Toyota Yaris advice

Poncke

Sooooooooo based on this thread I decided to look for a 2nd hand 1ltr Yaris from a private owner, and there's a good few out there. Looking for a 2003-2004 Yaris. They all look ok, NCT ok, but they all have around 150,000-200,000 km on the clock.

I know it is all down to how the car was handled, driven and serviced, but would that mileage be considered ok?

Based on what I have read, the Yaris is an unstoppable machine.

Cheers

porsche boy

200k is 120,000 miles over 10 years is 12000 miles a year, exactly average.
The Yaris is predominantly bullet proof but if you know little of cars have a mechanic look over it for you. It will be worth the 50 or so quid for the piece of mind.

Poncke

porsche boy wrote: »

200k is 120,000 miles over 10 years is 12000 miles a year, exactly average.
The Yaris is predominantly bullet proof but if you know little of cars have a mechanic look over it for you. It will be worth the 50 or so quid for the piece of mind.

Thats for sure, but that might not be easy done when you need to take it from a private owner. Garages might not be in the area and they might not have the time to check it instantly

Atlantic Dawn

Try to get one with yearly or 12k mile service history. The Sol model is the best spec with CD player and in some cases air con. Worst model is Terra that comes with black bumpers and no electric windows.

alan partridge aha

What are you prepared to spend?

Poncke

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Try to get one with yearly or 12k mile service history. The Sol model is the best spec with CD player and in some cases air con. Worst model is Terra that comes with black bumpers and no electric windows.

Good to know, thanks, I was looking for uni colour bumpers anyways.

Cheers

Poncke

alan partridge aha wrote: »

What are you prepared to spend?

2500

Atlantic Dawn

Poncke wrote: »

Good to know, thanks, I was looking for uni colour bumpers anyways.

Cheers

Luna also has body coloured bumpers and electric windows but generally no CD player.

Sam Kade

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Try to get one with yearly or 12k mile service history. The Sol model is the best spec with CD player and in some cases air con. Worst model is Terra that comes with black bumpers and no electric windows.

I have a 00 model with black bumpers and electric windows so what one are you talking about?

Poncke

Right, thanks again.

alan partridge aha

Nice looking car with low mileage, probably could be had on budget with some haggling.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-1-0ltr-5dr-strata-05/10981332

colm_mcm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Try to get one with yearly or 12k mile service history. The Sol model is the best spec with CD player and in some cases air con. Worst model is Terra that comes with black bumpers and no electric windows.

The strata models had more goodies than the sol. all post mid 03 will have CD player and abs. very few sol out there and practically none with Ac.
the one with no power steering or electric Windows was the short lived E model think it was gone by 01.
Terra has electric Windows, central locking, dual airbags and Half painted bumpers.
All models had colour codes bumpers from 03 facelift onwards. blue edition and strata are the ones to go for IMO

Poncke

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Nice looking car with low mileage, probably could be had on budget with some haggling.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-1-0ltr-5dr-strata-05/10981332

That one is new on Done Deal, saved and will call them tomorrow thanks

Edit: actually already seen that one, but now looks more attractive because I am wiser. LOL

alan partridge aha

Poncke wrote: »

That one is new on Done Deal, saved and will call them tomorrow thanks

No bother, make sure it all checks out, best of luck

Atlantic Dawn

Sam Kade wrote: »

I have a 00 model with black bumpers and electric windows so what one are you talking about?

Yes looks like I'm wrong, it's actually electric mirrors that are not on that model.

Del2005

Poncke wrote: »

Thats for sure, but that might not be easy done when you need to take it from a private owner. Garages might not be in the area and they might not have the time to check it instantly

A good gauge of how genuine the seller is if they are open to a mechanic checking it over. If the seller won't allow a 3rd party inspection walk away. Plenty of honest cars for sale so no point in rewarding scumbags.

