ISIS on the way

Malcolm600f

Not sure what scares me more ISIS or the cops with guns...:eek:


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/an-attack-on-ireland-by-isis-or-al-qaeda-could-happen-at-any-time

expectationlost

Malcolm600f wrote: »

Not sure what scares me more ISIS or the cops with guns...:eek:


http://www.sundayworld.com/news/an-attack-on-ireland-by-isis-or-al-qaeda-could-happen-at-any-time

28th April 2015

NIMAN

Religious fundamentalist attack on the way?

Have they not been happening in this country for decades?

Malcolm600f

NIMAN wrote: »

Religious fundamentalist attack on the way?

Have they not been happening in this country for decades?

Not really the same thing the troubles were issues between our own people fighting for their own beliefs ..

silverbolt

NIMAN wrote: »

Religious fundamentalist attack on the way?

Have they not been happening in this country for decades?

No because the Republicans and Loyalists were not religious fanatics, they fought for territory and land as much as relgion. It just so happened to fall that one side was catholic and the other was protestant.

JustTheOne

silverbolt wrote: »

No because the Republicans and Loyalists were not religious fanatics, they fought for territory and land as much as relgion. It just so happened to fall that one side was catholic and the other was protestant.

Loyalists would deliberately target Catholics.

Protestants were burned out of a lot of places especially cork due to been protestants.

Malcolm600f

JustTheOne wrote: »

Protestants were burned out of a lot of places especially cork due to been protestants.

Well that was nothing more than the prods living among assholes..
I am a prod brought up in a community with only a few prod families , my father had a business which employed all catholics , went to a catholic school and never had a issue ,lived on a road which was 99.99% catholic never a issue
and this is living on the border where the issues were more real and more intense...So to be fair been burned out in cork is just the work of assholes nothing more nothing less..

And just to add.. When i went to Portavougie (Very Loyalist area)in NI some years back to collect a boat when speaking to a local fisherman he advised me not to go up the town as i would most likely get hammered by the locals .. I pointed out to him i was a prod so fitted in he said No your a southerner, so nothing about religion it was all down to side of the border..

Elemonator

Malcolm600f wrote: »

Well that was nothing more than the prods living among assholes..
I am a prod brought up in a community with only a few prod families , my father had a business which employed all catholics , went to a catholic school and never had a issue ,lived on a road which was 99.99% catholic never a issue
and this is living on the border where the issues were more real and more intense...So to be fair been burned out in cork is just the work of assholes nothing more nothing less..

And just to add.. When i went to Portavougie (Very Loyalist area)in NI some years back to collect a boat when speaking to a local fisherman he advised me not to go up the town as i would most likely get hammered by the locals .. I pointed out to him i was a prod so fitted in he said No your a southerner, so nothing about religion it was all down to side of the border..

I went as a Catholic to a Protestant school. No issues either.

JustTheOne

Malcolm600f wrote: »

Well that was nothing more than the prods living among assholes..
I am a prod brought up in a community with only a few prod families , my father had a business which employed all catholics , went to a catholic school and never had a issue ,lived on a road which was 99.99% catholic never a issue
and this is living on the border where the issues were more real and more intense...So to be fair been burned out in cork is just the work of assholes nothing more nothing less..

And just to add.. When i went to Portavougie (Very Loyalist area)in NI some years back to collect a boat when speaking to a local fisherman he advised me not to go up the town as i would most likely get hammered by the locals .. I pointed out to him i was a prod so fitted in he said No your a southerner, so nothing about religion it was all down to side of the border..

I must have imagined the many stories of the deliberate targeting of Catholics by gusty Spence and his crew. Or the pub shooting on Halloween, trick or treat.

Not forgetting protesants rounded up on a bus and killed while the Catholics were spared.

Malcolm600f

The whole thing was either a fight for a 32 county Island or a fight to keep Northern Ireland British .. Not once have i seen it refereed to as a 32 county Catholic Island or a prod 6 counties...All about control of a small part of the Island and really nothing to do about religion..

