High mileage lovely spec..Am I mad?

jca

Hi all, I'm considering changing the Octavia, I have several interested buyers so I'll be buying straight. All in all I'll have €18,000 to spend. I'm really smitten by this baby https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-passat-2-0-tdi-140bhp-highline-model/10536730 but as can be seen the mileage is huge. As the title says, am I mad?

Damiencm

33k odd miles a year is a lot but I guess its all down to hows its been looked after. How long are u planning to hold onto the car and what kind of mileage will you be doing yourself?

Great looking interior but im not gone on the exterior especially given your dropping €18k. I'd rather a cc myself :-D

Actually since its advertised at €18k i presume a max of €17k straight cash would secure..

ianobrien

33k km per year is higher than average but as long as it has Full Service History as per manufacturers recommendations that you can verify there should not be a problem.

I could not see any reference to a FVWSH in the as though, so wouldn't if the service history isn't there.

jca

I looked at the cc which really are fabulous but can't get up to newer than 2012 for my 18k. I was hoping to get to 2013. My mileage would be around 10-12k per year. I plan on keeping it for about 3 years. Service history would be the back bone of the deal alright. I wonder does it need a timing belt?

X6.430macman

That is the most amount of milage I have ever seen on a car, unbelievable. When I clicked on the link I thought it was going to be an ould banger!!!!

Pkiernan

I think that's way too high mileage to be spending that amount of money on.

jca

This one https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-passat-highline-1-4tsi-dsg-/10300057 would really suit my needs but it's mental money.

MuppetCheck

I don't know why you're considering a diesel at your mileage tbh, especially a leggy one with repair costs likely to be higher as it rises while doing small miles.

That black one is lol expensive alright.

jca

Pkiernan wrote: »

I think that's way too high mileage to be spending that amount of money on.

I think you're right......but it is lovely.. me head is wrecked tbh.

jca

MuppetCheck wrote: »

I don't know why you're considering a diesel at your mileage tbh, especially a leggy one with repair costs likely to be higher as it rises while doing small miles.

That black one is lol expensive alright.

I wonder how far I'd get if I rang and offered €16000 on the black one:pac:

MuppetCheck

You're going to find it hard to find a petrol but over the next month or two trade ins should start showing up online. If you did go diesel something like this might be worth a shot as it will still be under warranty when you have it.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/KIA/Optima/PLATINUM/200714478490574270/advert?channel=CARS

Think Opel were doing the 5 year warranty on these at the time. Pretty meagre spec mind.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Opel/Insignia/AUTOMATI/200714487250823770/advert?channel=CARS

colm_mcm

I can't see it being worthwhile. Mileage is obviously high, and bill isn't gonna make it all better if something goes wrong.

jca

As they say on the telly, now for something completely different, promise ye won't laugh but I like the look of these https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-pulsar-1-2-pet-sv-cvt-connect-pack/11207294 Has anyone here ever driven one?

jonseyblub

Nissan are actually doing deals at the minute with €4000 off new models for January. They might be worth your while looking at. Think the one you are looking at is slightly cheaper without the leather seats

MuppetCheck

jca wrote: »

As they say on the telly, now for something completely different, promise ye won't laugh but I like the look of these https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-pulsar-1-2-pet-sv-cvt-connect-pack/11207294 Has anyone here ever driven one?

Be worth about as much as an ex-rental Tiida would be worth right now in a few years. CVT too... Be a downer from dsg.

jca

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Be worth about as much as an ex-rental Tiida would be worth right now in a few years. CVT too... Be a downer from dsg.

Yea that would be my main worry. Forgetting about the auto, this https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-auris-1-3-petrol-luna-5-door-270-road-t/11152621 doesn't look too bad at all. Deprecation wouldn't be as severe as the Pulsar. Finding decent spec on any petrol car is a real challenge. Maybe it's just me but the Octavias have become very expensive.

bazz26

Mazda 3:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200714401154525530&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Mazda%20Mazda3%2C%20Hatchback%2C%20Oldest%3A%202013%2C%20Petrol%20Only%2C%20Car%20Dealers%20Only%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=165898636&CFTOKEN=42292790&jsessionid=f030f14e435c60f3ca451579765950482727

jca

bazz26 wrote: »

Mazda 3:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200714401154525530&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Mazda%20Mazda3%2C%20Hatchback%2C%20Oldest%3A%202013%2C%20Petrol%20Only%2C%20Car%20Dealers%20Only%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=165898636&CFTOKEN=42292790&jsessionid=f030f14e435c60f3ca451579765950482727

That looks nice it's a pity they don't give more detail on its spec although it looks pretty spartan unfortunately. I don't think that 1.5 engine is great on the emissions front either.

bazz26

The Auris is nothing to write home about either though and there isn't much difference in the motor tax between the two.

Mr.Boots

Passats are as dull as ****!
Its for people who paint their houses magnolia and think they take interesting holidays to Brussels and Washington.
Stick €19k into your carzone search and spend some time browsing and getting hard 😮

jca

bazz26 wrote: »

The Auris is nothing to write home about either though and there isn't much difference in the motor tax between the two.

