AHI and BVD testing

cow man

I was shown a text from AHI which said
To get Negative Herd Status and access lower cost testing in 2016 this animal needs to be BVD tested.
Does anyone know what this is all about???

tanko

cow man wrote: »

I was shown a text from AHI which said
To get Negative Herd Status and access lower cost testing in 2016 this animal needs to be BVD tested.
Does anyone know what this is all about???

It just means that if you test that animal for BVD and its negative you have no BVD Pi's in your herd ie your herd is BVD free at the moment. You still have to test all calves next year all the same.
What type/age of animal is it?

blue5000

I think you have to test your stock bull. All your cows have probably had a bvd free calf and all your younger stock passed as calves. So the bull is the only one left that hasn't been tested.

Kovu

Never got one of those texts but am assuming she/he hasn't been BVD tested.

From the AHI site-

From 1st January 2015 these herds will become eligible to qualify for Negative Herd Status (NHS) if they can satisfy the following requirements:

1- Completion of a minimum of three years of tissue tag testing on calves born into the herd;

2- Existence of a negative BVD status for every animal currently in the herd (on the basis of either ‘direct’ or ‘indirect’ results);

3-Absence of any animal(s) deemed to be persistently infected with BVD virus from the herd in the 12 months preceding the acquisition of NHS.

Actually if you read this it'll probably clear it up for you- http://animalhealthireland.ie/news.php?id=104

I'd hazard a guess that the animal was bought in untested and hasn't had a calf for you yet or else it's your stock bull?

cow man

tanko wrote: »

It just means that if you test that animal for BVD and its negative you have no BVD Pi's in your herd ie your herd is BVD free at the moment. You still have to test all calves next year all the same.
What type/age of animal is it?

5 year-old cow. And what's with the cheaper testing?

tanko

cow man wrote: »

5 year-old cow. And what's with the cheaper testing?

Has she had any calves in your herd? There's a discount on testing with some labs for negative status herds. It feck all tho.

whelan2

cow man wrote: »

I was shown a text from AHI which said
To get Negative Herd Status and access lower cost testing in 2016 this animal needs to be BVD tested.
Does anyone know what this is all about???

We got that too, its the stock bull

farawaygrass

cow man wrote: »

5 year-old cow. And what's with the cheaper testing?

I got text yesterday too and rand up about it. I depends who you send your samples too already but it could come down to 2.40 from 3.50. Not asaving worth talking about really, but might help in the long run to have a bvd negitive status. You have to order the bvd tag yourself

Sam Kade

I though this bvd testing was only for 3 years and if you did it voluntary in 2012 that would be counted as 1 year. Next year will be my 5th year doing it.

marknjb

we got the same for our bull is there a way to test him other than tagging him

Milked out

marknjb wrote: »

we got the same for our bull is there a way to test him other than tagging him

You can blood him as well but vet would have to do it

marknjb

thanks

whelan2

marknjb wrote: »

we got the same for our bull is there a way to test him other than tagging him

Thinking of ordering 2 tags for bull so if we mess up with one we have another

SKIPPY150

Got the same text and when i rang them they said its because in my case the heiffer had never had a calf registered to her, as for the cheaper testing Im no wiser than you

patsy_mccabe

Quick question - Does BVD testing of young calves continue into next year, 2018?

I have to order tags and no point ordering BVD ones that I don't need.

tanko

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Quick question - Does BVD testing of young calves continue into next year, 2018?

I have to order tags and no point ordering BVD ones that I don't need.

Unfortunately, yes it does.

Limestone Cowboy

tanko wrote: »

Unfortunately, yes it does.

Is their still pi's showing up? didn't hear of any locally in a long time.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Is their still pi's showing up? didn't hear of any locally in a long time.

There's a good few counties free of BVD, first was Carlow, iirc. Testing will continue until the herd with the last PI is deemed clear, I imagine.

Then we go onto the next programme:(

Buford T. Justice XIX

Just found the map with the cases found this year.

http://animalhealthireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/pi_alive_jan2013_to_nov30_2017.jpg

patsy_mccabe

€2.90 now with Enfer if you have herd free BVD status.

SuperTortoise

Just ordering a few tags for the coming season, so BVD continues this year? what about the EID tags, are they compulsory this year or are the normal tags fine?

