Is there life after death?

bnt · 30-11-2015 06:43PM

If there was life after death, we wouldn't call it "death", would we? I don't know, people can't seem to grasp the most basic concepts ...

Hagar7 · 30-11-2015 09:01PM

ScumLord wrote: »

It is complex, and while we probably do take in a lot of information, it's not great. The brain has to do a lot of processing. There's actually something approaching a half second of delay between something happening in the real world and your brain processing it into a reaction. It takes that long for your brain to take in the information, process it and turn it into conscious thought.

The image that comes off the human eye is terrible. Only one tiny spot in the centre is actually in focus, underneath that there's a much larger blind spot, then of course the whole image is upside down. Your brain has to flip the image, remove the blind spot, take the tiny spot of focus and make up a focused image out of that tiny focused data. And then it has to do it all again for the second eye. You're actually living in your brains virtual representation of the outside world. Given all that it's not at all surprising people see weird things from time to time. It's so easy for the brain to make a hash of that process it's actually amazing it doesn't happen more often.

I think it's also likely that people in the past that didn't have a scientific thought basis probably lived in a very different virtual representation of reality. I wouldn't be surprised if they did see supernatural things because their brain would have been much more accepting of that social conditioning.

A very good post bud,well presented.👍

The_Valeyard · 30-11-2015 10:07PM

bnt wrote: »

If there was life after death, we wouldn't call it "death", would we? I don't know, people can't seem to grasp the most basic concepts ...

I just view death as the ending of this fleshy watery sack that has been my vessel and moving onto another form

But that's just me, to each their own.

Kivaro · 30-11-2015 11:57PM

Hagar7 wrote: »

A very good post bud,well presented.👍

He would know all about the brain and stuff; being the mod of Zombie Survival.

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:02AM

mattP wrote: »

I believe that we have a soul which is divine, and moves on to another place after our body dies. That's what I thought anyway. Recently I've been wondering how is it possible if our soul is divine that we are able to feel pain, or that emotions can have physical effects on the body. I dunno, I do believe in life after death, but Im just curious of the logistics...

Like a castle with a head under it's arm ?

nozzferrahhtoo · 01-12-2015 08:12AM

Hagar7 wrote: »

You quoted Sam Parnia,may I ask what you think of the skeptic,James Randi if you don't mind.

A bit of subject change, but I do not mind being asked. I have actually had the good fortune to meet and communicate with Randi on a couple of occasions. I find him to be very intelligent. And, like Parnia, he understands how to build a methodologically sound study or tests. Or to interpret those of others. He has an eye for detail, fraud, trickery, illusion, that many others do not and this has allowed him to see through the works of many charlatans.

He is also just, when you meet him, a terribly nice guy. Though I have heard from people who work very closely with him that he is prone to the occasional mood swing. But aren't we all, as your posts above demonstrate

And in his talks on things like homeopathy he has a talent many other people lack. Humor. He does not just get on stage and go on an angry preaching rant, but he can make his educational talks on such subjects funny and enjoyable too. Which makes him a great educator. Humor is a very powerful tool when used right.

Why do you ask?

Hagar7 · 04-12-2015 10:37AM

Hahaha,I put my mood swings down to being a Cancerian,I've never quite studied it and often wonder why it's accurate to a T,strange indeed.
Anyhow,Mr Randi,like you say is a very clever guy and decent bloke too by all accounts,but I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/CROSSexam9.htm

Kev W · 04-12-2015 11:15AM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Hahaha,I put my mood swings down to being a Cancerian,I've never quite studied it and often wonder why it's accurate to a T,strange indeed.
Anyhow,Mr Randi,like you say is a very clever guy and decent bloke too by all accounts,but I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/CROSSexam9.htm

Oh my God that's the most hilariously one-sided excuse for an "interview" I've ever read! I honestly thought it was going to turn out to be a satire!

What are your thoughts on Randi, Hagar?

captbarnacles · 04-12-2015 11:20AM

Personal verification

As an additional avenue of research, I followed the teachings of several advanced mediums and myself became clairaudient. I was then in the fortunate position of being able to obtain personal direct confirmation of what I had learned from people I trusted who had passed on.

Through David Thompson’s materializations experiments I was able to actually converse repeatedly with those who had died decades ago, like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Arthur Findlay, and again get cross corroboration on what I had learned.

It gets better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Duncan

http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/chapter11.html

To be fair those are some creepy looking ghosts

ScumLord · 04-12-2015 12:05PM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Anyhow,Mr Randi,like you say is a very clever guy and decent bloke too by all accounts,but I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/CROSSexam9.htm

That's an utterly ridiculous interview. The interviewer is ridiculous. Why does he have to keep shouting words? If the interview happened like that it must have been hilarious to watch.

