Car tracker installed?

Buck

Hi all, how would I know if there was a car tracker installed on my car?
My boss seems to know a lot about my movements but I don't know how??? I've not been slacking off but he knows where I've been and what time I've left etc.
He has shown me the tracking system that is installed on the iPhone but surely he cannot access that without physically having the phone, can he?
B

_Brian

I'd say he can track your phone online.

My understanding is he needs to inform you if the vehicle is tracked also.

28064212

Buck wrote: »

He has shown me the tracking system that is installed on the iPhone but surely he cannot access that without physically having the phone, can he?
B

Is it a work phone? Then yes, he can

Atlantic Dawn

Is the car your car? It would be a big invasion of privacy for him to install it on your car.

Buck

Yep it's a work phone, so he can track it remotely?
Will have to keep an eye on that.
Thanks folks.

Buck

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is the car your car? It would be a big invasion of privacy for him to install it on your car.

No it's a work car, I was guessing that it could have been installed before I got the car.

Buck

_Brian wrote: »

I'd say he can track your phone online.

My understanding is he needs to inform you if the vehicle is tracked also.

Any idea how I can turn it off? or is it possible to turn it off so that he cannot track it?

Atlantic Dawn

Buck wrote: »

Any idea how I can turn it off? or is it possible to turn it off so that he cannot track it?

You would likely get the sack if you turned it off, it's company property and they are tracking you on company time. Most likely it's covered in your contract as to why they use them.

If the phone is used for personal use outside work too I would get a new number and turn the phone off when not at work.

Buck

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You would likely get the sack if you turned it off, it's company property and they are tracking you on company time. Most likely it's covered in your contract as to why they use them.

If the phone is used for personal use outside work too I would get a new number and turn the phone off when not at work.

Makes sense...
Thanks

Atlantic Dawn

Buck wrote: »

Makes sense...
Thanks

There are blockers you can get that would kill on transmission within the area of the car but these are illegal and your boss would realize straight away it was being used.

dublincelt

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You would likely get the sack if you turned it off, it's company property and they are tracking you on company time. Most likely it's covered in your contract as to why they use them.

If the phone is used for personal use outside work too I would get a new number and turn the phone off when not at work.

Not strictly true. If your car has a tracking system installed you should be informed. The last company that I worked for tried to implement a tracking system on my company car. I contacted data protection to find out my rights. Basically as my contracted hours where 08:30 - 17:30 Monday to Friday, the company could only track me during these hours. A car tracking device is required to also have a "privacy" switch for out of hours use. The company subsequently decided therefore not to implement it. I had nothing to hide by the way, the work was being done and business was going well. This was just something that management thought might be a good idea for whatever reason. You need to look into this, as if your vehicle is indeed track, Buck, you should be informed

mickdw

He is just tracking the phones movements.
You could possibly install location faker app to get around this.
You could then show the phone as being at any random location.
Every time you leave office, you could set location to wherever you like

dublincelt

Buck wrote: »

Any idea how I can turn it off? or is it possible to turn it off so that he cannot track it?

If you have an iPhone, just turn off "location services"

ION08

dublincelt wrote: »

Not strictly true. If your car has a tracking system installed you should be informed. The last company that I worked for tried to implement a tracking system on my company car. I contacted data protection to find out my rights. Basically as my contracted hours where 08:30 - 17:30 Monday to Friday, the company could only track me during these hours. A car tracking device is required to also have a "privacy" switch for out of hours use. The company subsequently decided therefore not to implement it. I had nothing to hide by the way, the work was being done and business was going well. This was just something that management thought might be a good idea for whatever reason. You need to look into this, as if your vehicle is indeed track, Buck, you should be informed

We're talking about tracking the phone not the car

ION08

OP, I think you have been watching too many Sci-fi movies!

He can't "be tracking your car" if it is your personal vehicle and not a company car.

As somebody else mentioned, he would need to physically interfere with your car in order to get the tracker device fitted and enabled.

Also, the fact that he has shown you "the tracking system installed on his iPhone" would indicate that this is not some secret to spy on you, in which case why didn't you just ask for clarification when he showed you this "tracking system"

He probably showed you the "Find my iPhone" App which can track your phone in case you lose it or it gets stolen, however, this only works with your personal iTunes account/password so he wouldn't be able to "track" you unless he he knew your password.