Buford T. Justice XIX

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Just ordering a few tags for the coming season, so BVD continues this year? what about the EID tags, are they compulsory this year or are the normal tags fine?

Normal tags are fine. There will be a push again soon for EID tags but atm they are only used for on farm ID.

alps

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just found the map with the cases found this year.

http://animalhealthireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/pi_alive_jan2013_to_nov30_2017.jpg

It's disgraceful....

It shows a complete contempt and lack of consideration to the widespread farming industry, both from biosecurity and financial point of views.....look at the cost on your farm this year at 2.90 per calf born(plus postage)....that is considerable needless cost...

Those who hold on to PI' s are assholes, but those in charge of this scheme, all those who have an input or detract from an input, are incapables....

jaymla627

alps wrote: »

It's disgraceful....

It shows a complete contempt and lack of consideration to the widespread farming industry, both from biosecurity and financial point of views.....look at the cost on your farm this year at 2.90 per calf born(plus postage)....that is considerable needless cost...

Those who hold on to PI' s are assholes, but those in charge of this scheme, all those who have an input or detract from an input, are incapables....

It's a money spinner for ahi and their buddies pure and simple, with brucellosis testing done away with they needed something to fill the void and this is it, from the start of the scheme any farmer that didn't dispose of a pic within three weeks should of been locked up under the same rules as tb and any sfp monies stopped if any bvd animial was present on farm when payments where been made.....
Still vaccinate here for bvd despite having had no pi's because naive herds are ticking time bombs, and the fact bvd can live in slurry/dung for up to ten years is another curveball

Keepgrowing

Just for some balance

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037811351100650X

greysides

AHI BULLETIN
NATIONAL BVD ERADICATION
PROGRAMME- KEY MESSAGES FOR 2018
The enhanced programme measures introduced for 2017 have delivered further progress in the national BVD eradication
programme, with significant improvements being made in reducing the extent to which PIs are retained on farm. The
number of Persistently Infected (PI) animals born in 2017 is less than one sixth of that seen in 2013, the first year of
the compulsory programme, generating an overall saving to farmers in excess of €75 million, and over 70,000 herds
have attained a negative herd status (NHS). For the first time, some counties have had periods during which they have
contained no known PIs. These very encouraging results indicate that complete eradication is well within reach, with a
target of 2020. Outlined below are key messages about the programme in 2018, including measures required to further
accelerate progress towards eradication.
1. Tissue tag testing remains compulsory for 2018. A list of suppliers of approved tags and of the laboratories
approved to test each tag type is available from by clicking here.
2. Tissue tag-test calves as soon as possible after birth. Where positive or inconclusive results are obtained,
consult your veterinary practitioner for advice on whether to remove the calf immediately or to conduct a
re-test. Where a decision is taken to re-test the calf, this must be done by means of a blood sample only (this
also applies to testing of dams). DAFM will meet the costs of the visit by the herd’s veterinary practitioner and of
testing the calf (and dam if sampled at the same time).
3. DAFM supports for removal of PI calves will continue at the following rates:
BEEF HERDS: €185 for beef breed animals removed with a registered date of death on AIM within 3 weeks of the
initial test, reducing to €60 if removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test.
DAIRY HERDS: Dairy and dairy cross heifers: €150 if removed within 3 weeks of the initial test, reducing to €35 if
removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test. €30 for removal of bull calves within 3 weeks of the initial test.
For full terms and conditions see click here.
4. Veterinary investigations of all herds with PI calves born in 2018. All herds with PI calves born in 2018 are
required to undergo an investigation funded through the Rural Development Plan, and delivered by a trained
private veterinary practitioner, within 3 months of the date of the first positive result. For details contact Animal
Health Ireland on 071 967 1928 or click here.
5. Restriction of herds retaining PI calves and notification of neighbours. DAFM will automatically restrict
movements into and out of herds that retain PI animals for more than five weeks after the date of the initial test
(in the absence of a recorded date of death on AIM). Ensure PIs are removed in time to allow the death to be
recorded before 5 weeks elapse. Restrictions are automatically lifted following removal of PIs. Neighbouring
herds will also be notified, advising them to take appropriate biosecurity measures to minimize the risk of
accidental introduction of infection.
6. Test animals of unknown status to obtain NHS. Around 11,000 herds contain animals that either have not produced
a negative calf or which do not have a valid result recorded on the database. The presence of these animals
prevents herds attaining NHS and accessing lower cost testing.
7. Review biosecurity to minimize the risk of accidental introduction of BVD virus, leading to the birth of PI calves,
through movement of animals, people (including the farmer) or equipment or across boundaries.

