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Unusual rules question??

  • 21-12-2015 5:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭


    Was playing yesterday for the first time in 7 weeks. On my previous outing at the start of November I got absolutely soaked and on the 15th while driving off my driver slipped out of my hands and flew off into nearby wind bushes. Given I was soaked, it was getting dark and I was seriously p'd off I decided to leave it in the bushes.

    Fast forward to yesterday I retrieved said driver from the bushes.Standing on the next tee the debate ensued as to whether I could use the driver or not. I decided not to to be sure but would be keen to know the correct ruling.

    FYI I had 12 clubs starting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Wind bushes? :confused:
    The player must not start a stipulated round with more than fourteen clubs. He is limited to the clubs thus selected for that round, except that if he started with fewer than fourteen clubs, he may add any number, provided his total number does not exceed fourteen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Gorse bushes locally known wind bushes ...thanks


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    You can use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭paulos53


    4-4 - Maximum of Fourteen Clubs

    a. Selection and Addition of Clubs
    The player must not start a stipulated round with more than fourteen clubs. He is limited to the clubs thus selected for that round, except that if he started with fewer than fourteen clubs, he may add any number, provided his total number does not exceed fourteen.
    The addition of a club or clubs must not unduly delay play (Rule 6-7) and the player must not add or borrow any club selected for play by any other person playing on the course or by assembling components carried by or for the player during the stipulated round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Not 100% but I'm fairly sure you can add a club mid round as long as you're under the quota....the fourth tee is beside our car park, the driver has been retrieved on occasion from the boot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    PARlance wrote: »
    Not 100% but I'm fairly sure you can add a club mid round as long as you're under the quota....the fourth tee is beside our car park, the driver has been retrieved on occasion from the boot.

    I thought and have done the same at our 7th...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    kieran. wrote: »
    I thought and have done the same at our 7th...

    "However, if you begin with fewer than 14, you may add clubs during a round as long as no delay is caused and as long as the club(s) added are not borrowed from another player"

    From http://golf.about.com/cs/rulesofgolf/a/rfaq_14clubs.htm?utm_source=emailshare&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mobilesharebutton2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,116 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    7 weeks!

    That must be some piece of crap driver that nobody took position of it since then :eek:


    Well either that or you really burried it in there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Seve OB wrote: »
    7 weeks!

    That must be some piece of crap driver that nobody took position of it since then :eek:


    Well either that or you really burried it in there!


    It was DEEP in the gorse and diffenitly not the type growth you'd go looking for a ball in !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    kieran. wrote: »
    Gorse bushes locally known wind bushes ...thanks

    Ahh! Whin bushes. Norn Iron nomenclature for gorse. You from the north?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    Seve OB wrote: »
    7 weeks!

    That must be some piece of crap driver that nobody took position of it since then :eek:


    Well either that or you really burried it in there!

    That's what I was thinking too, I'd have been back down for it the following day, good or bad driver!!!

    Would it have got damaged with the weather as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Ahh! Whin bushes. Norn Iron nomenclature for gorse. You from the north?

    Yes the south of the north !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking too, I'd have been back down for it the following day, good or bad driver!!!

    Would it have got damaged with the weather as well?

    I would normally be the same but weather was just tortential the following few fays and then there was a family death in the family so digging though gorse wasn't a priority.

    It seems to have weathered well, the grip seems as I remember it. It was found standing vertically with the head down and in very dense covering.... Which is as good as I could have hoped for.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    kieran. wrote: »
    I would normally be the same but weather was just tortential the following few fays and then there was a family death in the family so digging though gorse wasn't a priority.

    It seems to have weathered well, the grip seems as I remember it. It was found standing vertically with the head down and in very dense covering.... Which is as good as I could have hoped for.

    Sorry for your loss Kieran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    Sorry for your loss Kieran.

    Cheers..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Dtoffee


    You can of course add to your original 12 clubs up to a total of 14, but as I understand it ..... if you 'borrow' a club from a compeditor, then you must keep it for the rest of the round and he/she cannot take it back (you can of course give it back afterwards).

    In relation to getting a club from elsewhere ...... is there some rule regarding leaving the golf course ? which begs the question ... is the car park considered park of the course ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Dtoffee wrote: »
    You can of course add to your original 12 clubs up to a total of 14, but as I understand it ..... if you 'borrow' a club from a compeditor, then you must keep it for the rest of the round and he/she cannot take it back (you can of course give it back afterwards).

    In relation to getting a club from elsewhere ...... is there some rule regarding leaving the golf course ? which begs the question ... is the car park considered park of the course ?
    The rule quoted above goes on to say that replacing the club shouldn't take too long. No time given but I suspect a gallop back to the car park from the middle of the course would take a bit of time unless you've a racing golf cart!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Ronney


    Always wondered about this rule.

    Could you technically start with 1 club and add clubs as needed up to the 14 limit?

    Not at all in "the spirit of the game" but could gain an advantage with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Ronney wrote: »
    Always wondered about this rule.

    Could you technically start with 1 club and add clubs as needed up to the 14 limit?

    Not at all in "the spirit of the game" but could gain an advantage with it

    What would be the advantage?

    You'd be teeing off on the first with your putter or else putting with your driver.............or whichever takes your fancy:pac:

    Surely having a full bag of clubs is a bigger advantage than starting with half a bag and then adding as you go along


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    Paulzx wrote: »
    Surely having a full bag of clubs is a bigger advantage than starting with half a bag and then adding as you go along

    I was also thinking what Ronney was saying is right, in that it offers an advantage in delaying making decisions on what clubs you carry and let situation you get into dictate what clubs you need.

    Start the game with a slot or two free, maybe just leave out the 60wedge or/and 5wood until you actually need them, give them and a few other clubs to little Edward who's following you around with a second bag of clubs. Oops, 5th hole you pulled your approach, horrible lie under the tree nowhere to stand. This is bad, starting to look like you might be fuc.. "ED! Come over here. I'll take that left handed 8i off you now".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Genius, now where do I buy a little Edward?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I think we're a few clubs shy of the full quota here lads.


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