Careful with those tinfoil hats now!

fletch

ION08 wrote: »

OP, I think you have been watching too many Sci-fi movies!

He can't "be tracking your car" if it is your personal vehicle and not a company car.

As somebody else mentioned, he would need to physically interfere with your car in order to get the tracker device fitted and enabled.

Not necessarily

mordeith

If the OP isn't abusing the company phone/car then what does it matter if it's being tracked?

ION08

fletch wrote: »

Not necessarily

Must be one helluva stupid boss... "Hey look at this nifty iPhone tracking app which I use to track a GPS spying device which I illegally fitted to your personal vehicle"

shedweller

I've seen a faraday wallet for just this purpose.

ForstalDave

ION08 wrote: »

Must be one helluva stupid boss... "Hey look at this nifty iPhone tracking app which I use to track a GPS spying device which I illegally fitted to your personal vehicle"

Its a company car though so it is perfectly legal for them to stick a tracking device on it, Though if they should tell him is another matter

listermint

Hi OP,

The boss is under no obligation to tell you if the work vehicle that you have access to is tracked or not.

As far as the law is concerned the vehicle you have access to is an asset of the company and is formally allowed to be tracked.


Systems like trackers are in essence 'fair' what i mean by that is that you are being treated the same as your colleagues in the office in a sense they can be seen but you cant be seen physically taking jaunts off to do christmas shopping on the bosses dime.

Not saying that is what you are doing, but you are being treated the same as your colleagues when using the work vehicle during work hours.

listermint

dublincelt wrote: »

Not strictly true. If your car has a tracking system installed you should be informed. The last company that I worked for tried to implement a tracking system on my company car. I contacted data protection to find out my rights. Basically as my contracted hours where 08:30 - 17:30 Monday to Friday, the company could only track me during these hours. A car tracking device is required to also have a "privacy" switch for out of hours use. The company subsequently decided therefore not to implement it. I had nothing to hide by the way, the work was being done and business was going well. This was just something that management thought might be a good idea for whatever reason. You need to look into this, as if your vehicle is indeed track, Buck, you should be informed

Doesnt become a work vehicle then so hope BIK is being paid. Also many of these solutions have privacy modes that comply with data protection laws so that can be eliminated for set hours of the day.

ION08

ForstalDave wrote: »

Its a company car though so it is perfectly legal for them to stick a tracking device on it, Though if they should tell him is another matter

Ahh sorry! I misread and thought the OP said it was not a company car.

milltown

ForstalDave wrote: »

Its a company car though so it is perfectly legal for them to stick a tracking device on it, Though if they should tell him is another matter

Exactly.

If the business has a fleet of company vehicles it may be a condition of the fleet insurance policy that the vehicles have trackers fitted. I know this is the case in my wife's company.

(To clarify, when I say a condition I mean that a good discount is given on the fleet insurance due to the company having trackers fitted to all vehicles)

mel123

listermint wrote: »

Hi OP,

The boss is under no obligation to tell you if the work vehicle that you have access to is tracked or not.

As far as the law is concerned the vehicle you have access to is an asset of the company and is formally allowed to be tracked.

This information is completely incorrect. Your employer must inform you if there is a tracker in your car, if not there is defiantly a case to bring them to court. I know this for a fact through work.
I cant say for definite if the issue with the phone is the same, but i imagine it is no different.

OP if its a work phone turn it off when you are finished work, and leave it on your hall table until the next morning, turn it back on, and off you go. Problem solved?

robtri

listermint wrote: »

Hi OP,

The boss is under no obligation to tell you if the work vehicle that you have access to is tracked or not.

As far as the law is concerned the vehicle you have access to is an asset of the company and is formally allowed to be tracked.


Systems like trackers are in essence 'fair' what i mean by that is that you are being treated the same as your colleagues in the office in a sense they can be seen but you cant be seen physically taking jaunts off to do christmas shopping on the bosses dime.

Not saying that is what you are doing, but you are being treated the same as your colleagues when using the work vehicle during work hours.

just so wrong, if tracking devices being used, your employer has to tell you...
the car is an asset but you are not and collecting of your data (your movements) is controlled very tightly by data protection and you must be informed.

keithclancy

fletch wrote: »

Not necessarily

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biko

Legalities aside, if you have issue with this then speak to your boss.
Ask other employees and check their phones for tracker apps, the boss probably monitor others too. If you all protest together maybe things will change.

There is a power in a union..