Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Flood Insurance Levy. Yay or Nay.

  • 08-01-2016 5:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭


    The UK currently are charging approx £10 per policy so as people in flooded areas without cover can be assisted.

    There has been a lot of talk recently here aswell regarding same, and Enda and Co. are to meet the insurance industry next week. Considering the high prices people already pay for insurance, be it car, health or property plus the fact that we already pay levies, is it right that we should be asked to cough up more?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Mod: Moved to Banking & Insurance & Pensions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    Fixing the problem is the only long tern course of action. Can you imagine the pace and bureaucracy that public servants would bring to the process? The initial levy would be swallowed up in admin, so the amount would go up. Remedial drainage work would be postponed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Enough levies on insurance as is and the price if the thing is going through the roof. Sorry, but no. If you don't want to be flooded move off the flood plain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    A definite NO from me and I live in a flood plane and missed flooding last year (only a couple of weeks ago) by inches.

    Our house has been here 200 years and historically has flooded up to the windows according to local pub talk but I still say no because I don't think we should subsidise bad planning and those who have recently built new house on flood planes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    No and Nationalise the Insurance Industry (not going to happen).


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,705 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    No from me as it just covers up incompetence. There's also scatterings of houses in some areas where you can't justifiably spend money on a repair job to cover so few people, instead it would be cheaper to level the houses and give them a free house in the nearest town.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Nay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0107/758270-flooding-farmers/

    What's the difference between the farming community and the others

    who were flooded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    No that is just ignoring the problem pushing it onto the shoulders of policy holders. Insurance companies need to be brought to buck too their attitude and lack of help when needed is appaling. They won't insure you again unless you have taken measures to prevent flooding a 2nd time now tell me what mere mortal can hold back the Shannon? Time for the government and all their quangos to man up and fix it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0107/758270-flooding-farmers/

    What's the difference between the farming community and the others

    who were flooded?

    They're farmers and don't you know FG main support is from farming communities and it's an election year.

    Also farms are buinesses and other businesses have already availed of comp for flooding so they're no different. It's winter fodder is damaged sheds are damaged animals are hungry so they need some sort of help to avoid scenes like 2009 where stock had to be destroyed due to lack of fodder.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    screamer wrote: »
    No that is just ignoring the problem pushing it onto the shoulders of policy holders. Insurance companies need to be brought to buck too their attitude and lack of help when needed is appaling. They won't insure you again unless you have taken measures to prevent flooding a 2nd time now tell me what mere mortal can hold back the Shannon? Time for the government and all their quangos to man up and fix it.

    My view also. The local authorities were happy to collect development levies etc by granting planning all over the place. Those same respective coco where flooding has occured should now assist those people through the LPT. It was introduced after all for the provision of local services.

    When the OPW build appropriate flood defences the insurance companies should then be compelled to insure the 'risk'. If the right defences are built by the govt the risk should be minimal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    screamer wrote: »
    Insurance companies need to be brought to buck too their attitude and lack of help when needed is appaling. They won't insure you again unless you have taken measures to prevent flooding a 2nd time now tell me what mere mortal can hold back the Shannon?

    So you expect Insurers to issue flood cover to people as part of a standard policy for approx €400 per year, knowing that they are certain to face an average payout of €20,000 every couple of years? Do you know how improbable that is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    screamer wrote: »
    They're farmers and don't you know FG main support is from farming communities and it's an election year.:rolleyes:

    Also farms are businesses and other businesses have already availed of comp for flooding so they're no different. It's winter fodder is damaged sheds are damaged animals are hungry so they need some sort of help to avoid scenes like 2009 where stock had to be destroyed due to lack of fodder.

    Don't businesses have insurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Im going to say yes, its pretty unpalatable for us having gotten reemed with exciting new taxes like usc, irish water, lpt etc, but if you ignore that, having an extra charge for an emergency situation that comes up once a decade seems a better solution than having to make random cuts to find the funds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Trish56


    Levy or no levy we will be paying one way or another through increased annual premiums. If Insurance Companies have to pay out huge claims well then they increase the renewal premiums on all home policies to cover their losses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭CaraMay


    No way.

    Zurich refused us flood cover last year even though there hasn't even been a large puddle here any time during the floods. Im not covered for flooding so why would I pay a premium?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    NAY from me.

    This is primarily an engineering problem.

    Flooding that becomes an inevitable and repeated event with a probability of occurrence of 100% is no longer a chance event. Insurers do not underwrite the former.

    A levy would be just one more burden too much.

    I think there is a misconception about a levy. Previous insurance levies were primarily aimed to help out with the cost of bailing out failed insurance companies. This levy would be likely to be spent on flood defences. Therefore, the insuring public will pay - via a levy - for the failure of central and local government to undertake adequate infrastructural engineering works to deal with the problem in the first place. Typical.

    Don't get me started about developers being granted permission to build on flood planes. That is a whole novel in it's own right given that there is so much to say about the issue.


Advertisement