Best Coddle in Dublin

marvin42

yes, i know, the very best is possibly your mums, but
in which Pub/Restaurant etc.. can I find a good coddle in Dublin?

Mesrine65

O'Neill's Pub...still not a patch on me ma's though

http://www.oneillsbar.com/index.php

Gavin "shels"

Heard Matt The Rashers do a good one! If it has anything other than water, potatoes, skinless sausages and back bacon AVOID!!!

Avada

Gavin shels wrote: »

Heard Matt The Rashers do a good one! If it has anything other than water, potatoes, skinless sausages and back bacon AVOID!!!

Ah here! It needs onions and carrots.

Trond

Gravediggers does a lovely one apparently

Realt Dearg Sec

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Heard Matt The Rashers do a good one! If it has anything other than water, potatoes, skinless sausages and back bacon AVOID!!!

If it's half as good as their breakfast rolls you won't go far wrong. What a spot, lived in kimmage for years there until I moved abroad, loved going there after a night of sauce.

ProudDUB

Avada wrote: »

Ah here! It needs onions and carrots.

There is a special place in hell for ANYONE who puts ANYTHING orange into a coddle ! :mad:

Avada

ProudDUB wrote: »

There is a special place in hell for ANYONE who puts ANYTHING orange into a coddle ! :mad:

No!

I reserve that privelige for any ******* who adds celery.

fleet_admiral

I put leeks and turnip into mine, as well as onion carrots and spuds. Each to their own, no two recipes for coddle are the same
I wouldnt dare put celery in though

Paulzx

As a born and bred Dub I believe coddle is the food of the devil. Manky stuff. Raw mickeys all round!!!!:D

I await the expected abuse:p

Gavin "shels"

Avada wrote: »

Ah here! It needs onions and carrots.

Onion, correct!

Carrots are not part of a coddle, at least not a proper Dublin coddle!

ProudDUB

Onions are mandatory. But they can't actually LOOK like onions once it is cooked. You should be boiling the holy bejayzus out of the ingredients so much, that the onions dissolve completely into the finished product. Granted, that means that the sauce winds up looking like gloopy, wall paper paste....but boy oh boy do the onions add flavour. Am drooling now just thinking about it.

Cienciano

Gavin shels wrote: »

Heard Matt The Rashers do a good one! If it has anything other than water, potatoes, skinless sausages and back bacon AVOID!!!

Often thought of ordering it, but once you're in there it's pretty much impossible to order anything other than the famous breakfast (no liver)

humberklog

Davy Byrne's do a half daycent one.

Carrots in a coddle? No, no, no. The only thing of colour in a coddle is the pale pink of the boiled rashers.

Day Lewin

Yurgh, carrots NOT in coddle. They make it watery and sweetish. All wrong.
This is a classic dish that carries its own dignified economy:
Potatoes, onions, rashers, sausages. Coddled in just enough water to moisten, not a big wet splash.
A handful of pot-herbs is the only correct Dublin seasoning: a possible garnish of brown sauce is added by some.
That is absolutely all!

Gavin "shels"

Always funny with the reactions to non-Dubs on coddle - my dad is from Mullingar and can't even bear to look at it, his forte is stew. While my mam is a 3rd generation (at least) Dublin 8 inner citier and loves it like myself! Telling a South American lad, a Monaghan lad and a Spanish lad the other week what coddle was and the looks on their faces was priceless!

ProudDUB

Lots of Dubs hate it too. For what it represents, as much as for how it tastes or looks.

My father was about as Dub as it is possible to get, but he had bad memories of non stop coddle as a child, when money was tight. So it was banned from our dinner table when he married my mother. He couldn't even stand the smell of it. As the aroma lingers in the air, the Mammy couldn't even whip a sneaky one up (she loved it too) when he was out. He was a lovely, lovely man, but God, he was an out & out Nazi when it came to the coddle, so I only ever got it on my birthday. I think I looked forward to it more than the cake or the prezzies.

Confucius say

It's absolutely vile. Peasant food. And I'm a bleedin' workin' class dub. Tasteless mushy slodge. Tbh I never knew what it was until people started telling me it was something people in Dublin ate. None of my friends or family would have eaten this growing up in Dublin, and a lot are from the north inner city so I don't know where the bloody idea of coddle even came from.
Irish stew is also vile. Thanks for reading.

