meal feeding weanlings

danjoe

Hi we have a bunch of weanlings weighing between 200 and 300kgs, they are being started on silage /rape and possibly 1kg of rolled barley plus minerals, how much soya 48% can I add to diet ? Tia

raypallas

Have you got the silage tested? I would start there and work off that, soya is very high in protein so you may need very little.

danjoe

raypallas wrote: »

Have you got the silage tested? I would start there and work off that, soya is very high in protein so you may need very little.

Yes Ray,it came back at 70 dmd, as regards the amount of soya needed I'm looking to see how much I can give them to get them growing a frame

CloughCasey1

danjoe wrote: »

Yes Ray,it came back at 70 dmd, as regards the amount of soya needed I'm looking to see how much I can give them to get them growing a frame

For the meal alone you would be looking at your 1kg rolled barley with aporox 11% protien and 0.25kg soya with 48%. The barley is 80% of the mix and the soya 20. So by getting a percentage of the protien from the percentage of the mix above you would be looking at 18.4% overall protein in that mix (I'm open to correction on my maths). Not accounting for what will be out if the silage. Don't think adding any more than that would be worthwhile.

danjoe

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

For the meal alone you would be looking at your 1kg rolled barley with aporox 11% protien and 0.25kg soya with 48%. The barley is 80% of the mix and the soya 20. So by getting a percentage of the protien from the percentage of the mix above you would be looking at 18.4% overall protein in that mix (I'm open to correction on my maths). Not accounting for what will be out if the silage. Don't think adding any more than that would be worthwhile.

Thanks cc, that's exactly what I was looking for

Tomjim

in plain language this means that for evry 1 kg of rolled barley you could feed 1/4 kg of soya?

bogman_bass

You could go lower. .2kg of soya added to 1 kg of barley will still be 17.2%

CloughCasey1

Tomjim wrote: »

in plain language this means that for evry 1 kg of rolled barley you could feed 1/4 kg of soya?

Ya plain language but now he knows how to up the percentage or go with less and if he wanted to use rolled oats which has higher protein than barley, or mix with beef nuts at 16% protien.

bogman_bass

I think you'll find that Barley has the higher protein content

Tomjim

What is the max amount of rolled barley you can feed a 250 kg weanling per day

CloughCasey1

bogman_bass wrote: »

I think you'll find that Barley has the higher protein content

I thought barley was 11 and oats 13

Brown Podzol

Should be calculated as grammes of protein per head per day, so you should really know the % protein of the silage. A growing animal is recommended to get 14% protein of the overall diet and will eat c. 2% of body weight in dry matter terms per day. So a 300kg animal will consume 6kg dm per day so needs 840 grammes of protein,14% of 6kg. If you decide to feed 2kg meal then they will eat 4kg silage dm. Say silage 12% protein, that's 480 grammes protein so you now need 360 grammes from the meal. 2kg meal at 18% protein will give that amount. For simplicity I have used meal at 100% dm.

Tomjim

this is becoming very technical for an uneducated farmer. so there would be no problem feeding a 250 kg weanling 2 kg of rolled barley and .25 kg of soya?

CloughCasey1

Tomjim wrote: »

this is becoming very technical for an uneducated farmer. so there would be no problem feeding a 250 kg weanling 2 kg of rolled barley and .25 kg of soya?

Plough on!! That and goodish silage will keep them growing for the winter.

Brown Podzol

Tomjim wrote: »

this is becoming very technical for an uneducated farmer. so there would be no problem feeding a 250 kg weanling 2 kg of rolled barley and .25 kg of soya?

I take it that the silage is around 12% p. 3kg/dm is 360 grammes of p. And you need 700, so your short c. 340 . So yes will get that from 2kg barley and .25 kg soya.

mf240

http://www.gpfeeds.co.uk/ration.htm

Blend calculator here. You can work out your own mix.

freedominacup

mf240 wrote: »

http://www.gpfeeds.co.uk/ration.htm

Blend calculator here. You can work out your own mix.

I had the link bookmarked. Wasn't working well the last time I tried it. Had to use an envelope instead.

Muckit

freedominacup wrote: »

I had the link bookmarked. Wasn't working well the last time I tried it. Had to use an envelope instead.

Would that not get soggy? A scoop might be better

SuperTeeJay

If you feed 2kgs barley and .25% soya meal would you need to feed minerals and vitamins along with that or would a bolus suffice or 60mls growvite do weanlings instead?

J DEERE

What are straights costing these days? Barley and soya

Robson99

Anyone know where soya hulls can be bought loose in the west???

danjoe

J DEERE wrote: »

What are straights costing these days? Barley and soya

Rolled Barley 180 -185/ton loose soya bean 48% is 10.50/ 25 kg bag, don't know what it is for bulk

Milked out

danjoe wrote: »

Rolled Barley 180 -185/ton loose soya bean 48% is 10.50/ 25 kg bag, don't know what it is for bulk

385 ton soya bean delivered from dairygold

CloughCasey1

Milked out wrote: »

385 ton soya bean delivered from dairygold

Where is that co-op? How far would they deliver

Milked out

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Where is that co-op? How far would they deliver

Munster, cork based. That's bulk delivered, with an estimated tonnage required for winter given when getting quote from rep. Haven't gotten on to anywhere else yet

Robson99

Robson99 wrote: »

Anyone know where soya hulls can be bought loose in the west???

Anyone??

bogman_bass

Robson99 wrote: »

Anyone??

Surely arrivo would have it

raypallas

Robson99 wrote:

Anyone??

How far west are ya talking?

Robson99

Ballinasle/ roscommon area

epfff

Robson99 wrote: »

Ballinasle/ roscommon area

Jesus your a neighbour of mine

Stapleton out purtumla road had it a while back
Farrell in castlecoote have it too I think

Robson99

epfff wrote: »

Jesus your a neighbour of mine

Stapleton out purtumla road had it a while back
Farrell in castlecoote have it too I think

Near enough id say. Its hard to source soya hulls loose or maybe its just me being a bit lazy