06 Audi A4 TDI - S Line

Luckycharms_74

Hi All

I'm thinking of getting this car and have taken it for a test drive.
Any one have an Audi that can recommend good or bad

AUDI A4 2.0 TDI S LINE...NCT 10/17
18"ALLOY WHEELS...ELEC WINDOWS...164K MILES...FULL STAMPED SERVICE HISTORY...TIMING BELT DONE AT 155K...3 NEW TYRES...DUAL CLIMATE CONTROL...2 REMOTE KEYS.

Opinions please



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-2-0-tdi-s-line-tax-5-16-nct-10-17/10554557

KenjiOdo

Looks nice from outside, inside a bit faded/basic.

New models of S line 2.0L TDI €45K+.. Going with those prices it seems about right maybe €5k the 10 year old car. €710 bit high tax.

I'd nearly use the €6k as a deposit on a new(er) car if I could afford monthly repayments. Newer tech over 10 years coming as standard now. That's just my non-expert opinion. Some scrappage deals going also.

KenjiOdo

2.0 TDI Skoda Octavia RS Tax is €200 p.a. in comparison €35k+ though

Mr.Boots

I think half the country want a TDI A4!!!
That dosnt look like great value considering the mileage and whats with 3 new tyres????

sann

Sold a fairly identical model about 6 months ago for €7500. Less milage on mine in fairness. Great car to be fair. Upgraded to the be newer model but if I had a chance I'd swap it for my older model b7 in a heart beat. Tax is the downside of course. Any idea of the engine code of the car you are looking at?

Luckycharms_74

Thanks for the input guys.
~I can get for 5.5k and will take my old car as trade in so 2.5k net cost

Luckycharms_74

sann wrote: »

Sold a fairly identical model about 6 months ago for €7500. Less milage on mine in fairness. Great car to be fair. Upgraded to the be newer model but if I had a chance I'd swap it for my older model b7 in a heart beat. Tax is the downside of course. Any idea of the engine code of the car you are looking at?

I'm going form a 2.7 XDI rexton commercial to this possibly. But I like the Audi A4 , nice car to drive and they seem solid ?
Its an english import (BRE model I think, I know i have heard of the injectors giving trouble in that particular model) .
My mate works in Audi and he checked it out. No insurance claims or damage and seems fairly clean.

sann

My engine in a 07 was bre and it ran faultlessly for the 5 years I had it. Servicing, as in all diesels is vital. Lovely power delivery. Loads in the 140 brake and very good fuel consumption aswel. Flywheel is the main thing to check before buying.

XsApollo

Check what engine is in it.
There are a few issues with the BLB engines as in the oil pump shaft wears out and bye bye engine.

If it has a full stamped dealer history see if you can check if that work was ever done on the oil pump.

Also the clutch pulleys for air con compressor and alternator are prone to going on them.

Check that the aircon is working.

Edit: just read it's the BRE.

Atlantic Dawn

3 new tyres, all caps in the ad...I would avoid just for that alone.

pajero12

I recently bought a BRE 2.0 TDI, Just spent 1500 replacing the cylinder head and EGR Cooler, Wouldn't recommend it!

selous

Is it a real S-Line? I see the badge on the front grill, but it isn't anywhere else, I thought it was usually on the steering wheel too and under front side indicators, or is that later models??

Luckycharms_74

selous wrote: »

Is it a real S-Line? I see the badge on the front grill, but it isn't anywhere else, I thought it was usually on the steering wheel too and under front side indicators, or is that later models??

Its a genuine S-Line

pajero12

selous wrote: »

Is it a real S-Line? I see the badge on the front grill, but it isn't anywhere else, I thought it was usually on the steering wheel too and under front side indicators, or is that later models??

Yep, Cartell is showing it as a genuine s-line,

edit:OP beat me to it while I was replying

selous

Ah that's good anyway, I noticed the leg extension on the seat afterwards,
I had a spin in a 2010 A4 last year, and S-Line only on the steering wheel and a black grill, I asked him for the U.K reg number, he wouldn't give it to me, couldn't check it out as it had no Irish plate on it either only 2010, needless to say, I didn't buy it.

