Plastic seats on city buses/trams

Stephen15

Why doesn't DB, BE and the Luas use these on their services. I know people say they would be less comfortable but are equally as comfortable as you don't have a big metal bar sticking into you when you're sitting down. The individual seats on the newer buses are good too as you now have a direct line between you and the person sitting next to but they're worse for fat people. I know there aren't any real advantages for the travelling public but for CIE there would cost savings on the long run as these these are vandal-proof, sturdier and easier to clean then the current ones.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Stephen15 wrote: »

Why doesn't DB, BE and the Luas use these on their services. I know people say they would be less comfortable but are equally as comfortable as you don't have a big metal bar sticking into you when you're sitting down. The individual seats on the newer buses are good too as you now have a direct line between you and the person sitting next to but they're worse for fat people. I know there aren't any real advantages for the travelling public but for CIE there would cost savings on the long run as these these are vandal-proof, sturdier and easier to clean then the current ones.

On luas, sure. On plenty of subway systems they are used well for short journeys. (Thanks to perfectly flat rails etc)

On road is a different story and would not work.

As it is with road operators it's either cloth or leather but always cushion underneath which makes it comfortable(ish).

So i want you to imagine travelling on a dublin bus at 50kph on a plastic seat as it goes down a bad road of potholes etc. Would you still want a plastic seat then ?

Same if your on bus eireann for 2 - 3 hours on crap country roads on a plastic seat ?

I dont think so.

Stephen15

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Same if your on bus eireann for 2 - 3 hours on crap country roads on a plastic seat ?

I meant on their city services in cork, Galway and Limerick

Victor

Another thing is graffiti. Providing a large flat surface, as opposed to a cloth, multi-coloured surface would make things easier for vandals.

devnull

Been on Plastic seats in Madrid, no thanks.

tabbey

From 1972 CIE had railcars gutted & converted to push-pull operation and fitted with plastic seats, in the expectation of stopping seat slashing.

The outcome was the opposite. They were so disagreeable to the public, that antisocial passengers went out of their way to vandalise them. The plastic seats were burned with cigarette lighters.

Give the public a quality product and it will be respected more. Insult them with rubbish, it will be treated as rubbish.

dogmatix

Back in the late 70's CIE tested wooden bench seats on some of the buses in Dublin - thankfully they did not roll them out to the full fleet of buses. I tried a few of the benches on the #86 to Dundrum - they where not comfy at all.