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2016 Golf Digest Ireland Rankings
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04-12-2015 4:38pm#1
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From memory, the only one that I could describe as 90 degrees is the 12th which is a really memorable hole and the 13th would be the next sharpest at about 60 degrees, but the rest are all relatively open.BigChap1759 wrote: »I'm all for the odd dog leg, but there are more dog legs than not on the non-par3 holes and they are pretty much 90 degrees.
I agree on the walk from 9 to 10, it's a fair hike alright but the 10th isn't that steep really. It's about 20m in about 300 yards which isn't excessive. It never struck me as such anyway.BigChap1759 wrote: »The walk from the 9th to the 10th is mad and then the 10th is basically straight up a hill at a crazy incline.
That's one of my favourite holes. The drop is actually only 30m but it's a real knee wobbler to stand there and hope you've got your yardage right. As for running forward to see where your ball lands, you just play it by earBigChap1759 wrote: »For me it's just too up and down - there is a par three with about a 100 foot drop which would be fine except for the fact that you can't see the green when you are hitting your shot - you need to run forward to keep sight of your ball.
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Last post on Macreddin then I'll leave it
I had a quick look on the website and they have a flyover of each hole - I wanted to check that my memory wasn't deceiving me.
http://www.macreddingolfclub.com/course/hole01.asp
1,2,8,9,11,12,13,15,16 & 18 could all be described as dog legs, I just think that's too many for one course.0 -
BigChap1759 wrote: »Last post on Macreddin then I'll leave it
I had a quick look on the website and they have a flyover of each hole - I wanted to check that my memory wasn't deceiving me.
http://www.macreddingolfclub.com/course/hole01.asp
1,2,8,9,11,12,13,15,16 & 18 could all be described as dog legs, I just think that's too many for one course.
Off the top of my head Fota has 8 doglegs, Killarney (Killeen) has 10 and Adare (hotel course and No.1 Parkland in Ireland) also has 10, that could be described as doglegs, using your logic they are all lacking in available land and aren't proper golf courses, it's hard to argue with that kind of logic, but it's safe to say you're in the minority holding that opinion and it's contrary to what's true.0 -
Hoof Hearted2 wrote: »Off the top of my head Fota has 8 doglegs, Killarney (Killeen) has 10 and Adare (hotel course and No.1 Parkland in Ireland) also has 10, that could be described as doglegs, using your logic they are all lacking in available land and aren't proper golf courses, it's hard to argue with that kind of logic, but it's safe to say you're in the minority holding that opinion and it's contrary to what's true.
No truth, just opinions.........and you know what they're like 0 -
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Golfgorfield wrote: »a dogleg to me is a severe change of direction not a hole that has a shape per-say
Go to Lee Valley for dog legs 0 -
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Hoof Hearted2 wrote: »Off the top of my head Fota has 8 doglegs, Killarney (Killeen) has 10 and Adare (hotel course and No.1 Parkland in Ireland) also has 10, that could be described as doglegs, using your logic they are all lacking in available land and aren't proper golf courses, it's hard to argue with that kind of logic, but it's safe to say you're in the minority holding that opinion and it's contrary to what's true.
Druid's Glen has 10, Carton House has 10 and The K Club has 12. All courses that wouldn't have had a shortage of land when built.
I'm not sure really if there's any connection between available land and number of doglegs. Macreddin has plenty of scope to lengthen the course if it was needed (It's not imo). I dug out the scorecard last night and there's a map of the course on the back. The following holes have scope to be extended: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18.
Without moving greens, the following could be extended: 3, 6, 7, 13, 14, 16 and 17. There's also room to change the layout of a number of holes including the 1st, 7th, 9th, 10th, 16th and 18th.
None of which I would do of course, but I just don't see the correlation between doglegs and space.
The main point of all this discussion though is it's position at 100 in the rankings. It just doesn't belong that low in the rankings. One of the things that struck me when I played it was the feeling on some holes that you're out there on your own. 0 -
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yipsnomore wrote: »Go to Lee Valley for dog legs
Ruins a good course, if those 90deg holes were improved it would be v good, its laughable how bad they are.0 -
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yipsnomore wrote: »Just out of interest what would a new green cost to build.
It's a vastly long piece of string
I've seen costs online in the US stated to be in the region of $60,000 to $75,000 to build a new green on an existing course. The main cost being that of causing minimum disruption.
You need a lot of sand and a fair bit of equipment. If time is not an issue and the green is being built 'off piste'; i.e. in a position outside the existing course boundaries then the costs can come way down. As little as a couple of grand if you already have sandy soil and on course labour. Anything after that depends on cost of material, labour, machinery etc. It's quite labour intensive too.
There's a WikiHow here.0 -
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Thanks for reminding me that I need to head over and play Moate next year. Very keen to try out the new 8th and 9th holes 0 -
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charlieIRL wrote: »Same here, I've actually got a green fee voucher to use as well if ya fancy it?
I do!
baby due tomorrow week though, so I'm chained up to the kitchen sink for the forseeable. Give me plenty of notice, lol 0 -
In fairness Slave1 it didn't only cost this much!:p We had a few fundraisers and donations to cover it but I'm not going into specifics here. A lot of the work was done on a voluntary basis and our members are rightly very proud of our work and are looking forward to reaping the rewards in 2016 and for years to come. I'll let you all know when the 8th opens for play so you can all come and see for yourselves. 0 -
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