AvonEnniskerry

Honestly it seems basic inside for an Audi with no extras and no leather interior. This alone would put me off.

pajero12

AvonEnniskerry wrote: »

Honestly it seems basic inside for an Audi with no extras and no leather interior. This alone would put me off.

What extras would you be expecting, it has dual zone cc, MFSW, sports seats etc

I looked at a lot of them when buying mine and came across none with leather

AvonEnniskerry

OK I have kids so I've maybe a different view point to the op as mine was a family car. But I had an A6 3l SLine Quattro. It was 05. Had it 3 years and only recently sold it on for the same money. Straight away. Tax was the killer. But it had a full black leather interior... Great to wipe clean. A huge boot... We never struggled for space.
Every extra under the sun, bucket seats, mmi navigation system, 6 CD player, Bose sound system, tinted windows (privacy glass), xenon's, auto wipers, auto lights, cruise control... I'm sure there's more...
Cons there was always something wrong. Every little thing brought up a light that needed to be read to figure out the issue. Everything was expensive to fix... Main dealership jobs. That's what I get for having quattro. But where I live 4 wheel drive makes sense.
In short, the car was incredible to drive. Amazingly comfortable. But I got sick of costly repairs that seemed never ending.

My point is that you can get a lot more for your money out there. But if this seems satisfactory to you and your needs go for it. They're a lovely car... This one just seems to lack wow factor on the inside...

Luckycharms_74

pajero12 wrote: »

I recently bought a BRE 2.0 TDI, Just spent 1500 replacing the cylinder head and EGR Cooler, Wouldn't recommend it!

Ouch that sucks all right.

XsApollo wrote: »

Check what engine is in it.
There are a few issues with the BLB engines as in the oil pump shaft wears out and bye bye engine.

If it has a full stamped dealer history see if you can check if that work was ever done on the oil pump.

Also the clutch pulleys for air con compressor and alternator are prone to going on them.

Check that the aircon is working.

Edit: just read it's the BRE.

Did you ever hear of any problems with oil pump on the BRE as opposed to BLB engine.

A guy told me they can give trouble and costs between €1.5-2.5k to fix it (but maybe hes getting mixed up on the BLB & BRE Engines)
From reading Audi forums it says the BRE engine variant has the spur-drive pump

It's going to audi tomorrow to do a check over on it. I know somethings won't be able to tell from the check but maybe they can say regarding clutch pulleys etc

millington

selous wrote: »

Is it a real S-Line? I see the badge on the front grill, but it isn't anywhere else, I thought it was usually on the steering wheel too and under front side indicators, or is that later models??

Thats only on B8s. This is a B7.

Car is a little bit expensive considering the milage and the fact it's a 2.0 engine. Try and get a lower milage 1.9 for that money. More reliable engine by far.

Luckycharms_74

millington wrote: »

Thats only on B8s. This is a B7.

Car is a little bit expensive considering the milage and the fact it's a 2.0 engine. Try and get a lower milage 1.9 for that money. More reliable engine by far.

I'm gonna get it checked out and have been told by mate in Audi it's prob worth €5k and that's about it.

I'll offer the €5k and if not I'll keep a look out for something else

XsApollo

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Ouch that sucks all right.



Did you ever hear of any problems with oil pump on the BRE as opposed to BLB engine.

A guy told me they can give trouble and costs between €1.5-2.5k to fix it (but maybe hes getting mixed up on the BLB & BRE Engines)
From reading Audi forums it says the BRE engine variant has the spur-drive pump

It's going to audi tomorrow to do a check over on it. I know somethings won't be able to tell from the check but maybe they can say regarding clutch pulleys etc

I think early BRE engines have the same issue Also.

Also clutch pulleys Arnt expensive to fix ,
Just the one on the aircon compressor if it damaged beyond repair you need to replace the compressor which is expensive.

Luckycharms_74

XsApollo wrote: »

I think early BRE engines have the same issue Also.

Also clutch pulleys Arnt expensive to fix ,
Just the one on the aircon compressor if it damaged beyond repair you need to replace the compressor which is expensive.

