Advice on deep section wheels

funnyclub

Hey guys I am hoping to pick up a set of deep section wheels to use racing. My budget is around 1200 mark give or take a couple of hundred.
I had a set of Zipp 60's last year but sold them to fund upgrading my bike. I liked them but they were a bit heavy.
I was thinking of going for a set of Swiss side hadron 625 wheels as it would save switching brake pads when swapping between them and my fulcrum racing zero's.
But then I was also looking a set of full carbon clinchers from china.
If I was to go for wheels from China I was looking at Light-Bicycle or farsport, is the cost of going for DT Swiss 240s hubs over novatec hubs worth it? As I could have a set of wheels from China shipped minus import duty prices for about 980.
Then the other option is a set of wheels from wheelsmith with their own hubs for the same price.

What do you guys think would the hadron be the better option as it would save a lot of hassle which switching pads etc are they a decent wheel?

Would I be better off with wheelsmith wheels over Chinese as surely the only difference is they are built in the UK using rims from China but would cost more with their own hubs over DT Swiss 240's from China.

Let me know what you guys think and if you have any other suggestions.

koutoubia

Was looking at at Deep Sections for sale last night and it he best bargain at the moment imo is Campy Bullet 80's on Ribble for about 700 as far as I remember.
Very deep ,granted, but Campy quality with alloy braking and clinchers if your that way inclined!

funnyclub

koutoubia wrote: »

Was looking at at Deep Sections for sale last night and it he best bargain at the moment imo is Campy Bullet 80's on Ribble for about 700 as far as I remember.
Very deep ,granted, but Campy quality with alloy braking and clinchers if your that way inclined!

Thanks but they're too deep for me.

nilhg

My "good" wheels are a set of Swissside Gotthards, I've found them great, they've taken a lot of miles and rough roads without complaint, though I did have my rear one written off in a crash, the only complaint I had about them was the need to occasionally oil the freehub but the replacement back wheel has a revised sealing arrangement in that department which seems much better.

I think the hadrons are pretty similar in construction but with the carbon fairing for improved aerodynamics, I've only seen one set in the wild, a chap from Naas CC raced in our inter club league on them, certainly didn't stop him.

Craig06

I have wheel smith full carbon tubs for racing on. Very very light, stiff and accelerate really well. The service from the guys is also excellent.

funnyclub

Anyone else with wheelsmith wheels?
Are their stock hubs any good or would I better off going with hope hubs?

nilhg

Don't know if the Op has seen this?

http://road.cc/content/review/174111-swiss-side-hadron-485-wheelset

funnyclub

nilhg wrote: »

Don't know if the Op has seen this?

http://road.cc/content/review/174111-swiss-side-hadron-485-wheelset

I have but I want 50-60mm tnx

doozerie

The UCI, nerds that they are, have strong views on the suitability of wheels for racing. They have (or had, this dates from 2014) a list of approved "non standard" wheels for racing here: Link

One way of looking at that list is that it's a shortlist of (old-ish) "reliable" wheels for mass start racing. Depending on your faith in the UCI of course!

funnyclub

Seen I a nice set of mavic cosmic c40 for alright money was hoping to go for 50-60mm wheels.

I guess what I am wondering is will I notice a difference in speed between a set of 40mm wheels and a set of 60mm wheels?

Lumen

funnyclub wrote: »

I guess what I am wondering is will I notice a difference in speed between a set of 40mm wheels and a set of 60mm wheels?

It's impossible to notice a difference in speed with any wheels. They will feel different to ride, and you may associate that feeling with going faster, but that's not the same as noticing the speed difference.

custom_build

Lumen wrote:

It's impossible to notice a difference in speed with any wheels. They will feel different to ride, and you may associate that feeling with going faster, but that's not the same as noticing the speed difference.

But surely if you had a power meter and put out the same wattages on various different wheels, you could observe speed differences depending on hubs / aero profile / weight etc. So it would be possible to notice a difference in speed with any wheels. Otherwise everyone would ride the cheapest wheels they could find.

godtabh

custom_build wrote: »

But surely if you had a power meter and put out the same wattages on various different wheels, you could observe speed differences depending on hubs / aero profile / weight etc. So it would be possible to notice a difference in speed with any wheels. Otherwise everyone would ride the cheapest wheels they could find.

GCN had a video on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUdC3mrHcc8

dsaint1

funnyclub wrote: »

Seen I a nice set of mavic cosmic c40 for alright money was hoping to go for 50-60mm wheels.

I guess what I am wondering is will I notice a difference in speed between a set of 40mm wheels and a set of 60mm wheels?

How much did you see the c40's for? I've been looking out myself.

funnyclub

dsaint1 wrote: »

How much did you see the c40's for? I've been looking out myself.

Not telling ;-)

funnyclub

dsaint1 wrote: »

How much did you see the c40's for? I've been looking out myself.

There 2nd hand through a club member.

Just with regards speed I would of thought the depth of the wheels would effect speed.

For example the makers of the Swiss side hadron 625's claimed they were as fast as the best performing aero wheels at the time.

dsaint1

Can be bought for €1165 new if they're the c40 clinchers you're after!

funnyclub

dsaint1 wrote: »

Can be bought for €1165 new if they're the c40 clinchers you're after!

Where mate?

dsaint1

funnyclub wrote: »

Where mate?

Crap, false alarm, I went to the checkout and then VAT was added

€1423 inc VAT

xxcycles

funnyclub

dsaint1 wrote: »

Crap, false alarm, I went to the checkout and then VAT was added

€1423 inc VAT

xxcycles

They a good wheel dude?