Problems with naughty kids parents not cooperating

caroline456

Hi all,

so I have this big problem with few kids from the estate. We bought a house a while ago and the kids were used to playing in the front garden, making a lot of mess, noise, leaving the grass on our front garden totally destroyed, in the Summer they played soccer on the grass, hitting our new car with the ball.
We gave out to them couple of times but they'd always come back once we go in the house. So we planted the plants hoping that it would stop them and the kids destroyed the plants, jumping on them. When I found out who it was I went to speak to the mother of the child and she gave out to me for putting the blame on her innocent little child for destroying my plants when he said he didn't see the plants!!! Then they started to knock on our doors and windows, 20 times in a row, of course hiding away.
So because I saw them today, I went out and gave out to them, asking to they really think it's funny. But our neighbour came out giving out to me, saying that we're bulling those poor, innocent kids as there's nothing wrong with their behaviour and she'd allow them to knock on her door and windows as much as they want.
Should I add - they don't play in anybody else's front garden, neither knock on anybody else's doors or windows.

So am I really wrong here trying to protect what's mine???
What can I do in this situation if their parents are pointing out on us being the bad ones where those kids make our life miserable???

goz83

cctv = record damage = parents pay for damage.

or you could fertilize the grass and plants with manure. that would keep them out for sure.

3DataModem

A little manure on lawn is a good idea, and won't run you into any serious legal problems.

Just make lawn unattractive for them to play and they'll move on. Sink a few posts, dig a couple of holes. Once they've moved on you can sort it out again.

Wabbit Ears

Build a wall or put up railings with a gate.

You could also build raised beds in the garden making it a useless place to play.

What's the garden like now? Also. You could roundup the lawn and rotovate the garden and mix in manure. Leave this sit for for the rest of winter/ spring. By then they will be out out the habit of using it and you will have great soil to do a new lawn.

goz83

3DataModem wrote: »

A little manure on lawn is a good idea, and won't run you into any serious legal problems.

Just make lawn unattractive for them to play and they'll move on. Sink a few posts, dig a couple of holes. Once they've moved on you can sort it out again.

They may see this as an invitation to play. Plus, if poor innocent Johnny injures himself in the garden, you know who ends up paying in the event of a claim.

the_pen_turner

how about a motion sensing sprinkler system

caroline456

I don't understand what we're doing wrong here...???
Why their parents are so angry on us ???

Yes, the poor innocent Johnnies are fighting in our front garden too and they're also being bullied be the older ones and I'm only waiting for a disaster to happen...

Be very wary of doing anything to antagonise them. CCTV is your best bet. You have to live there for years to come.

the_pen_turner

what kind of garden is it. is the garden open to the street and to next doors with no walls etc.


cctv will help.

Grolschevik

Wall/fence. Gate with lock.

caroline456

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what kind of garden is it. is the garden open to the street and to next doors with no walls etc.


cctv will help.

it's an open garden, shared with our neighbours. our neighbours are the main cause of all problems. they're lazy, stupid, living of a social welfare type of people (no offence please!). so while everybody else's front garden is lovely manicured and styled, theirs is a pure mud. and ours was too because there aren't any boundaries set between us (we're living in a semi-d house sharing the wall with them:mad:) their back garden is a pure mess even though both of them are unemployed. so their kids come out and 10 other kids will gather together to play in front of our houses. I don't understand why should I tolerate it???

caroline456

Deleted User wrote: »

Be very wary of doing anything to antagonise them. CCTV is your best bet. You have to live there for years to come.

I think we already have.

they don't even look on us to say hello, but they never did since we moved in...

aaakev

Wall/fence and uninviting bushes? My brother in law had the same problem with a shared garden, kids running through and kids from around the corner would even be in his garden kicking a ball off their front wall! Must have had friends who lived there before and were used to it.

Anyway, he put up a fence between the 2 houses and planted bushes, problem solved straight away.

punisher5112

Holly or thorny type bush.

Get gates.

Cctv

All good points suggested.

markc2951

caroline456 wrote:

it's an open garden, shared with our neighbours. our neighbours are the main cause of all problems. they're lazy, stupid, living of a social welfare type of people (no offence please!). so while everybody else's front garden is lovely manicured and styled, theirs is a pure mud. and ours was too because there aren't any boundaries set between us (we're living in a semi-d house sharing the wall with them ) their back garden is a pure mess even though both of them are unemployed. so their kids come out and 10 other kids will gather together to play in front of our houses. I don't understand why should I tolerate it???

Your making out to be better than these social welfare people..my guess is its a council estate and my question is why are you living in a council estate with these so called lazy stupid social welfare people..

Maybe try and move up to howth or Blackrock maybe ??

snoopy12

Are properties rented or owner occupied?

caroline456

markc2951 wrote: »

Your making out to be better than these social welfare people..my guess is its a council estate and my question is why are you living in a council estate with these so called lazy stupid social welfare people..

Maybe try and move up to howth or Blackrock maybe ??

it's not a council estate we paid nearly 200k for the house year ago. there are many people out there who were able to buy a house in the boom times and now they're without the job.

caroline456

snoopy12 wrote: »

Are properties rented or owner occupied?

most of the properties are owner occupied.

I still don't understand why their parents are giving out to us when their kids are actually bullying us by kicking their ball in our door or car or by playing the knock a door with us !!! If they stayed away from our property, I wouldn't even look at them so is it just me thinking there's something wrong with those parents???

caroline456

the_pen_turner wrote: »

cctv will help.

suppose we'll have the CCTV installed and their bad behavior recorded. How is that going to help?

Manach

Perhaps a scarecrow in the image of the Minister of Children, because if the state is now assuming responsiblity of disciplining then they may as well be of use.

markc2951

We were all kids once..just hang in there and ignore the door knocking at least..I know a old women in my estate where kids ball kept going into the yard and she didn't like it so one day she stuck a knife in the ball and threw it back out..

She drove them twice as bad then with kids sitting on her wall and the usual stuff..I'm talking about 9-12 year olds

caroline456

markc2951 wrote: »

We were all kids once..just hang in there and ignore the door knocking at least..I know a old women in my estate where kids ball kept going into the yard and she didn't like it so one day she stuck a knife in the ball and threw it back out..

She drove them twice as bad then with kids sitting on her wall and the usual stuff..I'm talking about 9-12 year olds

I suppose we should ignore them for a while. The kids are probably taking it as a really funny game, laughing on us when we open the door. If we ignore them chances are they might stop...

P_1

A nice wall is your friend here

esforum

knick knacks as we called them are best ignored but expecting the OP to ignore kids in THEIR garden? **** that!

OP, CCTV, Pm me for some advise, I used to install systems once upon a time.

The cameras will provide evidence of tresspass plain and simple as thats what it is. Alas, after that its a long long slog to have the matter dealt with but you can get lucky sometimes. I have dealt with beighbours from hell so again PM me for some more advise.

MarkAnthony

One of them mosquito thingies.

http://www.movingsoundtech.com/

On the parents - shouting and controlling you is much easier than controlling their own spawn so they'll take the path of least resistance. Also short of killing someone, many parents consider most conduct to be 'kids being kids'. There isn't much you can do about it.

celligraphy

Get a loan of a friend or family members dog and put it in the garden , they 'll be more than warey to go in