Paulzx

ProudDUB wrote: »

Lots of Dubs hate it too. For what it represents, as much as for how it tastes or looks.

My father was about as Dub as it is possible to get, but he had bad memories of non stop coddle as a child, when money was tight. So it was banned from our dinner table when he married my mother. He couldn't even stand the smell of it. As the aroma lingers in the air, the Mammy couldn't even whip a sneaky one up (she loved it too) when he was out. He was a lovely, lovely man, but God, he was an out & out Nazi when it came to the coddle, so I only ever got it on my birthday. I think I looked forward to it more than the cake or the prezzies.

I like your Dad:)

ElleEm

I only eat the non meat bit of coddle (spuds, carrotts and onions). I call it coddle soup, it's lovely with bread. My boyfriend loves coddle so I make it for him and freeze it so he can have it when he wants. My da told me once about the freaks who put barley or tomatoes in coddle- even I know how wrong that is!

Dodge

Confucius say wrote: »

Peasant food

Most of the great dishes of the world started out as peasant food.

Coddle isn't one of them

Nothing wrong with peasant food. Just never had a good coddle.

ProudDUB

The gas thing about coddle being dismissed because it's "peasant food" is that the ingredients are things that we eat every day. Spuds, rashers, sausages, onions...& even the things that the weirdos put in, like carrots & celery....are all things that we eat every day. So how can it be peasant food?

If you don't like the look of it, fair enough. Boiled sausages aren't exactly Picasso's when it comes to appearances. If you don't like the taste of it, fair enough. Coddles can be quite salty, due to the fatty rashers used. It may not be everyone's cup of chai latte tea. But the ingredients are still every day things. It's not like you are being asked to put tripe & drisheen, or lambs livers into your gob, or any of the other offal that de poor folk were stuck with back in the day, as it was all they could afford.

So food snobs of Ireland...Get Over Yourselves !

(Sorry Dad.)

Realt Dearg Sec

ProudDUB wrote: »

The gas thing about coddle being dismissed because it's "peasant food" is that the ingredients are things that we eat every day. Spuds, rashers, sausages, onions...& even the things that the weirdos put in, like carrots & celery....are all things that we eat every day. So how can it be peasant food?

If you don't like the look of it, fair enough. Boiled sausages aren't exactly Picasso's when it comes to appearances. If you don't like the taste of it, fair enough. Coddles can be quite salty, due to the fatty rashers used. It may not be everyone's cup of chai latte tea. But the ingredients are still every day things. It's not like you are being asked to put tripe & drisheen, or lambs livers into your gob, or any of the other offal that de poor folk were stuck with back in the day, as it was all they could afford.

So food snobs of Ireland...Get Over Yourselves !

(Sorry Dad.)

The irony being that these days you'd pay top prices in some w**ky Michelin star restaurant to eat liver and tripe. Peasant food? Sure there'd be no such thing as French, Spanish, or Italian cuisine without the peasants. We'd all be eating white bread and chicken breasts if it wasn't for the peasantry of Europe, including Ireland.

uch

Frank Ryan's on Queen Street used to do a savage bowl of coddle, Haven't been in there in years so don't know if they still do

Sacksian

I wouldn't consider "peasant food" to be a pejorative term.

Many of the most recognisable dishes from Italian, French, Indian and other famed food cultures are peasant dishes. It just means that they're traditional dishes made, historically by the working classes, from accessible and cheap ingredients.

In that respect, I think the idea that there are (or should be) definitive recipes for a lot of these meals is a bit of a stretch, when they would have been made from whatever was lying about - and only becomes an issue when they stop being real 'peasant' food i.e. put in recipe books or sold in restaurants. There is naturally going to be variations even from family to family.

I ate it a lot during the winter growing up, and, yes, our 1980s coddle included carrots.

Confucius say

Well peasant food is good in countries with world famous cuisines like Italy and France! Ireland's peasant food is like the peasant food of an already peasant cuisine! Well we don't really have a cuisine anyway.
My ma used to feed me some kind of disgusting stew with carrots and potatoes and bits of beef in it nearly every day in the 80s and I hated her for it. Only forgiven her recently and I'm 35 now.
Also this thing of mashed up bread, milk, and sugar. Jesus Ma leave it out!!

Realt Dearg Sec

Confucius say wrote: »

Also this thing of mashed up bread, milk, and sugar. Jesus Ma leave it out!!

