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Insurance and driving other person car

  • 29-12-2015 9:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭


    I was told today that if your insurance covers you to drive someone elses,and you drive that persons car up to belfast etc, you are no longer covered or insured on the other persons car?

    Is this true??


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    Not true unless it says it in your policy. It would be a good idea to let your insurance company know before you do it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Depends on the territorial limitations of the 3rd party extension - read your policy documents!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    shietpilot wrote: »
    Not true unless it says it in your policy. It would be a good idea to let your insurance company know before you do it though.
    Certainly some additional benefits generally don't apply outside the state so while you may have comprehensive cover for the other car when driving in ireland, you may only have third party outside the state.
    Check with insurance company as otherwise it's all guesswork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    It was axa that told me this today. Your only covered to republic of ireland. Total crap if you ask me.
    The sooner Ireland gets back the rest of the north the better. The exchange rate is a killer when going up for a fewhours


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    cena wrote: »
    It was axa that told me this today. Your only covered to republic of ireland. Total crap if you ask me.
    The sooner Ireland gets back the rest of the north the better. The exchange rate is a killer when going up for a fewhours

    Well if they are whom you have your policy with, you won't be covered driving third party


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    cena wrote: »
    It was axa that told me this today. Your only covered to republic of ireland. Total crap if you ask me.
    The sooner Ireland gets back the rest of the north the better. The exchange rate is a killer when going up for a fewhours

    This type of bull**** saves the insurance company nothing and very often the policies with bull**** are not materially cheaper than proper ones. The regulator should prohibit any small print as it relates to this island.

    Allianz state the other driver thing is applicable in Ireland and the united Kingdom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I must read last years policy. It would put people off going with axa with that kind of policy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    this is what is on the axa site. You have cover to drive in the European Union and European Unionapproved countries That for both full comp and third party. Nothing about none driving in the uk and not been covered


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    cena wrote: »
    this is what is on the axa site. You have cover to drive in the European Union and European Unionapproved countries That for both full comp and third party. Nothing about none driving in the uk and not been covered

    Is that in relation to your policy on your car or driving other cars extension?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Stheno wrote: »
    Is that in relation to your policy on your car or driving other cars extension?

    It goes for both. what I can make out


    1b Driving other cars
    This cover will also apply if you are driving any other car which your certificate of insurance
    covers you to drive. If you are covered to drive other cars, it will be shown in section 5(b)
    of your certificate of insurance.
    This cover only applies if:
    „ „ you do not own the car or you have not hired the car under a hire-purchase agreement;
    „ „ it is shown that this cover applies under section 5(b) of your certificate of insurance;
    „ „ you have the owner’s permission to drive the car; and
    „ „ the vehicle is being used within the ‘limits for use’ shown in your current certificate
    of motor insurance.
    This cover applies to damage or injury happening in Ireland and the UK only.
    This extension applies only to private passenger vehicles. It does not include vans,
    car-vans, jeeps with no seats in the back or vans adapted to carry passengers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    cena wrote: »
    It goes for both. what I can make out


    1b Driving other cars
    This cover will also apply if you are driving any other car which your certificate of insurance
    covers you to drive. If you are covered to drive other cars, it will be shown in section 5(b)
    of your certificate of insurance.
    This cover only applies if:
    „ „ you do not own the car or you have not hired the car under a hire-purchase agreement;
    „ „ it is shown that this cover applies under section 5(b) of your certificate of insurance;
    „ „ you have the owner’s permission to drive the car; and
    „ „ the vehicle is being used within the ‘limits for use’ shown in your current certificate
    of motor insurance.
    This cover applies to damage or injury happening in Ireland and the UK only.
    This extension applies only to private passenger vehicles. It does not include vans,
    car-vans, jeeps with no seats in the back or vans adapted to carry passengers.

    You need to talk to the insurance company again but maybe a different person this time. its amazing the different information that you get from different people and ask for proof of this ie where it is in the policy document


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    9935452 wrote: »
    You need to talk to the insurance company again but maybe a different person this time. its amazing the different information that you get from different people and ask for proof of this ie where it is in the policy document

    On this I disagree, relying on the views of call centre staff who regularly contradict each other is not a good idea.

    The current Axa policy document on its website deals with "driving other cars" in two sections; section 5 part 1b set out above deals with liability to third parties (other than the car owner) and the cover is limited to the UK andIreland. Separately, section 1 deals with loss or damage to the borrowed car and that cover is limited to Ireland only and is capped at €50k.

    The cover applicable to cena will depend on the wording of the identical document in force when he took his insurance out.

    The call centre staff should be better trained but in general are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭GreatDefector


    cena wrote: »
    It was axa that told me this today. Your only covered to republic of ireland. Total crap if you ask me.
    The sooner Ireland gets back the rest of the north the better. The exchange rate is a killer when going up for a fewhours

    Our leaders fought and died so you could drive to Belfast

    ... And so we'd finally have an apple store in the republic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Marcusm wrote: »
    On this I disagree, relying on the views of call centre staff who regularly contradict each other is not a good idea.

    The current Axa policy document on its website deals with "driving other cars" in two sections; section 5 part 1b set out above deals with liability to third parties (other than the car owner) and the cover is limited to the UK andIreland. Separately, section 1 deals with loss or damage to the borrowed car and that cover is limited to Ireland only and is capped at €50k.

    The cover applicable to cena will depend on the wording of the identical document in force when he took his insurance out.

    The call centre staff should be better trained but in general are not.

    I had a look at the policy.I did not come across anything saying I can't drive a other car up north


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    cena wrote: »
    I had a look at the policy.I did not come across anything saying I can't drive a other car up north

    You're misreading my post, I'm not suggesting you can't drive it, I am simply commenting that, under the current policy documentation, anyone you hit is covered but any damage to your friend's car is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Marcusm wrote: »
    You're misreading my post, I'm not suggesting you can't drive it, I am simply commenting that, under the current policy documentation, anyone you hit is covered but any damage to your friend's car is not.

    I was just saying I looked over policy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Just rang them and got confirmed I am covered to drive in the uk


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