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  • 05-11-2015 11:06am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm lecturing parttime for one of the biggest universities in the country (won't mention which).

    The course director has instructed us to use provided guidelines to grade a final assignment.

    Fair enough.

    However we have been told our marking will not be accepted if we grade our classes with over 50% A or fail grades. There has been a veiled threat made that if we don't follow these guidelines that our timesheets for the last month in the semester won't be processed.

    Most of us have marked our classes with around 80% A grades. We have been asked to revise downwards.

    Is this fair? Is this acceptable? It might be the difference between a 2.1 and a first for a lot of students.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    You really need to talk to your union about this.

    What reason were you given for this request? Was it verbal or written?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Most of us have marked our classes with around 80% A grades. We have been asked to revise downwards.

    I think its absolutely fair as our education system has been rightly criticised for demeaning grades.
    Is this fair? Is this acceptable? It might be the difference between a 2.1 and a first for a lot of students.


    What's the value in everyone getting a first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Roselm


    There is supposed to be a bell curve and while that doesn't seem fair you could say that if a huge number are getting firsts then the test was too easy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    It makes perfect sense, and IMO the only problem here is that the threat had to be veiled an cannot be made abundantly clear.

    What's the point in every Tom, Dick and Harry getting an A? It devalues the material you teach, the university reputation and the calibre of graduate we are churning out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Dee01


    It makes perfect sense, and IMO the only problem here is that the threat had to be veiled an cannot be made abundantly clear.

    What's the point in every Tom, Dick and Harry getting an A? It devalues the material you teach, the university reputation and the calibre of graduate we are churning out.


    But if the student genuinely got an A due to the work they produced, why should they be marked down? It shouldn't matter how many A grades have come before their paper or after their paper.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    Dee01 wrote: »
    But if the student genuinely got an A due to the work they produced, why should they be marked down? It shouldn't matter how many A grades have come before their paper or after their paper.

    Sorry but 80% of the class are not churning out A material.

    OP I'm not an academic but I'm educated up to masters level. My 2.1 was hard got through hard work in my final year, I freely admit I was lazy and not farsighted before then. Students know, and should always know, that failure is a possibility. I failed one module in my undergrad and it was horrible. I'm glad I did tho because it shook me into action and I salvaged my degree.

    Don't worry about your students, do your job; your job is to grade them properly, and unless you have an *exceptionally* bright and hardworking class, that's not 80% As.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Don't they do this in the leaving cert too?


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