Commercial vehicles

cruiser202006

Is there a limit to the amount of vehicles someone can get taxed commercially? I'm a small sole trader with a van taxed commercially presently. Toying with the idea of picking up a crewcab navara or hilux. Will there be any boundaries to getting this taxed commercially also?

Valetta

cruiser202006 wrote: »

Is there a limit to the amount of vehicles someone can get taxed commercially? I'm a small sole trader with a van taxed commercially presently. Toying with the idea of picking up a crewcab navara or hilux. Will there be any boundaries to getting this taxed commercially also?

Once it's only used for business, then there's no problem.

Stobart's have hundreds of them , all taxed commercially. -:)

savagethegoat

I think you'll have to prove you need a crew cab for business purposes...ie to carry a crew

monkeynuz

savagethegoat wrote: »

I think you'll have to prove you need a crew cab for business purposes...ie to carry a crew

Don't you just have to make a goods only declaration the same as a van, because after that the same rules apply regarding carrying non working passengers?

savagethegoat

savagethegoat wrote: »

I think you'll have to prove you need a crew cab for business purposes...ie to carry a crew

I wouldn't worry too much about the difficulty of it. I've three friends driving crew cabs two have part-time farms so use it for a mixture of farm/family car and commuting to their job. One doesn't have a farm either just uses it privately.

All 3 taxed commercially.

cruiser202006

Need a jeep for dragging around a trailer the odd time as its too hard on the van Nd it wudnt make sense having 3 vehicles and trying to tax insure and Nct/doe all 3.

Perhaps upgrade van to a 4motion transporter.

monkeynuz

Amaris Rough Lion wrote: »

I wouldn't worry too much about the difficulty of it. I've three friends driving crew cabs two have part-time farms so use it for a mixture of farm/family car and commuting to their job. One doesn't have a farm either just uses it privately.

All 3 taxed commercially.

The difficulty could come in the event of an accident while carrying civilians, invalid insurance, motor tax fraud, fraudulent declaration made at Garda station etc.

knifey_spoonie

monkeynuz wrote: »

The difficulty could come in the event of an accident while carrying civilians, invalid insurance, motor tax fraud, fraudulent declaration made at Garda station etc.

Motor Tax has no bearing whatsoever on validity of insurance, never has.

Mycroft H

monkeynuz wrote: »

The difficulty could come in the event of an accident while carrying civilians, invalid insurance, motor tax fraud, fraudulent declaration made at Garda station etc.

Rubbish. Your insurance will not be invalid. Most light commercial policies allow domestic use, the policy I'm named on for a light commercial jeep does allow it.

monkeynuz

Mycroft H wrote: »

Rubbish. Your insurance will not be invalid. Most light commercial policies allow domestic use, the policy I'm named on for a light commercial jeep does allow it.

Not so sure, part of the qualifying process for commercial tax is that it will not be used to carry domestic passengers so if you have an accident with them in the vehicle then surely fraud and invalidity of insurance would come into play

monkeynuz

knifey_spoonie wrote: »

Motor Tax has no bearing whatsoever on validity of insurance, never has.

Surely it does if you have signed a document stating the vehicle is for commercial use only?

monkeynuz

Mycroft H wrote: »

Rubbish. Your insurance will not be invalid. Most light commercial policies allow domestic use, the policy I'm named on for a light commercial jeep does allow it.

So are you saying I can legally buy a crew cab Range Rover and enjoy commercial tax but use it for private use?

monkeynuz

monkeynuz wrote: »

So are you saying I can legally buy a crew cab Range Rover and enjoy commercial tax but use it for private use?

From an insurance viewpoint yes as your policy will cover social and domestic use.

Mycroft H

monkeynuz wrote: »

So are you saying I can legally buy a crew cab Range Rover and enjoy commercial tax but use it for private use?

We've a commercial Discovery. I use it often to tow kayaks down the country for the weekend. Insurance is cool with it; the social/domestic end of the policy covers it. Gardai don't give a toss either once the discs in the window are in order.

Can't find any explicit legislation to say what I'm doing isn't kosher.

monkeynuz

monkeynuz wrote: »

The difficulty could come in the event of an accident while carrying civilians, invalid insurance, motor tax fraud, fraudulent declaration made at Garda station etc.

Any commercial insurance I have seen also included social, domestic and pleasure use. Insurance companies couldn't care less about tax or tax class.

There are thousands of people driving commercials for partly or totally private use. The guards don't care and the insurance companies don't care. I know so many myself who do it never mind the rest of the country and I know people who have crashed commercials while commuting etc and never had a single problem.

Particularly now that you can tax lots of 5 seat 4x4's commercially there are more and more being used as the main family car.