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Copy of Will

  • 25-11-2015 8:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭


    Can any body advise if it is possible to get a copy of a Will made by a third party?


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    I should hope not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    Thats not particularly helpful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭BlueLass


    If the person is deceased then yes, it is possible to view their will. Obviously if the person is still alive then, unless they want to show you, then the answer is not.

    Edit to add that once probate has been granted then a will is a matter of public record and you can apply to the probate office for a copy of the probated will.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Stanford wrote: »
    Thats not particularly helpful

    Can i see your will?

    I am a third party.

    Unless your named in the will. I really dont think you should be entitled to see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    The person is deceased


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    My question is a legal one and not a matter of opinion, is there a legally valid way of obtaining a copy of a Will given that Probate has been taken out and hence must be on record somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    If they are dead and probate is extracted the will is available for a fee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    Thank you, can you please advise how I might go about obtaining a copy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    It is possible if the testator is dead and grant of probate has been granted. If the testator is alive , then it's up to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    The testators are still alive, I had heard somewhere that there is a central repository for wills for which probate has been extracted, somebody else mentioned the National Archives to me.

    How do newspapers get details of the wills of private individuals and are able to name estate values and those who inherit under the will?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Stanford wrote: »
    Thank you, can you please advise how I might go about obtaining a copy?

    http://www.courts.ie/Courts.ie/Library3.nsf/PageCurrent/D6536B4B00396842802575AF003E0ECC?opendocument&l=en


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    If they are dead, then yes the newspapers can pay a fee to view the will - as a previous poster mentioned.

    If the testators are alive, you cannot view their Will unless they allow you to do so.

    Is there a particular reason why you wish the Will? With more details, posters may be able to offer further advice.

    Edit:
    The person is deceased
    The testators are still alive

    Which is it? dead or alive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    Many thanks for that useful link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    My wife and I were legally separated in 2007 and I am paying her considerable maintenance every month in respect of my adult children who are no longer dependant on her as they are both in University but under 23 so I must continue maintenance payments until,they reach the age of 23.

    Her father passed away recently and I believe he left her a substantial inheritance leaving her financially independant, I am curious to see a copy of the Will to confirm if this is actually the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Yes, if grant of probate has been granted, the Will should be on public record. The link provided above should contain all the contact information you require.

    In you circumstance I'd recommend you seek proper legal advice from a solicitor before stopping any maintenance payments.

    Best of luck OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    Thank you, there is no question of stopping payments, any variation to payments under the Separation agreement would need to go back to the District Court for a ruling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Stanford wrote: »
    My wife and I were legally separated in 2007 and I am paying her considerable maintenance every month in respect of my adult children who are no longer dependant on her as they are both in University but under 23 so I must continue maintenance payments until,they reach the age of 23.

    Her father passed away recently and I believe he left her a substantial inheritance leaving her financially independant, I am curious to see a copy of the Will to confirm if this is actually the case.
    If her father passed away "recently", no grant of probate may have been taken out yet. It can take months.

    Once a grant of probate has been taken out, for a fee you can get a copy of the grant of probate from the probate office. Assuming he made a will, there'll be a copy of the will attached to the grant.

    Note that that will tell you what he said in the will, but it won't tell you how much she got, or can expect. The typical will will say something like so much to my goddaughter, so much to the Vincent de Paul, my painting of "The Infant Samuel at Prayer" to my cousin Jasper, and the rest of the estate to be divided equally between my three children. Simply reading the will will give you no clue as to how much a one-third share in "the rest of the estate" is actually worth.

    You can apply to court for a variation of the maintenance order. In those proceedings it's possible to have your wife give an account of her financial situation. This should disclose any inheritance she has received. Note, though, that if your father-in-law died "recently", she may as yet have received nothing at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Stanford wrote: »
    My wife and I were legally separated in 2007 and I am paying her considerable maintenance every month in respect of my adult children who are no longer dependant on her as they are both in University but under 23 so I must continue maintenance payments until,they reach the age of 23.

    Her father passed away recently and I believe he left her a substantial inheritance leaving her financially independant, I am curious to see a copy of the Will to confirm if this is actually the case.

    She may be reading this forum and may give you a copy!

    It is a small country; be careful what you post.

    Your solicitor will advise you


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