Throwback Thursday

BonnieSituation

Queuing up in Centra to get tickets used to fill me with serious anxiety.

The Annual Tax Saver and Leap saved me.

punisher5112

tabbey wrote: »

Did they also have one selling night bus tickets?

Last one is still in Donnybrook, 1994 reg, it's dumped around the back of a pump house. It doesn't run. I'm surprised they kept it, last movement was from besides maintenance shed up to the very back.

Cats were living in it.

crushproof

Right you are, hemmed right in there. What a sad state. Many memories of standing in the crush to get the nitelink ticket home.

Csalem

This week we are going back thirty years to KD 203 on Lower Abbey Street. The bus is operating a service on route 29A. This route was taken over by CIE from the GNR(I) in 1958, and it connected the city centre with Raheny (with a northern terminus at Grange Road Cross). Around 1970 it was extended to Newgrove Cross and then to Baldoyle in November 2012. Under Bus Connects it will effectively become route H1.
KD 203 was delivered new to CIE in 1982. It spent most of its life in Phibsborough Garage, though temporarily moved to Clontarf Garage to increase the audience for this all-over ad campaign. It was withdrawn around 2000.
The bus is in an all-over ad for PMPA Insurance. This was once the largest car insurance company in Ireland, but went into administration in 1983, and didn't exit it until 2013. A levy was placed on all insurance policies in Ireland in order to make up the losses of the company. PMPA eventually was absorbed into AXA insurance.
The building behind the bus is currently a Wetherspoon's pub. 13/05/1991

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punisher5112

Dropping the numbers for bus connects is going to be such a mess imo

Csalem

Going back thirty-one years this week to D 816 on O'Connell Street with a service on route 13. D 816 was delivered new to CIE in 1976. It spend a brief period in Conyngham Road before moving to Donnybrook garage where it spent the rest of its life. It was withdrawn, and went for scrap, in 1994.
Route 13 started in 1939, initially between Glasnevin and Beechwood Avenue. After a five year period where it did not serve the northside, it was extended to Wadelai Park in 1948, before reaching Ballymun around 1980. In 1985 the southern terminus moved to Palmerston Park, before being cut back further in 1997 to Merrion Square. In September 2011 the route grew substantially when it merged with the 51B and 51C and operated from Harristown to Grange Castle via the City Centre.
The bus is in an all-over ad for Radion. This was a washing detergent made by Unilever, and initially launched in 1989. Although the brand used a striking orange colour scheme, it was never very popular. It was relaunched in 1994 and 1997 before being dropped in 1999.
21/05/1990

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Burt Renaults

Csalem wrote: »

Going back thirty-one years this week to D 816 on O'Connell Street with a service on route 13. D 816 was delivered new to CIE in 1976. It spend a brief period in Conyngham Road before moving to Donnybrook garage where it spent the rest of its life. It was withdrawn, and went for scrap, in 1994.
Route 13 started in 1939, initially between Glasnevin and Beechwood Avenue. After a five year period where it did not serve the northside, it was extended to Wadelai Park in 1948, before reaching Ballymun around 1980. In 1985 the southern terminus moved to Palmerston Park, before being cut back further in 1997 to Merrion Square. In September 2011 the route grew substantially when it merged with the 51B and 51C and operated from Harristown to Grange Castle via the City Centre.
The bus is in an all-over ad for Radion. This was a washing detergent made by Unilever, and initially launched in 1989. Although the brand used a striking orange colour scheme, it was never very popular. It was relaunched in 1994 and 1997 before being dropped in 1999.
21/05/1990

Throwback Thursday (280) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

But it removed dirt and odours. Unlike all the other brands, which presumably only did one or the other.

punisher5112

The colour would definitely put me off but not only that.... It was way too close looking to radioactive....

Imagine been part of that design team and advertising team...

BonnieSituation

It was everywhere!

Mad to think how some brands fail no matter how much they try!

I actually think they would be a nice livery colour-set on a post-87 CIE bus in the timeline where DB doesn't get established.