Did you grow up in prison?

power pants

people still eat sausages in this day and age?

Speedsie

Confucius say wrote: »

Also this thing of mashed up bread, milk, and sugar. Jesus Ma leave it out!!

Ah, yes, 'goody', sounds vile, but my dad always wanted it if he was ill. I think it was a treat from his young days.

Mesrine65

ProudDUB wrote: »

The gas thing about coddle being dismissed because it's "peasant food" is that the ingredients are things that we eat every day. Spuds, rashers, sausages, onions...& even the things that the weirdos put in, like carrots & celery....are all things that we eat every day. So how can it be peasant food?

If you don't like the look of it, fair enough. Boiled sausages aren't exactly Picasso's when it comes to appearances. If you don't like the taste of it, fair enough. Coddles can be quite salty, due to the fatty rashers used. It may not be everyone's cup of chai latte tea. But the ingredients are still every day things. It's not like you are being asked to put tripe & drisheen, or lambs livers into your gob, or any of the other offal that de poor folk were stuck with back in the day, as it was all they could afford.

So food snobs of Ireland...Get Over Yourselves !

(Sorry Dad.)

I'm such a peasant, I love all of the above too

not yet

Plenty of candy sauce, turns it really dark but jaysus it's nice..

deni20000

Why anyone would eat the vile stuff is beyond me which is why nobody outside Dublin ever eats it.

ProudDUB

Sacksian wrote: »

I wouldn't consider "peasant food" to be a pejorative term.

Many of the most recognisable dishes from Italian, French, Indian and other famed food cultures are peasant dishes. It just means that they're traditional dishes made, historically by the working classes, from accessible and cheap ingredients.

In that respect, I think the idea that there are (or should be) definitive recipes for a lot of these meals is a bit of a stretch, when they would have been made from whatever was lying about - and only becomes an issue when they stop being real 'peasant' food i.e. put in recipe books or sold in restaurants. There is naturally going to be variations even from family to family.

I ate it a lot during the winter growing up, and, yes, our 1980s coddle included carrots.

That makes perfect sense in a perfectly logical way....but peoples food likes and dislikes can be a very emotive thing. They often don't have anything to do with the properties of the disliked dish, but because people associate it with something unpleasant, or just over exposure to it. In the case of my Dad, it was his childhood when money was tight.

I am currently watching a great Rick Stein documentary, where he travels from Venice to Istanbul. He covers the regional dishes of all the areas that he travels through. Most of them are simple, rustic food, using very basic ingredients - your classic "peasant food." He uses that phrase a lot, but you can tell that he not being insulting in any way, nor is he looking down on them.

But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Italian/Croatian villages that he travels through, have younger residents that would turn their noses up at some of the dishes that Rick Stein is being served up by their grandparents and raving over.... because in their mind, they are peasant dishes. It's all about context.

marvin42

Thank for all the replies and insights. Last Sunday i went to Matt the Rashers and got my first Coddle ever, and I am loving it! Cant understand why it's not more famous/offered in Dublin.
Next on list is Colcannon!

miamee

ElleEm wrote: »

I only eat the non meat bit of coddle (spuds, carrotts and onions). I call it coddle soup, it's lovely with bread. My boyfriend loves coddle so I make it for him and freeze it so he can have it when he wants. My da told me once about the freaks who put barley or tomatoes in coddle- even I know how wrong that is!

My mother always put tomatoes in the coddle for a bit of colour...sure they'd be boiled away to nothing apart from a few bits of skin anyway. I haven't had coddle in a long time but I wouldn't mind a bowl of it now after reading the thread :pac: It was a weekly staple in our house in the 80s.

Extraplus

The Bakehouse on Bachelor's Walk and at the top of Camden St do a lovely coddle.

power pants

its pretty hard not to make a decent one tbh

think of the ingredients and the preparation

Hootanany

It has to be the worst food I have ever tasted yuk

power pants

thats why so many places probably choose not to serve it, will look bad on them particularly to non irish people eating there

uch

power pants wrote: »

thats why so many places probably choose not to serve it, will look bad on them particularly to non irish people eating there

Yet most will eat some unrecognisable shíte while on holidays and think nothing of it.
The reason it's not widely served IMO is because most don't know how to cook a decent version

power pants

its not rocket science though tbh. It may be a delicacy in some peoples eyes but thinking people dont know to "cook a decent version" is very absurd

humberklog

power pants wrote: »

its not rocket science though tbh. It may be a delicacy in some peoples eyes but thinking people dont know to "cook a decent version" is very absurd

It sure isn't socket science but it's hardly absurd thinking people can't cook a decent one.
Bloody Nora sure there's people on here that do like coddle and then mentioning carrots, candy sauce and tomatoes as ingredients:eek:.