I thought the 3 was in the 500 tax bracket with that engine, I'm open to correction on that one. The Auris has the touch screen,climate control and the reversing camera which is good for Toyota. The 3 certainly looks much more modern being the latest incarnation of the breed.

screamer

Yes you are nuts to consider droping 18k on a boring 3 year old passat that someone else has driven the sh!t out of. Service history or not 100k in 3 years that's a lot of wear and tear that will rear it's head for you to fix.
You'd be better off buying an older one with less mileage or a newer more mid sized car. Don't waste your cash on that one.

bazz26

I think the tax on the 3 petrol is 390. The Auris might have a few more toys alright and be easier to sell on but overall they are nothing special. A Hyundai i30 might be worth looking at too.

drunkmonkey

Your mileage is low, that cars mileage is high, keep for 3 years and the mileage will be normal again.
Ireland's obsession with the diesel is mad, your mileage doesn't justify one. I don't know what the current rule of thumb is but 10 to 15k a year doesn't require a diesel.
Either way in 3 years time, the cars still going to be worth what every other 6yr old Passat is worth.

jca

I just tried MR BOOTS suggestion again, this looks a bit different, could be a bummer to shift later though..http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/honda/insight/used-2012-honda-insight-es-5dr-au-dublin-fpa-200814494881111500 I haven't a clue about them but the hybrid would suit my short journeys.

Odyssey 2005

jca wrote: »

I just tried MR BOOTS suggestion again, this looks a bit different, could be a bummer to shift later though..http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/honda/insight/used-2012-honda-insight-es-5dr-au-dublin-fpa-200814494881111500 I haven't a clue about them but the hybrid would suit my short journeys.

That's a lovely car !!

Noccy_Mondy

That beige interior with the black carpeting is rotten! Pick one or the other.

delly

If you are up for something outside the norm, how about an Optima. Being a C'eed driver for the last couple of years, I am admittedly a bit of a Kia fanboy. The below one looks to have a large amount of spec included.

http://www.cbg.ie/kia-optima-1.7-2012-waterford

Mr.Boots

Are your requirements a saloon 5 seater?

R.O.R

jca wrote: »

Hi all, I'm considering changing the Octavia, I have several interested buyers so I'll be buying straight. All in all I'll have €18,000 to spend. I'm really smitten by this baby https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-passat-2-0-tdi-140bhp-highline-model/10536730 but as can be seen the mileage is huge. As the title says, am I mad?

I thought that reg number looked familiar......

Full service history, but not by a VW dealer. Seem to remember it was pretty well looked after.

High mileage means it was most likely driven how a diesel should be driven. Timing belt is due at either 210k or 225k I think. Depends on the actual engine type.

Common issues with Passat's as they get older/higher mileage are EGR (don't think the 2.0 is as bad as the 1.6 for that) and the A/C compressor. Both are pricey enough (€800 ish probably) to fix and generally no warning signs before they go. If A/C is blowing cold then it's working, if it doesn't then it's usually the compressor.

Clutch/DMF is another issue, but that was done at 136,000km on that car, so should be good for another while.

If you are still considering it, and want any further info, drop me a PM.

cerastes

Not sure if there is some sweet spot for mileage? that seems like a lot, but is that any worse for a diesel or any car than unusually low mileage or little use.
I just think the price is too high even for the age, but with that mileage, it seems it to me, what are they new?

Otherwise it could be a nice car if its had regular maintenance, although I'm more of advocate of regular/annual oil changes than longlife service intervals, I don’t see the marginal additional cost of regular servicing as being a negative.

It seems all cars get asking prices based on their features advantages but not reduced on their features (or lack of) and faults, ie spec, mileage.

Anyone else think that price seems too high? I haven’t been looking but wouldn't based on price only, not the mileage (assuming servicing completed)

Truckermal

Lexus CT200H is worth a look.

irish_dave_83

You would probably get a a 2012 Audi A3 - 1.6 TDi for that sort of money. I was looking at carzone and there are a few private sale ones, but also a few from SIMI dealers in this range.

coolbeans

irish_dave_83 wrote: »

You would probably get a a 2012 Audi A3 - 1.6 TDi for that sort of money. I was looking at carzone and there are a few private sale ones, but also a few from SIMI dealers in this range.

You could but why would the OP or anyone else for that matter? Desperate value for money and a diesel isn't needed. A lot to be paying for a badge and a mediocre diesel engine.

John T Carroll

jca wrote: »

Hi all, I'm considering changing the Octavia, I have several interested buyers so I'll be buying straight. All in all I'll have €18,000 to spend. I'm really smitten by this baby https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-passat-2-0-tdi-140bhp-highline-model/10536730 but as can be seen the mileage is huge. As the title says, am I mad?

