 fights. I don't really think you get the opportunity to recover against someone like N'Gannou. That said technically I think Stipe is the better boxer, so at this weight class it's whoever connects cleanly first.

    God knows what condition N'Gannou will be in after another couple of months being experimented on by UFC scientists in the underground lab tho


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    #9377
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Hasnt long, the fight is in 40 odd days, people are presuming Fran cant wrestle or has cardio issues zero evidence of either from what I've seen from him.


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    #9378
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Useful.Idiot wrote: »
    Lads, as well all know, MMA math is not to be counted upon. Reem was very aggressive and thought he could trade with Ngannou which was a silly game-plan. Stipe has of course a big task ahead of him but if he can wear down Fra against the fence or take him down and pummel him then the gulf in technical skill will then become apparent.

    Overeem got him in the cluinch against the fence, ngannu literally just pushed him away. No one in the current roster troubles him


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    #9379
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,484 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Stipe is an absolute beast, I don't think Fran is gonna walk through him (although he very could do) but I do suspect and hope he (Fran) walks away with the gold.

    Poor Stipe fighting for a better contract all this time and this is the fight he has to prove his worth.


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    #9380
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Stipe is crafty, exeprienced and has a good gas tank. He went 5 rds with JDS when JDS was juiced to the tits and the two of them swung for the fences all night. He's got excellent fundamentals and especially good boxing. Overeem charged at Ngannou like a bull (out of fear I suspect) and over extended especially in the final exchange. I don't think Stipe will make those mistakes. It wasn't that long ago that Curtis Blaydes lasted two full rounds with Ngannou before the ref called it between the 2nd and 3rd.


    From the above it sounds like I fancy Stipe - gun to my head I probably still would go with Ngannou. But I certainly don't think he's a certainty. And for the record I stated on here that I thought Ngannou was an absolute cert vs Overeem.


    It's a cracker of a fight. Best HW matchup since Cain vs JDS 1.


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    #9381
    Lukker-
    Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    So GSP has MW-itis?

    Looks like the the doctors orders is to cut weight and go back down to 170. No one really expected him to defend if he won the belt so it's not really a shock.

    What was a blatant lie though was Danaher saying he was 190 in the cage vs. Bisping. I mean, that's what he weighed when fighting at WW, his body was totally different and a good deal bigger.


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    #9382
    Gamb!t
    Registered Users Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Overeem got him in the cluinch against the fence, ngannu literally just pushed him away. No one in the current roster troubles him
    I thought the ref pushed them away :cool:


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    #9383
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Tferg just had elbow surgery so no rush back for conor by the looks of things.


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    #9384
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    ASOT wrote: »
    Tferg just had elbow surgery so no rush back for conor by the looks of things.

    he could have two new elbows and two new knees while he waits for mcgregor.


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    #9385
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Breaking news: Mcgregor says he is ready to fight now....where you at tony...where you at????


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    #9386
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    CSAC moving one bout from 125 to 135 for this weekend.

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/12/7/16748604/csac-moves-ufc-fresno-bout-up-to-bantamweight-due-to-weight-cutting-regulations


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    #9387
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Bobby knuckles vs rockhold at ufc 221 all but confirmed according to ariel helwani


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    #9388
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Helwani saying GSP has vacated after his diagnosis. Whitaker-Rockhold will be for the full belt.


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    #9389
    Fromvert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    He's sick at the thought of having to fight any of the top 5

    Even though I thought Bisping could take him he never was going to defend it if he won.


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    #9390
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Fiar play to GSP for making the decision so quickly and not holding up the division. If only other fights could do the same


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    #9391
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    ricero wrote: »
    Fiar play to GSP for making the decision so quickly and not holding up the division. If only other fights could do the same

    He made that decision before he even won the belt.

    As for mcnugget, he has dreams of becoming the first fighter ever to be stripped in two divisions


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