Tubbs filling in for Wogan

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http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/ryan-tubridy-covering-for-ill-terry-wogan-on-his-bbc-radio-2-slot-34197231.html

Fair play to Tubbs/Noel Kelly.
I think he struggles on BBC Radio 2, with so many top class personalities on there - clearly the editorial staff at the BBC don't think so.

Atlantic Dawn

Is he doing it for free?

AndyBoBandy

I like Wogan, I used to love his Radio 2 breakfast show anytime I was working in the U.K.

I don't like Tubridy however, he just doesn't come across as a likeable character.

TheHomeService

I hope Terry is ok.

L1011

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is he doing it for free?

Not a hope in hell. Why there's any reason you'd expect him to either I don't know, though.

NIMAN

It must be great to have a job where your employer lets you head off an work for another company, and probably get paid by both of them.

Expunge

Well, in fairness, it is a show on a Sunday in another country.
As long as he turns up for gigs as per his contract - there is no issue.

Atlantic Dawn

L1011 wrote: »

Not a hope in hell. Why there's any reason you'd expect him to either I don't know, though.

, just the way OP said Fair Play to Tubbs, I assummed perhaps he knew something that wasn't in the article.

AndyBoBandy

I'm sure Tubbers is thinking long term, and eventually getting 'the move' to the BEEB

"He'll be such a loss"

L1011

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is he doing it for free?

NIMAN wrote: »

It must be great to have a job where your employer lets you head off an work for another company, and probably get paid by both of them.

He's a contractor not an employee - most of Noel Kelly's "talent" would be. Can do what he likes outside contracted hours.

SEPT 23 1989

his is not fit to lick Terry's boots

Expunge

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

, just the way OP said Fair Play to Tubbs, I assummed perhaps he knew something that wasn't in the article.

Nah. I just meant fair play to him because I feel he's not really BBC Radio 2 standard. There are far more talented radio presenters for that station within spitting distance of the Radio 2 studios without having to send to Ireland for a Wogan replacement.
It's almost as if Racial/national quotas are being adhered to. Just how it feels to me, that's all.

PeterTheEighth

NIMAN wrote: »

It must be great to have a job where your employer lets you head off an work for another company, and probably get paid by both of them.

First off it's ridiculous that RTE allow him to do this. He has a full time contract with RTE, he's is extremely well paid, and both his radio show and the TV show need an awful lot of work. Plus RTE have REALLY been good to Tubridy. There were a lot of other better people around when the Late Late job was going and they gave it to him, so he should be grateful to them and show them a bit of loyalty.

Secondly, I find Tubridy's shameless pandering to the BBC to be embarrassing. I swear, if they were one sheep short for an episode of One Man And His Dog, Tubridy would be on the boat over quicker than you could say Jiminy Cricket.

jimd2

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

First off it's ridiculous that RTE allow him to do this. He has a full time contract with RTE, he's is extremely well paid, and both his radio show and the TV show need an awful lot of work. Plus RTE have REALLY been good to Tubridy. There were a lot of other better people around when the Late Late job was going and they gave it to him, so he should be grateful to them and show them a bit of loyalty.

Secondly, I find Tubridy's shameless pandering to the BBC to be embarrassing. I swear, if they were one sheep short for an episode of One Man And His Dog, Tubridy would be on the boat over quicker than you could say Jiminy Cricket.

Summarised here EXACTLY what I was thinking and articulated better than I ever could.

How ca Ryan possibly be fresh for his monday morning show after a Friday night and now a sunday gig in another country. Surely being fresh and well pepared is a major aspect to presenting it well.

LeinsterDub

L1011 wrote: »

He's a contractor not an employee - most of Noel Kelly's "talent" would be. Can do what he likes outside contracted hours.

Most of the big names "contractors" and run their own "production companies" it's a scam

AndyBoBandy

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Most of the big names "contractors" and run their own "production companies" it's a scam

And as such, can/do claim back every and any expense they incurr, and reduce the amount of tax they pay,

So, food, fuel, home etc... They probably claim it all back.