Why is the "mileage" in miles and not KMS, was it originally a UK reg car I wonder which may be a good thing.

jca

Getting things back on track, diesel is out as it ended in disaster for me before I'm just not doing the proper driving a diesel requires. I looked at a few of the hybrid Lexus but they all are either too old(I really want to come to 131 or newer) or the mileage is way too high. My own car has 103k km and it just doesn't make sense to spend €18,000 on a car that has higher mileage than the one I'm getting out of. The Octavia I have must have been a special order for 2009 as it has the half leather cream interior which is very nice but the cream carpet is a demon to keep clean even with the Skoda rubber mats which I why I liked the Honda interior, it may be a bit "colour clashy" but it would keep down the wear and tear on the vacuum cleaner(and my arms)

R.O.R

John T Carroll wrote: »

Why is the "mileage" in miles and not KMS, was it originally a UK reg car I wonder which may be a good thing.

For some reason, cars are still advertised online in Miles rather than KM.

Why would it being a UK car be a good thing? UK Passat's are generally lower standard specification than the Irish equivalents.

It's 100% an original Irish car - I ordered it

jca

R.O.R wrote: »

For some reason, cars are still advertised online in Miles rather than KM.

Why would it being a UK car be a good thing? UK Passat's are generally lower standard specification than the Irish equivalents.

It's 100% an original Irish car - I ordered it

Very interesting Watson. Is it your car or are you a dealer /garage owner? I've lost interest in it now as I really need petrol for my type of driving.

R.O.R

jca wrote: »

Very interesting Watson. Is it your car or are you a dealer /garage owner? I've lost interest in it now as I really need petrol for my type of driving.

I work for a fleet company and it was one of my customer's cars. Was replaced late last year by more or less the same thing in Black Oak Brown.

jca

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Are your requirements a saloon 5 seater?

Yes. With elderly in laws to be transported reasonably frequently it has to be 4 door easily accessible car.

landmarkjohn

jca wrote: »

elderly in laws to be transported reasonably frequently it has to be 4 door easily accessible car.

Consider a Qashqai or similar, your in laws will love you for it (much easier in and out than a standard saloon)... they might even contribute:D

jca

landmarkjohn wrote: »

Consider a Qashqai or similar, your in laws will love you for it (much easier in and out than a standard saloon)... they might even contribute:D

Sorry but I can't stand "Irish Jeeps" got a spin in a new 1.5 dci one recently lord jesus the Serena was faster.

jca

Found the car I want... It's in the UK unfortunately, VRT coming in at €4303 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201512039194499?search-target=usedcars&transmission=automatic&make=skoda&radius=1501&maximum-age=up_to_3_years_old&model=octavia&page=1&postcode=rg95ab&sort=default&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&fuel-type=petrol&aggregatedTrim=Elegance&logcode=p Anyone know anyone who'd import it for me?

colm_mcm

Could you not spin over?

bazz26

Your even at the right side of the country regarding ferry ports.

Keplar240B

That's like 90 miles a day.

The Royal Scam

I think the early posters are right with that amount of milage things start looking a bit worn. I have a March 131 508sw and I am just about to hit 240k and even though it is serviced every 3-4 months by main dealer my car feels old. Pedals , seats and carpets look like they are out of a farmers avensis.

wandererz

Would not even consider spending that amount of money on a Skoda even if it is only 2 years old.

There are other low mileage (although older) options available for that price or lower with leather, sunroof etc.

If you pay that for the Skoda now, what will you sell it for in 2-3yrs? One is generally bored with a used vehicle anyway by year 2 or 3. Whatever figure you have in mind, reduce it... Significantly!

Essentially,if you spend 23k including VRT on that Skoda, would you get back 10 or 15k 2 yrs later?

In my case, as an example, a few years down the road I'd be looking at at a BMW or similar that was 6-8 years old, relatively low mileage (under 50k miles) and with the leather etc and hope to get it for about 12-15k.

Why? Because that's what I've done previously.

1 owner, dealer service history, 25k miles, alloys, sunroof, leather etc for circa 12k along with the BMW badge.

It can be done (unless you absolutely need a car under 6 or so years old of course).

jca

wandererz wrote: »

Would not even consider spending that amount of money on a Skoda even if it is only 2 years old.

There are other low mileage (although older) options available for that price or lower with leather, sunroof etc.

If you pay that for the Skoda now, what will you sell it for in 2-3yrs? One is generally bored with a used vehicle anyway by year 2 or 3. Whatever figure you have in mind, reduce it... Significantly!

Essentially,if you spend 23k including VRT on that Skoda, would you get back 10 or 15k 2 yrs later?

In my case, as an example, a few years down the road I'd be looking at at a BMW or similar that was 6-8 years old, relatively low mileage (under 50k miles) and with the leather etc and hope to get it for about 12-15k.

Why? Because that's what I've done previously.

1 owner, dealer service history, 25k miles, alloys, sunroof, leather etc for circa 12k along with the BMW badge.

It can be done (unless you absolutely need a car under 6 or so years old of course).

I looked at bmw's but petrol cars are very scarce. There's no way I'd touch the diesel. I'm thinking of getting my present car serviced (it's due in 10 days) and driving it for another year. The second hand market will have improved a lot in this year.

wandererz

Just came across this:
http://www.beshoffmotors.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1407865&r=%26z%3D8

Yes, it is diesel, it is a 1.6, it is auto.

But its got a lot going for it.
Having owned Volvo's previously, they're also some of the most comfortable to drive.

colm_mcm

Goalposts moving again