Csalem

This week we are going back to the last century and KC 176 on route 16A to Beaumont. Route 16A started operating between Beaumont and Lower Rathfarnham in 1955. In 1985 the northside terminus moved to Santry, which it shared with route 16, on Shanard Road. This is where KC 176 is actually going. In 1999 the terminus was moved further north again to Dublin Airport, where it remained until 2012. The southern terminus was always on Nutgrove Avenue. Network Direct saw the 16 and 16A merge into new route 16 which operates from Dublin Airport to Ballinteer.
KC 176 was delivered new to CIE in 1985.It initially operated in Limerick, before coming to Dublin in 1988. It was based in Summerhill and Conyngham Road garages before being withdrawn around 1998.
Behind the bus is Dublin Bus head office.
O'Connell Street, 27/05/1995

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Losty Dublin

Csalem wrote: »

This week we are going back to the last century and KC 176 on route 16A to Beaumont. Route 16A started operating between Beaumont and Lower Rathfarnham in 1955. In 1985 the northside terminus moved to Santry, which it shared with route 16, on Shanard Road. This is where KC 176 is actually going. In 1999 the terminus was moved further north again to Dublin Airport, where it remained until 2012. The southern terminus was always on Nutgrove Avenue. Network Direct saw the 16 and 16A merge into new route 16 which operates from Dublin Airport to Ballinteer.

For such a long and busy route, the 16/A had more than it’s fair share of KC’s on its duties. While they were adept at carrying standees, a few shopping trolleys, prams or suitcases made their existence on the route a source of bewilderment to most fare paying passengers.

john boye

Losty Dublin wrote: »

For such a long and busy route, the 16/A had more than it’s fair share of KC’s on its duties. While they were adept at carrying standees, a few shopping trolleys, prams or suitcases made their existence on the route a source of bewilderment to most fare paying passengers.

Summerhill took in KCs from Conygnham Rd and Phibsboro (on top of their own ones) in the mid 90s and ended up with far too many so they would invariably turn up on busy routes that they were unsuitable for.

GT89

john boye wrote: »

Summerhill took in KCs from Conygnham Rd and Phibsboro (on top of their own ones) in the mid 90s and ended up with far too many so they would invariably turn up on busy routes that they were unsuitable for.

The reason why I think it's for the better DB have a 100% double deck fleet these days bar the two WSs for the 44b. Can't understand why the NTA wants to buy more single decker buses and has already bought 40 Streetlites already for GAI. It's not like Dublin has an abundance of routes with low bridges.

john boye

GT89 wrote: »

The reason why I think it's for the better DB have a 100% double deck fleet these days bar the two WSs for the 44b. Can't understand why the NTA wants to buy more single decker buses and has already bought 40 Streetlites already for GAI. It's not like Dublin has an abundance of routes with low bridges.

I did think there was possibly a case for a small fleet of single-decks in the DB fleet before the orbital routes moved to GAI but not now. There are some quieter routes but a lot of them are interworked with busier routes.

GT89

john boye wrote: »

I did think there was possibly a case for a small fleet of single-decks in the DB fleet before the orbital routes moved to GAI but not now. There are some quieter routes but a lot of them are interworked with busier routes.

There's no real major advantage of using single deckers as opposed to double deckers. The main cost of operating a bus is the drivers wages which is the same if it's a single or a double decker. Fuel costs are far smaller and there isn't a huge difference between a double decker and single decker in terms of fuel consumption anyway.

john boye

GT89 wrote: »

There's no real major advantage of using single deckers as opposed to double deckers. The main cost of operating a bus is the drivers wages which is the same if it's a single or a double decker. Fuel costs are far smaller and there isn't a huge difference between a double decker and single decker in terms of fuel consumption anyway.

There are cost savings in keeping as few types as possible in a fleet too for standardisation.

When you think about it, it's crazy that a quiet peak time only route like the 44B got 2 brand new buses specifically to operate it a few years ago. A small sub-fleet of (apparently unreliable) buses for one quiet route doesn't seem practical. It probably should have gone to GAI but even that wouldn't be ideal. It's probably more suited to a Local link type service.

Cookie_Monster

GT89 wrote: »

There's no real major advantage of using single deckers as opposed to double deckers.

so why, outside of UK and Irl, is the majority of the European city bus fleet single deckers?

L1011

Lower dwell times on double deckers. Lots of cities have to use them due to medieval street layouts but we nuked those in the Georgian era and what remained again in the 70s

GT89

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

so why, outside of UK and Irl, is the majority of the European city bus fleet single deckers?

Single decker buses on the UK and Irish market are generally smaller than the ones on the continent. The ones used on the continent can generally hold about the same as a double decker.