Banjoxed

I like Tubs better on the BBC simply because he tones down the "Look where the Irish are! Aren't we a great little country!" Shtick there.

Terrontress

If he does move to the BBC, I'd imagine he'll take a pay cut.

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AndyBoBandy wrote: »

And as such, can/do claim back every and any expense they incurr, and reduce the amount of tax they pay,

So, food, fuel, home etc... They probably claim it all back.

:rolleyes: Stick to commenting on his talents and not speculating on issues you seem to have little understanding.

shockwave

jimd2 wrote: »

Summarised here EXACTLY what I was thinking and articulated better than I ever could.

How ca Ryan possibly be fresh for his monday morning show after a Friday night and now a sunday gig in another country. Surely being fresh and well pepared is a major aspect to presenting it well.

Maybe hes broadcasting from Dublin im sure RTE would let him use a studio

PeterTheEighth

Here's a picture of Tubridy meeting the head of the BBC to discuss terms and conditions.

PeterTheEighth

shockwave wrote: »

Maybe hes broadcasting from Dublin im sure RTE would let him use a studio

So now RTE have to give him free access to their studio, and pay a producer to facilitate his moonlighting. They should sit him down and say: "Ryan, you have a job here. The Late Late Show is terrible and you should be putting every hour in to making it better or we will give it to somebody else. If you want to go to work for the BBC, then resign and F**K off over there full time."

Banjoxed

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

So now RTE have to give him free access to their studio, and pay a producer to facilitate his moonlighting. They should sit him down and say: "Ryan, you have a job here. The Late Late Show is terrible and you should be putting every hour in to making it better or we will give it to somebody else. If you want to go to work for the BBC, then resign and F**K off over there full time."

Tubs doesnt produce the Late Late. The responsibility for the tidal wave of glurge on it - all those "heartwarming" pieces about individuals and their illnesses instead of holding a mirror up to the shortcomings of Irish society - lies elsewhere.

L1011

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

So now RTE have to give him free access to their studio, and pay a producer to facilitate his moonlighting. They should sit him down and say: "Ryan, you have a job here. The Late Late Show is terrible and you should be putting every hour in to making it better or we will give it to somebody else. If you want to go to work for the BBC, then resign and F**K off over there full time."

The BBC pay for producer/technician fees if they use another broadcasters studios.

More Music

I don't know is it jealousy or what? Why does it bother some people so much to the point you can see steam emerging from their ears.

Some of the gems:

"It must be great to have a job where your employer lets you head off an work for another company".

Most "broadcasting stars" in Ireland and the UK aren't employees of the broadcaster. Their company is contracted to provide a service.
Anyway once it's not in direct competition it's not usually a problem. The most recent example I can think of is the BBC Sports commentator Conor McNamara. BBC let him go to TV3 for the Rugby World Cup.

"How can Ryan possibly be fresh for his monday morning show...."

You'd swear it was every weekend. I'm sure his body will cope with a few weekends cover.

And of course when somebody suggested maybe he doesn't have to do all that travelling and maybe it's just a walk into Montrose for him.

"So now RTE have to give him free access to their studio, and pay a producer to facilitate his moonlighting."

I can assure you if the BBC use a third party studio or service they insist on paying for it, even if it's only for 15 mins.

BTW, hope Terry Wogan gets well soon and Tubs doesn't have to cover.

mrsdewinter

More Music wrote: »

I don't know is it jealousy or what? Why does it bother some people so much to the point you can see steam emerging from their ears.

Some of the gems:

"It must be great to have a job where your employer lets you head off an work for another company".

Most "broadcasting stars" in Ireland and the UK aren't employees of the broadcaster. Their company is contracted to provide a service.
Anyway once it's not in direct competition it's not usually a problem. The most recent example I can think of is the BBC Sports commentator Conor McNamara. BBC let him go to TV3 for the Rugby World Cup.

"How can Ryan possibly be fresh for his monday morning show...."