Thanks for that. I'll know more tomorrow after the Audi garage give it a full check.

duffman3833

i own 07 1.9tdi and i think it is the best quality and most comfortable car Ive owned, its been very reliable too. I service it every 10k. Id recommend one but id go with the 1.9 as 2.0 are troublesome

Luckycharms_74

duffman3833 wrote: »

i own 07 1.9tdi and i think it is the best quality and most comfortable car Ive owned, its been very reliable too. I service it every 10k. Id recommend one but id go with the 1.9 as 2.0 are troublesome

Are the 2.0 really that troublesome ?

I'm finding it hard to fine a nice 1.9 TDI for similar price range

duffman3833

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Are the 2.0 really that troublesome ?

I'm finding it hard to fine a nice 1.9 TDI for similar price range

i cant say myself if they are, i did my research when buying mine and heard the stories

PauloMN

Wouldn't touch a 2.0 TDi of that vintage and with that mileage without the oil pump conversion having been done. See here:

http://www.powermaxengineering.com/oil%20pumps.htm

I have an '06 TDi and it's been a very good car overall. Essential to get a good service history. I change the oil in mine every 10k on the button with proper oil and have never had the sludging issues commonly seen in Audis when the wrong oil is used.

Selling mine later this year if you are not in a hurry, mind you it's not an S-Line. That car you are looking at seems pricey to me.

sann

Can't ever understand all these horror stories about the 2.0 version. Myself and another family member have owned 2 of these 140bph models and have had absolutely no issues in 4 and 5 years of ownership. Having said that they would have been serviced on the button and with all oem service parts. Afaik these had the chain driven oil pumps. Maybe it's the 170 version that has the problems. I couldn't fault them anyway. Both were UK imports.

George Dalton

PauloMN wrote: »

Wouldn't touch a 2.0 TDi of that vintage and with that mileage without the oil pump conversion having been done. See here:

http://www.powermaxengineering.com/oil%20pumps.htm

I have an '06 TDi and it's been a very good car overall. Essential to get a good service history. I change the oil in mine every 10k on the button with proper oil and have never had the sludging issues commonly seen in Audis when the wrong oil is used.

The BRE balance shaft is gear driven, so just the oil pump hex bar issue needs to be addressed.

The BLB is the one that uses the chain drive.

TDIs don't suffer sludge buildup, only the petrol engines.

Luckycharms_74

George Dalton wrote: »

The BRE balance shaft is gear driven, so just the oil pump hex bar issue needs to be addressed.

The BLB is the one that uses the chain drive.

TDIs don't suffer sludge buildup, only the petrol engines.

Thanks for that.
Can this be done easy enough ?.

George Dalton

Yes, to supply and fit the Powermax upgraded hex drive costs about €800.

Luckycharms_74

George Dalton wrote: »

Yes, to supply and fit the Powermax upgraded hex drive costs about €800.

So would I need to bring to Audi and get them to assess if it needs replacing or just get it done anyway ?

George Dalton

It's totally pointless bringing it to Audi. It's not the type of work that they want to get involved with. They will either deny that there is an issue at all or else quote a crazy price for replacing the entire balance shaft assembly.

Luckycharms_74

George Dalton wrote: »

It's totally pointless bringing it to Audi. It's not the type of work that they want to get involved with. They will either deny that there is an issue at all or else quote a crazy price for replacing the entire balance shaft assembly.

Ok thanks.

So how can I tell if it needs replacing, or just get it done ASAP from mechanic ?

Sorry for the noob questions

PauloMN

George Dalton wrote: »

It's totally pointless bringing it to Audi. It's not the type of work that they want to get involved with. They will either deny that there is an issue at all or else quote a crazy price for replacing the entire balance shaft assembly.

I can second that. I rang Audi before I got mine done, and they claimed to not know about the problem. Then they said I'd need to bring in the car to be plugged into their diagnostics (wtf?!!?!?) at a cost of something like €150. I explained this was preventative maintenance and that their computer wouldn't tell them anything about this in any case. I was then told that the work would cost something like €4k. They just wanted rid of me.

Main dealers are an absolute joke. Mind you, lots of independent mechanics don't know about the issue either. George above did the work on mine, the car is still going strong (touch wood!).

Luckycharms_74

PM sent George