The trick isn't what goes into a coddle, it's knowing what doesn't go into it that's important.

Slattsy

**** it, im making a pot this weekend for myself.

My folks' always made it with carrots though, so i'll be going down that route too :P

ProudDUB

Slattsy wrote: »

**** it, im making a pot this weekend for myself.

My folks' always made it with carrots though, so i'll be going down that route too :P

You are dead to me now.

Dead.

As in deader than Mayo's chances of ever winning an All Ireland.

And that's pretty damm dead !!!

:mad::mad::mad:

power pants wrote: »

its not rocket science though tbh. It may be a delicacy in some peoples eyes but thinking people dont know to "cook a decent version" is very absurd

It is and it isn't. It's a fairly simple dish - in terms of ingredients and preparation. But it is precisely because it is so simple, that if you fcuk up one of the steps, or fcuk up one of the ingredients (like I did recently, when I made a batch using new Cyprus potatoes, that had a horrible "soapy" taste to them,) then you fcuk up the entire dish. There is nothing else you can use, to mask or hide your little boo boo.

My granny was a brilliant baker. Without blinking an eye, she could whip up the most complicated cakes and pies, that would make that Mary Berry wan weep tears of joy. But give her something simple to make, like a scone or a plain Victoria sponge & the end result was usually something you wouldn't feed a dog. 'Tis the same with coddle.

Slattsy

ProudDUB wrote: »

You are dead to me now.

Dead.

As in deader than Mayo's chances of ever winning an All Ireland.

And that's pretty damm dead !!!

:mad::mad::mad:

I canhy control how i was reared (my Father was a trained chef too!!)

Some very harsh words there

ProudDUB

Slattsy wrote: »

I canhy control how i was reared (my Father was a trained chef too!!)

Some very harsh words there

Just start saying your prayers that Aidan O'Shea doesn't read this thread & maybe we can emerge from all this without too much collateral damage. The carrots have to go though.

Yakkyda

Baxterds! Haven't had it years, now craving it. The aul lad used to make it roughly one or twice a week. It's true it's a "peasant dish" but done right, it's class, whatever the **** ye have, goes in. That's why the ingredients are what they are, it's all people would have to hand. And yep, carrots were used by the aul fella. Celery? Nah. Barley? Sometimes, yeah. The aul lad worked on a farm and around harvest time he'd bring some home, lovely in it when it's that fresh. Tomato?!? That's just taking the piss right there.

Might get the ingredients and badger the aul bollox to whip up a pot at the weekend.

The coachmans at the airport apparently does a fine one, and afterwards ye can wash it down with some very creamy Guinness. Fcuk, there's me dinner and pints for this evening... Roll on six o clock.

rubadub

power pants wrote: »

people still eat sausages in this day and age?

No, nobody eats them, those 6 shelves packed full of sausages in tesco are just for a fucking laugh...

power pants

rubadub wrote: »

No, nobody eats them, those 6 shelves packed full of sausages in tesco are just for a fucking laugh...

or for people with a very very poor diet

Yakkyda

Jaysus ye must think people do be atein them morning, noon and night goin' on like that.

I've a fantastic diet, quinoa, gluten free bread, free range(non battery) eggs, kobe beef, fair trade fruit AND coffee, 100% certified organic vegetables, handpicked by buxom maidens...

Still love an aul durty fry a couple a times a week all the same, the works.

Let the air outta yer head will ya ffs.

not yet

Yakkyda wrote: »

Jaysus ye must think people do be atein them morning, noon and night goin' on like that.

I've a fantastic diet, quinoa, gluten free bread, free range(non battery) eggs, kobe beef, fair trade fruit AND coffee, 100% certified organic vegetables, handpicked by buxom maidens...

Still love an aul durty fry a couple a times a week all the same, the works.

Let the air outta yer head will ya ffs.

And the ride, don't forget the ride....