BTW There are plenty of other 1l cars for sale in your price range and even if you get a Yaris with FSH and a mechanic check out it could still end up being a money pit. Just because a brand or model has a good reputation cars can still bang in a bad way. Check out other brands which are local, so your trusted mechanic can check it over, instead of travelling a long way to get a Yaris you can't get checked out easily.

allthedoyles

Poncke wrote: »

That one is new on Done Deal, saved and will call them tomorrow thanks

Edit: actually already seen that one, but now looks more attractive because I am wiser. LOL

''First to view will buy '' usually means take it or leave it 'cos if you don't give me €2,950 the next person to view will

alan partridge aha

Toyota Yaris is the only car we owned (wife) which increased in value after 2 years, they are a brilliant little car to hold their value, and this hurts as I'm personally a VW man.

Poncke

allthedoyles wrote: »

''First to view will buy '' usually means take it or leave it 'cos if you don't give me €2,950 the next person to view will

Thanks for the heads up, I will find out tomorrow I guess.

colm_mcm

that one in westmeah has had the front bumper resprayed. not unusual in a 10 year old car but worth saying.

alan partridge aha

colm_mcm wrote: »

that one in westmeah has had the front bumper resprayed. not unusual in a 10 year old car but worth saying.

Well spotted Colm, hopefully just the bumper nothing else.

Poncke

colm_mcm wrote: »

that one in westmeah has had the front bumper resprayed. not unusual in a 10 year old car but worth saying.

Hmm I see, one image it looks same colour on the other it seems to be lighter and more blueish. Maybe a small accident, I will check that out.

There was another Yaris, with low mileage but had the clutch changed, not sure what to think of that. Dont trust it, have to fight the urge to go for that one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-toyota-yaris-5-door/11137488`

colm_mcm

VEHICLE
Vehicle Registration Number 05WH3557
Vehicle Details TOYOTA / YARIS
Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Purchased by a Dealer on : 19/11/2015

Notified on : 19/11/2015
Vehicle Registration Certificate
No Vehicle Registration Certificate issued in the last 3 months

Poncke

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-toyota-yaris-5-door-cheap-car-2500/10976838

Good candidate as well

Poncke

I had these saved

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/new-nct-and-full-service-and-full-year-road-teax/10980125
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/very-good-first-car-with-tax-till-january-2016/11035614
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-yaris-nct-until-jan-17/10830670

colm_mcm

That pre facelift 03LS one despite having a terra badge in the back is actually the higher spec Luna. New clutch wouldn't put me off tbh but I'd hold out for a facelft as they have ABS

it had a little prang on the front. you can see where the bumper was squashed against the bumper bar inside on the pass side.
it seems to have new headlights too which woukdht be unusual as they go opaque over time. bumper hanging off on driver side and pass side wing deformed from impact

shietpilot

Poncke wrote: »

Hmm I see, one image it looks same colour on the other it seems to be lighter and more blueish. Maybe a small accident, I will check that out.

There was another Yaris, with low mileage but had the clutch changed, not sure what to think of that. Dont trust it, have to fight the urge to go for that one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-toyota-yaris-5-door/11137488`

The headlight in the last photo has been changed. It looks way cleaner and they didn't put the front bumper on properly on that side. You can see the clip on the headlight in which the bumper is supposed to sit.

Poncke

colm_mcm wrote: »

VEHICLE
Vehicle Registration Number 05WH3557
Vehicle Details TOYOTA / YARIS
Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Purchased by a Dealer on : 19/11/2015

Notified on : 19/11/2015
Vehicle Registration Certificate
No Vehicle Registration Certificate issued in the last 3 months

Which site did you use to get that info?

What does that imply actually, sold to dealer?

shietpilot

Poncke wrote: »

Which site did you use to get that info?

What does that imply actually, sold to dealer?

https://www.motortax.ie/PSE/start.do

Yes

alan partridge aha

Wife has a 12 Yaris bought from Dublin main dealer in 14 and bumper not sitting right on it as with the 09 we had.