You'd swear it was every weekend. I'm sure his body will cope with a few weekends cover.

And of course when somebody suggested maybe he doesn't have to do all that travelling and maybe it's just a walk into Montrose for him.

"So now RTE have to give him free access to their studio, and pay a producer to facilitate his moonlighting."

I can assure you if the BBC use a third party studio or service they insist on paying for it, even if it's only for 15 mins.

BTW, hope Terry Wogan gets well soon and Tubs doesn't have to cover.

Fair enough, I'll bite. I'm not Tubs's greatest fan, I'll admit, and this is none of my business but at a stage of his life when he has a fantastic job (2 fantastic jobs), why does he feel the need to hop over to the BBC at the drop of a hat?
Like, with a young family and a thriving career here, does he see himself moving to London to take up a full-time job in the Beeb sometime?
Maybe he's being told that this is good for his profile. All I'd take from it is that he's becoming the Fionn Davenport of the BBC: people will think he lives in a little cupboard in Broadcasting House, just waiting for somebody to ring in sick.

Expunge

I'm coming at it from a place of amazement.
I listened to a fair bit of it this morning.
To me the guy has little to zilch charisma or presence on air. The traffic lady and newsreader this morning on BBC R2 during his show had better delivery and personality about them for Gawd's sake.

That's all very well on RTE Radio One with other 'light' presenters such as Ray D'Arcy, Damien O'Reilly (PPI Speech Broadcaster of the Year :eek:) Etc. and Derek Fookin Mooney.

But this is, by a country mile, the most successful personality driven music radio service Europe has ever known (except for Radio Luxembourg) - home of Terry Wogan, Chris Evans, Steve Wright, Ken Bruce. Whatever you might think of them they are big personalities. It's amazing - miraculous even - that Ryan Tubridy is considered suitable to work in that company.

There must be talent and agents all over London wondering how the hell that guy managed to get on there - apart from the fact that he's a prominent Irish TV presenter on Irish TV.

And that's why I say fair foooks to you Tubbs!!!

LeinsterDub

mrsdewinter wrote: »

Fair enough, I'll bite. I'm not Tubs's greatest fan, I'll admit, and this is none of my business but at a stage of his life when he has a fantastic job (2 fantastic jobs), why does he feel the need to hop over to the BBC at the drop of a hat?
Like, with a young family and a thriving career here, does he see himself moving to London to take up a full-time job in the Beeb sometime?
Maybe he's being told that this is good for his profile. All I'd take from it is that he's becoming the Fionn Davenport of the BBC: people will think he lives in a little cupboard in Broadcasting House, just waiting for somebody to ring in sick.

Because when rte come a knocking for contract renewals he can point to his high demand in the UK and demand more money

AndyBoBandy

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Because when rte come a knocking for contract renewals he can point to his high demand in the UK and demand more money

A whip round and we'll all buy his ticket.

I'd love if RTÉ had the balls to knock back any demand he made with a lesser counter offer,

jimceart

Live and let live. He would not be in RTE unless be was doing his job to their satisfaction.

The_Wanderer

What was it Ryan said? Irish people are "wingclippers".

A word that sums up this thread rather well. A bit of freelancing never did anybody any harm.

PeterTheEighth

The_Wanderer wrote: »

What was it Ryan said? Irish people are "wingclippers". A word that sums up this thread rather well. A bit of freelancing never did anybody any harm.

It's nothing about wingclipping. The problem I have with him is that he is terrible at his job yet RTE keep promoting him. And they WE are expected to pay the half million to him for being consistently mediocre.


I mean even one of the guests on the show last year said to him "Man, I feel really sorry for you, you are so nervous". It's nothing about wingclipping or begrudgery, it's about getting value for money. To be honest, I'm thinking of ringing Conor Pope about the whole thing.

padd b1975

Going against the general consensus here, but I think Tubs slots in quite well with the BBC Radio 2 vibe, it's not at all hard to fathom why he keeps being invited back. He is a solid stand in and a safe pair of hands, bottom line.