annubis

anyone using any of the other labs outside of enfer, only noticed when i got tags of cormac tagging they sent out some pre addressed envelopes for some of the other labs

Buford T. Justice XIX

annubis wrote: »

anyone using any of the other labs outside of enfer, only noticed when i got tags of cormac tagging they sent out some pre addressed envelopes for some of the other labs

We use a local lab here in Kerry. They charged more for the Cormac samples, 30c iirc, but all will be the same price this year. They have drop off points in local marts as well and collected once or twice a week.

Limestone Cowboy

annubis wrote: »

anyone using any of the other labs outside of enfer, only noticed when i got tags of cormac tagging they sent out some pre addressed envelopes for some of the other labs

Using fba labs in waterford.

alps

greysides wrote: »

AHI BULLETIN
NATIONAL BVD ERADICATION
PROGRAMME- KEY MESSAGES FOR 2018
The enhanced programme measures introduced for 2017 have delivered further progress in the national BVD eradication
programme, with significant improvements being made in reducing the extent to which PIs are retained on farm. The
number of Persistently Infected (PI) animals born in 2017 is less than one sixth of that seen in 2013, the first year of
the compulsory programme, generating an overall saving to farmers in excess of €75 million, and over 70,000 herds
have attained a negative herd status (NHS). For the first time, some counties have had periods during which they have
contained no known PIs. These very encouraging results indicate that complete eradication is well within reach, with a
target of 2020. Outlined below are key messages about the programme in 2018, including measures required to further
accelerate progress towards eradication.
1. Tissue tag testing remains compulsory for 2018. A list of suppliers of approved tags and of the laboratories
approved to test each tag type is available from by clicking here.
2. Tissue tag-test calves as soon as possible after birth. Where positive or inconclusive results are obtained,
consult your veterinary practitioner for advice on whether to remove the calf immediately or to conduct a
re-test. Where a decision is taken to re-test the calf, this must be done by means of a blood sample only (this
also applies to testing of dams). DAFM will meet the costs of the visit by the herd’s veterinary practitioner and of
testing the calf (and dam if sampled at the same time).
3. DAFM supports for removal of PI calves will continue at the following rates:
BEEF HERDS: €185 for beef breed animals removed with a registered date of death on AIM within 3 weeks of the
initial test, reducing to €60 if removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test.
DAIRY HERDS: Dairy and dairy cross heifers: €150 if removed within 3 weeks of the initial test, reducing to €35 if
removed in the 4th or 5th week after the initial test. €30 for removal of bull calves within 3 weeks of the initial test.
For full terms and conditions see click here.
4. Veterinary investigations of all herds with PI calves born in 2018. All herds with PI calves born in 2018 are
required to undergo an investigation funded through the Rural Development Plan, and delivered by a trained
private veterinary practitioner, within 3 months of the date of the first positive result. For details contact Animal
Health Ireland on 071 967 1928 or click here.
5. Restriction of herds retaining PI calves and notification of neighbours. DAFM will automatically restrict
movements into and out of herds that retain PI animals for more than five weeks after the date of the initial test
(in the absence of a recorded date of death on AIM). Ensure PIs are removed in time to allow the death to be
recorded before 5 weeks elapse. Restrictions are automatically lifted following removal of PIs. Neighbouring
herds will also be notified, advising them to take appropriate biosecurity measures to minimize the risk of
accidental introduction of infection.
6. Test animals of unknown status to obtain NHS. Around 11,000 herds contain animals that either have not produced
a negative calf or which do not have a valid result recorded on the database. The presence of these animals
prevents herds attaining NHS and accessing lower cost testing.
7. Review biosecurity to minimize the risk of accidental introduction of BVD virus, leading to the birth of PI calves,
through movement of animals, people (including the farmer) or equipment or across boundaries.

AH I continue to pussyfoot around this issue....or are being forced to...


"These very encouraging results indicate that complete eradication is well within reach"....

Complete eradication has been within reach, so would they ffs REACH and REMOVE those existing PI animals.......talk about bollixxxxxxxng around....