Duggy747 · 04-12-2015 12:16PM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Anyhow,Mr Randi,like you say is a very clever guy and decent bloke too by all accounts,but I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/CROSSexam9.htm

It's like it's one of those conversations one would lay out in their head while having a shower, it's awful. Why would you even link that?

crybaby · 04-12-2015 01:01PM

Not a chance of it, when you die that's the end.

Skoop · 04-12-2015 01:06PM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Hahaha,I put my mood swings down to being a Cancerian,I've never quite studied it and often wonder why it's accurate to a T,strange indeed.
Anyhow,Mr Randi,like you say is a very clever guy and decent bloke too by all accounts,but I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/CROSSexam9.htm

You realise this isn't a transcript of something that actually happened right? It's the guy imagining what he believes an interview (cross-examination) with Randi would go like. It's fiction. Read the pre-amble.

kylith · 04-12-2015 01:15PM

Skoop wrote: »

You realise this isn't a transcript of something that actually happened right? It's the guy imagining what he believes an interview (cross-examination) with Randi would go like. It's fiction. Read the pre-amble.

Ahahahahaha! Brilliant!

Also, as a cancerian, not that that means anything, I take exception to your statement that people born in June/July are prone to mood swings. I reckon I'm fairly level in mood and generally cheerful.

robbiezero · 04-12-2015 01:25PM

lukesmom wrote: »

Nozzferrahhtoo - if I have learnt anything from this thread it's that you definitely need to get out more my friend.

Are you mad?
Someone anonymous might post something about religion or the afterlife on the Internet while he was out and it would not get carefully dissected and rebutted.

Kev W · 04-12-2015 03:28PM

Skoop wrote: »

You realise this isn't a transcript of something that actually happened right? It's the guy imagining what he believes an interview (cross-examination) with Randi would go like. It's fiction. Read the pre-amble.

OH MY GOD THAT'S AMAZING!
I can't believe I missed that!

Utdfan20titles · 04-12-2015 03:35PM

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I think in my past life I must of been a English teacher because youre use of "tae" instead of "to" makes me want to throw a Chalkboard Eraser at you're illiterate head.

God help your (not you're) poor students. They must be illiterate today if they were following your (not you're) guidance.

Also, must have not "must of".

English teacher my arse

dd972 · 04-12-2015 04:24PM

Socrates (the chain-smoking doctorate 1982 midfield general) had this sussed;

“To fear death, gentlemen, is no other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know. No one knows whether death may not be the greatest of all blessings for a man, yet men fear it as if they knew that it is the greatest of evils.”

The Randy Riverbeast · 04-12-2015 04:57PM

More than likely no, there's nothing to suggest there is.

Hagar7 · 04-12-2015 08:01PM

Kev W wrote: »

Oh my God that's the most hilariously one-sided excuse for an "interview" I've ever read! I honestly thought it was going to turn out to be a satire!

What are your thoughts on Randi, Hagar?

I already stated my opinion,clever but still not clever enough to be brought down a peg or two.

Kev W · 07-12-2015 08:22AM

Hagar7 wrote: »

I already stated my opinion,clever but still not clever enough to be brought down a peg or two.

I'm curious, what were we supposed to learn from the "interview" you posted?

nozzferrahhtoo · 08-12-2015 09:10AM

Hagar7 wrote: »

I'd like to see what your views on the man himself is especially after reading this.

Not sure why a fictitious interview that never actually happened has to do with my opinion of the man in question. My opinion remains unchanged. Of him anyway. My opinion of one or two others has been somewhat lowered however.

Hagar7 · 08-12-2015 11:12PM

Lol.&#55357;&#56838;&#55357;&#56838;&#55357;&#56838;

Kev W · 09-12-2015 08:33AM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Lol.��

Can you expand on that at all?

M.T. Cranium · 09-12-2015 09:21AM

Yes there is and it lasts forever so pack a lunch.

Hagar7 · 11-12-2015 07:38PM

Kev W wrote: »

Can you expand on that at all?

Yes,I'm outvoted.:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SIzmWolaFw

Fleawuss · 11-12-2015 07:51PM

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Yes there is and it lasts forever so pack a lunch.

What's the weather forecast for it then?

Hagar7 · 11-12-2015 07:55PM

Fleawuss wrote: »

What's the weather forecast for it then?

Sunny in Heaven,very very hot in Hell.:D

Fleawuss · 11-12-2015 07:56PM

Hagar7 wrote: »

Sunny in Heaven,very very hot in Hell.:D

And the chart? How ya Evelyn!

mynameis905 · 12-12-2015 02:06AM

All evidence would point to an eternal lack of consciousness after the cessation of brain activity so no, I don't believe in life after death. I feel a certain disappointment to hear grown adults speaking of childish notions of 'heaven' and 'hell'. You get four score and ten years if you're lucky - there are no second chances, no returns and nothing remains after the final curtain call. Make it count

Is there life after death?

Comments