Csalem

This week we are going back to 1983 and KD 168 in Dun Laoghaire. The bus is operating a service on route 46A to Dublin city centre. The route started in 1926, running between the city centre and Cabinteely. By 1933 it reached Goatstown and in 1936 it got to Dun Laoghaire, where it has remained to this day. In 1996 the route under went the City Swift transformation, and with the opening of the Stillorgan QBC in 1999, the route became one of the most frequent in Dublin. It is seen as the "premiere" route of Dublin Bus.
KD 168 was delivered new to CIE in 1982. Around 1995 it was withdrawn by Dublin Bus. 04/0-6/1983

Throwback Thursday (282) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Csalem

This week we are going back to 1993 and KC 14 on Fleet Street with a service on route 78. This route started operating between the city centre and Ballyfermot in 1953. Its original terminus in Ballyfermot was Spiddal Park (now home to route 79). The route ceased in 1994 when the 78A became a City Swift route, but it was reinstated in 2003 with its western terminus at the Liffey Valley Shopping Centre. Finally in November 2011 the route left the network when it and the 78A were merged into the new cross-city route 40 under Network Direct.
KC 14 was delivered new to CIE in 1983. It spent all of its career operating out of Conyngham Road Garage and was withdrawn after 1996.
It is hard to imagine now, but for many years this part of Fleet Street was home to many bus routes. The tarmac has been replaced by cobble stones and the building beside the bus is now the Thunder Road Cafe, which opened in 1995. 09/06/1993

Throwback Thursday (283) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

BonnieSituation

It still blows my mind that I got my bus home from there back in the day.

Csalem

This week we are going back to 1988 and KD 309 at the route 65B terminus in Killinarden. Route 65B started around 1984, operating between the city centre and Killinarden via Harold's Cross and Tallaght. In 1998 the route was extended to Citywest to where it still operates today. However in 2012 it was diverted away from Tallaght village, operating along Killinniny Road instead.
KD 309 was delivered new to CIE in 1983. It was withdrawn by Dublin Bus in the late 1990s.
The bus is wearing the millennium badge on the side to mark a thousand years of Dublin in 1988.
18/06/1988

Throwback Thursday (284) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

punisher5112

That's mad completely forgot those kd had the stairs so close to the rear.
Think that's actually a good idea to get people on/off

LollipopJimmy

punisher5112 wrote: »

That's mad completely forgot those kd had the stairs so close to the rear.
Think that's actually a good idea to get people on/off

I'd forgotten that too until a visit to Howth last year.

punisher5112

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I'd forgotten that too until a visit to Howth last year.

Was in there once, nice to see the stuff kept.

john boye

Classic green Dunnes bag in the windscreen.

Csalem

This week we are only going back a decade to the end of a bus route. Dublin Bus AX 640 is seen at the terminus for route 11B within UCD Belfield. This route started in 1970, initially running to / from the city centre via Clonskeagh. In the early-1980s it was extended north to Griffith Avenue and Wadelai Park, though by the late 1980s all services terminated at Wadelai Park. Under Network Direct the route was abolished on the 26th June 2011 when a new route 11 started. However the day this picture was taken was actually the last day as the route only operated Monday - Friday in its latter years.
This 11B terminated in a number of locations with UCD over the years. The first one I remember in the early 2000s was behind the student centre, opposite the science block. With the construction of the new nursing school around 2005 the terminus was relocated to this location in the photo on the far side of the sports centre. Currently this home to route 142 during the week.
AX 640 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2006 and is still in service today.
24/06/2011

Throwback Thursday (285) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

clunked

Csalem wrote: »

This week we are going back to 1983 and KD 168 in Dun Laoghaire. The bus is operating a service on route 46A to Dublin city centre. The route started in 1926, running between the city centre and Cabinteely. By 1933 it reached Goatstown and in 1936 it got to Dun Laoghaire, where it has remained to this day. In 1996 the route under went the City Swift transformation, and with the opening of the Stillorgan QBC in 1999, the route became one of the most frequent in Dublin. It is seen as the "premiere" route of Dublin Bus.
KD 168 was delivered new to CIE in 1982. Around 1995 it was withdrawn by Dublin Bus. 04/0-6/1983

Throwback Thursday (282) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

Notice the Setright TIM box on the dash in green. Gave a narrow ticket.

BonnieSituation

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I'd forgotten that too until a visit to Howth last year.

Same as.