Knives, sharpening

uberwolf

Hopefully right forum.

I've a decent set of wusthof knives that my occasional efforts to sharpen clearly hasn't been either frequent or good enough.

Any tips or tools that can be recommended?

Lovely Bloke

ask a local butcher

shrapnel222

if you have the time or inclination, get a good combination whetstone and sharpen them yourself. it takes a little while if they are quite blunt but it's definitely worth it.

duploelabs

shrapnel222 wrote: »

if you have the time or inclination, get a good combination whetstone and sharpen them yourself. it takes a little while if they are quite blunt but it's definitely worth it.

If you've never done it before, I wouldn't start on your lovely set of wusthofs. Could wreck them

Deise Musashi

How blunt are they? A little rub on some wet and dry might bring them back.
I have some guidance on my youtube videos if you fancy a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlKZ2OqXUd8

Mr Magnolia

Although the local butcher will indeed render a sharp edge I wouldn't count on them unless you know and trust them.

Knifes are decent money, I've a few wusthof myself. I tried the butcher once and he produced and edge but he butchered too far into the blade to achieve it.

twignme

I have a set of wusthof knives that I've owned for about 20 years. I do try to use a steel on them frequently but when they need a bit more work I use the small hand held ceramic sharpener that wusthof make and sell themselves. It has a coarse side and a fine side and the ceramic rods are set at exactly the right angle for their own blades. I have tried using a whetstone but have failed spectacularly as every instruction video I have seen shows a different method.

Deise Musashi

I came across this video while "researching", or drooling over very high end knives.

Basically, get a $300 Zwillings Kramer if you can afford same, but a fibrox Victorinox will deliver 90% plus of the performance in day to day use...

http://www.nisbets.ie/Victorinox-Chefs-Knife-21.5cm/C655/ProductDetail.raction = €32.99 at the moment.


http://www.surlatable.com/product/PRO-180374/Bob+Kramer+Carbon+Steel+Chefs+Knife;jsessionid=361EE493F407196EC761734899847595.slt-app-01-p-app3 = $299.95



Sorry to repeat myself, but I posted this on "Buying Knives" and if it can help here also...

twignme wrote:

I have tried using a whetstone but have failed spectacularly as every instruction video I have seen shows a different method. 26-12-2015 00:56

The video of Bob Kramer sharpening below is "The Way" to use a stone.
I use a version of his, and Murray Carter's Method, plus I use jigs to set my angles, or powered kit to speed things up a little.

Basically though, this method is the basis for all sharpening, do what Bob does and all will be well.
Don't let knives get too blunt and a single double sided stone will do you forever, a "King" or "Ice Bear" 1000/6000 or similar will be the only stone required, strop on newsprint or leather and it's done!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/King-47506-Combination-Waterstone-TOISHI/dp/B001DT1X9O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1452390304&sr=8-4&keywords=Water+stone



How Bob Kramer Sharpens is very close to how I like to do it.

The only things I do that he doesn't (and he is World Renowned, so likely I am wrong) on each stone grit, I like to make some stropping strokes at the end to straighten up the burr (cheers Murray Carter).

Driving the edge into the stone raises a burr, swapping sides flexes the burr, so from metal fatigue it will snap off, or I will strip it off using felt/cork/soft wood.

I like to strip the burr off by drawing the edge through a soft wood block, a felt block or a Champagne Cork (cause I'm so fancy).

Moving to each finer grit I drive the edge in first, to raise a progressively finer burr, and strip it by stropping on the stone, and cutting cork.

Final stage is stropping on leather with a hard substrate (backing) and some fine polishing compound (Smurf Poo if available, Autosol or Peek if stuck) or on plain news print.

After this I should have a mirror edge that cuts with no friction and prep work is a joy with a good sized razor sharp kitchen tool.

aidanki

electric sharpener for sale in Lidl at the min, I saw it there last week, any good ?

BaZmO*

aidanki wrote: »

electric sharpener for sale in Lidl at the min, I saw it there last week, any good ?

No. They take lumps out of the blade.

Phoenix3

The shop on Pearse St seem to be the agent for Wusthof.They have a sharpening service-last time I got mine done,they charged me €2 per knife.

duploelabs

Phoenix3 wrote: »

The shop on Pearse St seem to be the agent for Wusthof.They have a sharpening service-last time I got mine done,they charged me €2 per knife.

http://www.sweeneyorourke.com

Loire

Hi,

Just spotted this in Lidl - what would our knife sharpening experts say?!

http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?action=showDetail&id=36932

Loire.

BaZmO*

Loire wrote: »

Hi,

Just spotted this in Lidl - what would our knife sharpening experts say?!

http://www.lidl.ie/en/Offers.htm?action=showDetail&id=36932

Loire.

Things like that are more like grinders than sharpeners. They can destroy knives if not used carefully. The stones are very coarse and they strip away a lot of metal. Good for grinding the correct angle on a blade but you would still need to finish the knife off with a finer grade sharpener.

Gloomtastic!

This is the kind of service your local key cutter/cobbler should provide........

Dubl07

StaySharp in Walkinstown. They charge by the inch.

Deise Musashi

I'll sharpen them for you if you want?

Pay for the return postage and I'll sort them out and return them, lots of the videos on my youtube are of members knives, from Boards, and Irish Shooter.

I'll even finish by hand stropping on fine Corinthian leather (or an old belt, or a piece of denim, it's just a wick to hold the polishing compound)

LaVail

I use this kit >> Lansky Deluxe Knife Sharpening System


Here's a video on how to use it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlI5PaXsfOk

keane2097

Anything to be said for one of these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Global-Worlds-Sharpener-Classic/dp/B001DXVL6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461844311&sr=8-1&keywords=knife+sharpener

arian

Long but useful article on sharpening on eGullet:
forums.egullet.org/topic/26036-knife-maintenance-and-sharpening/

Zascar

keane2097 wrote: »

Anything to be said for one of these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Global-Worlds-Sharpener-Classic/dp/B001DXVL6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461844311&sr=8-1&keywords=knife+sharpener

I just bought one of these today actually and posted in the Amazon bargains thread - from everything I've been reading they seem brilliant. Sure an expert with a wet stone will do a better job but this is the best one for most people.

http://www.anysharp.com/products/worlds-best-knife-sharpener/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGA0DRYrghI

Deise Musashi

Anything to be said for one of these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Gl...nife+sharpener

They can put a coarse edge back on a knife, but they wear away the steel so fast it's a knife murderer.
I have an old Sabatier Carbone my Mother used a similar device on, I'll post a pic when I can get it uploaded.

Zascar

Deise Musashi wrote: »

They can put a coarse edge back on a knife, but they wear away the steel so fast it's a knife murderer.

I have a good few old knives I never use any more but used to love them - this will at least bring them back to life. I'm not going to go down the wet stone route - but at least this will make them usable again - and then can I just use a Steel for honing them after?