Isaiah

JustTheOne wrote: »

I must have imagined the many stories of the deliberate targeting of Catholics by gusty Spence and his crew. Or the pub shooting on Halloween, trick or treat.

Not forgetting protestants rounded up on a bus and killed while the Catholics were spared.

You need to learn some history, your over simplification is naive in the extreme and dare I say it, deliberately ignorant.

It was not a religious conflict. Catholic and protestant were just convenient ways to identify descendants of planters vs descendants of "natives". There were and are catholic loyalists and protestant republicans. It was a territorial conflict, the UK vs Irish Republicanism and who should govern. The republicans wanted a united Ireland under the republic, the British wanted to keep the republicans down so they could continue to rule Northern Ireland.

How do you identify anonymous guerrilla republicans? You don't, but you know for sure that in targeting the Catholic community you will occasionally hit some republicans and vice versa. It's always been about the Crown and Irish independence, and never about religious idealism.


Isis defines itself and it's goals purely in an extreme form of religious idealism.

JustTheOne

Isaiah wrote: »

You need to learn some history, your over simplification is naive in the extreme and dare I say it, deliberately ignorant.

It was not a religious conflict. Catholic and protestant were just convenient ways to identify descendants of planters vs descendants of "natives". There were and are catholic loyalists and protestant erepublicans. It was a territorial conflict, the UK vs Irish Republicanism and who should govern. The republicans wanted a united Ireland under the republic, the British wanted to keep the republicans down so they could continue to rule Northern Ireland.

How do you identify anonymous guerrilla republicans? You don't, but you know for sure that in targeting the Catholic community you will occasionally hit some republicans and vice versa. It's always been about the Crown and Irish independence, and never about religious idealism.


Isis defines itself and it's goals purely in an extreme form of religious idealism.

If you go back I never said it was.

All I says replying to was the denial we have ever seen a terrorist attack based on religion on this island.

We have as I have shown.

I'm fully aware it wasn't a war based on religion. As is everybody in Ireland and northern Ireland.

Malcolm600f

What always struck me as a bit strange was how these anti prod ,anti brit hard men would sit in a pub on a saturday or sunday and watch english men play soccer on a english TV chanel whilst smoking their british brand ciggi's...They have even been known to fight each other about their british team's football game..Bit irionic to say the least....lol

lukesmom

Malcolm600f wrote: »

What always struck me as a bit strange was how these anti prod ,anti brit hard men would sit in a pub on a saturday or sunday and watch english men play soccer on a english TV chanel whilst smoking their british brand ciggi's...They have even been known to fight each other about their british team's football game..Bit irionic to say the least....lol

Oh that old chestnut

Stealthfins

Malcolm600f wrote:

What always struck me as a bit strange was how these anti prod ,anti brit hard men would sit in a pub on a saturday or sunday and watch english men play soccer on a english TV chanel whilst smoking their british brand ciggi's...They have even been known to fight each other about their british team's football game..Bit irionic to say the least....lol

I found that very odd too.
Or when a rangers guy fouled a celtic guy it's pure mayhem.
Then when it's the other way round, ahhh ref

I seen the same on the beach republicans fishing with British rods,union Jack and the colours and all on the rods.

Malcolm600f

Stealthfins wrote: »

I found that very odd too.
Or when a rangers guy fouled a celtic guy it's pure mayhem.
Then when it's the other way round, ahhh ref

I seen the same on the beach republicans fishing with British rods,union Jack and the colours and all on the rods.

I learnt a very quick and valuable lesson when i was about 10..
I got a T- shirt and there was a union jack on the label so refused to wear it , i wont wear a british flag f**k the brits yada yada yads all steming from the school ground . So my father just said thats OK dont wear it if you feel like that.
Now we use to goto the North to alot of motorbike races ..Next race weekend came i woke up all excited went to get dad up to goto the racing and guess what he was gone.. Message left with my mother that since i dont like the brits and wont have anything to do with the union jack he figured I would not want to got the North or touch sterling ...Lesson learnt...:(