Poncke

shietpilot wrote: »

https://www.motortax.ie/PSE/start.do

Yes

Weird. Why would they advertise as private seller?

colm_mcm

Poncke wrote: »

Which site did you use to get that info?

What does that imply actually, sold to dealer?

Got traded into a garage. seller bought it trade. just means they are going to be well able to sell and answer your questions and won't actually know a whole pile about the car as they only just bought it to flip it.

Poncke wrote: »

Weird. Why would they advertise as private seller?

cos they're not really a garage and won't be giving a warranty or paying tax etc.
Quite common. not necessarily something to be afraid of, but handy to know

shietpilot

Poncke wrote: »

Weird. Why would they advertise as private seller?

Maybe they want to mark it as a "trade sale", "sold as seen" in the hopes that they don't need to provide a warranty?

Not sure...

bazz26

Car was probably traded in at a main dealer but is too old to retail on their forecourt. Was probably sold on to a small time wheeler dealer looking to sell it on at a profit without putting any money into it.

colm_mcm

Here's a quick run through the specs

1999-2003

E Windey windows, no central locking, no power steering, black bumpers, black handles. 13 inch steel wheels
Avoid.

Terra
14 inch steel wheels, Semi colour coded bumpers, colour coded handles, manual mirrors, front electric windows, central locking, plastic steering wheel, plastic gearknob, slide/recline rear seat, dual airbags

Luna adds to Terra
Fully colour coded bumpers, and mirrors, leather steering wheel and gearknob, nicer seats.

Sol adds to Luna
Electric mirrors, Remote locking, CD player, height adjustable seat

2003-2006
Terra
Coloured bumpers, ABS, Dual airbags, CD player, Front electric windows, coloured handles,

Luna adds to Terra
Silver inserts in doors and heater, rear headrests, remote locking, leather gearknob

Sol adds to Luna
14 inch alloys, front fogs, colour coded rubbing strips in bumpers, height adjust seat, electric mirrors, lesther wheel

Blue adds to Sol (2004 -2005)
Chrome exhaust tip, scuff plates, remote audio (no elec mirrors or alloys)

Strata adds to Blue (2005 onwards)
Alloy wheels

Poncke

Poncke wrote: »

I had these saved

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/new-nct-and-full-service-and-full-year-road-teax/10980125
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/very-good-first-car-with-tax-till-january-2016/11035614
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-yaris-nct-until-jan-17/10830670

Any thoughts on these cars, now I have you all here.

JohnBoy26

Del2005 wrote: »

A good gauge of how genuine the seller is if they are open to a mechanic checking it over. If the seller won't allow a 3rd party inspection walk away. Plenty of honest cars for sale so no point in rewarding scumbags.

BTW There are plenty of other 1l cars for sale in your price range and even if you get a Yaris with FSH and a mechanic check out it could still end up being a money pit. Just because a brand or model has a good reputation cars can still bang in a bad way. Check out other brands which are local, so your trusted mechanic can check it over, instead of travelling a long way to get a Yaris you can't get checked out easily.

There isn't really though. There really is very few 1.0 liters option out there in the op's budget, especially good options. The chances of a well minded yaris with a fsh ending up being a money pit is extremely slim tbh. Those yaris's are by far the best 1.0 in the op budget. A good one should provide years of hassle free motoring.

Poncke

colm_mcm wrote: »

Here's a quick run through the specs

1999-2003

E Windey windows, no central locking, no power steering, black bumpers, black handles. 13 inch steel wheels
Avoid.

Terra
14 inch steel wheels, Semi colour coded bumpers, colour coded handles, manual mirrors, front electric windows, central locking, plastic steering wheel, plastic gearknob, slide/recline rear seat, dual airbags

Luna adds to Terra
Fully colour coded bumpers, and mirrors, leather steering wheel and gearknob, nicer seats.

Sol adds to Luna
Electric mirrors, Remote locking, CD player, height adjustable seat

2003-2006
Terra
Coloured bumpers, ABS, Dual airbags, CD player, Front electric windows, coloured handles,

Luna adds to Terra
Silver inserts in doors and heater, rear headrests, remote locking

Sol adds to Luna
14 inch alloys, front fogs, colour coded rubbing strips in bumpers, height adjust seat, electric mirrors

Blue adds to Sol (2004 -2005)
Chrome exhaust tip, scuff plates, remote audio (no elec mirrors)

Strata adds to Blue (2005 onwards)
Alloy wheels

Brilliant overview, thanks

allthedoyles

shietpilot wrote: »

The headlight in the last photo has been changed. It looks way cleaner and they didn't put the front bumper on properly on that side. You can see the clip on the headlight in which the bumper is supposed to sit.

I noticed as well that the Westmeath Yaris has only done 1500 miles since it passed the NCT on 26th August . Seems a bit on the light side

colm_mcm

Poncke wrote: »

Any thoughts on these cars, now I have you all here.

none of them jump out, but the black one is the one id get if I had to pick one.

colm_mcm

allthedoyles wrote: »

I noticed as well that the Westmeath Yaris has only done 1500 miles since it passed the NCT on 26th August . Seems a bit on the light side

traded in 6 weeks ago tbf.

Poncke

colm_mcm wrote: »

none of them jump out, but the black one is the one id get if I had to pick one.

Cheers, turns out its a Terra, and now I know more I'd rather get the Strata model :cool:

alan partridge aha

Side story, work colleague knew a woman who was selling a 06 Sol (mark 2) with 140000 miles on it for €2k and the real sweetner was the engine had been replaced by Toyota and had only 20K miles on it. He was humming and hawing but eventually bought it for his son.

Son wrote it off a month later, bloody hell what a waste.

Muckie

Wife has a 01 model, she been driving it for the last 7 years, mother in law gave it to her after she had it 3 years.

In that time i've serviced it, changing oil and filters etc, even replaced brake pads.

Water pump seized, luckily wasnt a big job to replace, if your handy with spanners, cost about €60 all in, took less than an hour too.

Its a basic A-B car, hand brake cables can then to stretch.

But its never broken down or failed to start, would highly recommend.

AA mechanic friend once told me "its one of the few cars he comes across not broken down on the side of the road"

shietpilot

Muckie wrote: »

Wife has a 01 model, she been driving it for the last 7 years, mother in law gave it to her after she had it 3 years.

In that time i've serviced it, changing oil and filters etc, even replaced brake pads.

Water pump seized, luckily wasnt a big job to replace, if your handy with spanners, cost about €60 all in, took less than an hour too.

Its a basic A-B car, hand brake cables can then to stretch.

But its never broken down or failed to start, would highly recommend.

AA mechanic friend once told me "its one of the few cars he comes across broken down on the side of the road"

They're a brilliant little car. I still have my 1999 with 95k~ miles on the clock :pac:

colm_mcm

Same here, we have a 00 with 80 on it, apart from a windscreen washer pump it's been A1 for the last 4 years.

Toyotafanboi

Yeah, we have a 00 the last 4 or 5 years, when the mammy had it there was no hassle, just tyres and oil changes.

The sister has had it the last 2 years and she is the worst driver in the world but even at that its taking the abuse very very well. The only non serviceable items we've replaced were the rear brake lines and the water pump and none of those are really even her fault I suppose. Around 140k on it now and it's going strong.

A friend has a 03 and last time I seen it, it was heading for 270k miles and it was still going very well, he got it as a hand me down from his parents and he doesn't give a **** about it but it won't give in.

Poncke

Guys, what is the T3 model?

Poncke

How can this be a Sol model, without colour coded mirrors

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-2001-2-keys/10943630

https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=01ww4441

Poncke

Same here

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-1-0-petrol-5-doors-nct-february-17/11174169

colm_mcm

I may have been wrong about the coloured mirrors