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  • 02-11-2015 03:41PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭


    Is it just me or anyone else think it's extremely bad form for a company to interview you and not have the decency to get back to you with a no or some type of answer, before re-listing the job.

    Had this happen this morning, interviewed last week, heard nothing and seen job listed again online today.

    Wouldn't mind but the interview was a joke, never looked at my CV, dont even know why I was asked out to be honest. Totally wasted my time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Weird thing, same thing happened again to me, interviewed last week. Again some sort of information on the job etc.. Then was asked if I had any questions? Should have asked the interviewer why they didn't ask me anything about my CV! Mind you I was left there for a fairly long time before the interview and interview was brief, as in they said 'I don't want to keep you any longer', still haven't heard anything back.

    Is this common? I haven't come across this before. My guessing is I haven't got the job and am find with that, but it seems really unprofessional of a company to do this, its not even discreet, next time its done to me, the interviewer is going to get a roasting off me and I am going to absoletly waste there time.

    But the question is, if your not the person for the job and made the effort to come out to them, why not reply the next day saying unsuccessful than just not bothering at all !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    What type of job was it? Senior or Junior? Was this the first interview? Maybe they are mandated to have a second interview and didn't meet enough candidates of the right caliber to put through to the second stage.

    When you were at the interview did you ask them for the timescale on making a decision or what was the next step in the process?

    Your best bet at this stage is to send a polite follow up to ask if they have come to any decisions and to ask what the next step is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    A lot depends on the company. Some companies will put the advertisement out there, gather CVs, then line up and do the interviews at once and make a decision. Other companies will put the advertisement up and then set up an interview for applicants as the CVs come in, and won't stop lining them up until the position is filled.

    Most job sites let the company bump a listing up to the top. So if you interview for a company on Friday and see the job bumped again on a Monday, that doesn't mean you haven't got it. The manager may not have made a decision yet, but the HR intern's job is to go through the list of open reqs and bump them up the list every Monday morning, regardless.

    Always try to remember at the end of an interview to ask what the next steps in the process are, if they haven't told you already. If they give you a timescale, hold them to it, with a day's grace. So, "We'll make a decision by Friday evening" == send a follow-up email after COB on Monday.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    This type of lack of response seems to be getting more common. Over the past year had happened twice post interview stage, with several emails before getting a late reply from the employer. At least it gives a measure of their internal processes, or lack thereof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Psychosis


    Try not to take it personally, recruitment departments are often a bit of a shambles!

    More likely they forgot or they will wait until the position is 100% filled before notifying anyone, you might be still in the running tbh.

    I went for an interview once and didn't hear anything back for 5 weeks, even though the manager wanted to hire me right after the interview, it took that long for the wheels to turn and get an offer offer letter signed by all parties!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    The first post, I never got the job I followed up with it and managed to get a reply. I knew the answer that I didn't get it, due to the way the interview was conducted. Never asked me anything about my CV, or what I would do in certain situation etc.. Typically the way I always get interviewed this one was more like someone reading a prep sheet of what I knew already! Followed by the 'got any questions'.

    The one recenlty was a junior manager role, low pay and an entry rol, again the advert was slightly different in that I never got the impression it was entry level. Was fairly interested, yet again I was interviewed or more so told about the role, I asked a few questions, then asked did I have any and then basically hooshed out the door. I managed on the way out to ask about follow up and it was said it be end of the week. It's now Monday and still nothing? That one interview start fairly off the scheduled time.

    Just don't get it, I dress reasonably well and have a clean shave etc.. But I get the feeling they are just looking at me and saying he is not the guy for the job.

    I'm more fed up with my time been wasted, and more interested by the lack of follow up. It's quite unprofessional in my eyes. I send CVs out to jobs that are above my weight on paper but I would have no problem doing. Would it be a case of 'oh this guy is a joker and a time waster, let's get him in for interview and waste his time'.

    On the first interview, the women was so perplexed by where I lived and the time it took me to get over, she asked me three or four times! Weird thing is the journey only took 15 mins by car.

    These are all IT roles BTW, I think company's are getting more and more weirder in what they want and who they expect. Half thinking of just starting up my own company, just sick of been stuck at the bottom, low pay jack of all trades, the job I am in, I swear no joke I fully expect one day to go in an be expected to clean up he toliets along with my IT role. Sort of putting my own money where my mouth is. Just don't know how or what to start up.

    IT is an awful industry to work in from my experiences so far.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The first post, I never got the job I followed up with it and managed to get a reply. I knew the answer that I didn't get it, due to the way the interview was conducted. Never asked me anything about my CV, or what I would do in certain situation etc.. Typically the way I always get interviewed this one was more like someone reading a prep sheet of what I knew already! Followed by the 'got any questions'.

    The one recenlty was a junior manager role, low pay and an entry rol, again the advert was slightly different in that I never got the impression it was entry level. Was fairly interested, yet again I was interviewed or more so told about the role, I asked a few questions, then asked did I have any and then basically hooshed out the door. I managed on the way out to ask about follow up and it was said it be end of the week. It's now Monday and still nothing? That one interview start fairly off the scheduled time.

    Just don't get it, I dress reasonably well and have a clean shave etc.. But I get the feeling they are just looking at me and saying he is not the guy for the job.

    I'm more fed up with my time been wasted, and more interested by the lack of follow up. It's quite unprofessional in my eyes. I send CVs out to jobs that are above my weight on paper but I would have no problem doing. Would it be a case of 'oh this guy is a joker and a time waster, let's get him in for interview and waste his time'.

    On the first interview, the women was so perplexed by where I lived and the time it took me to get over, she asked me three or four times! Weird thing is the journey only took 15 mins by car.

    These are all IT roles BTW, I think company's are getting more and more weirder in what they want and who they expect. Half thinking of just starting up my own company, just sick of been stuck at the bottom, low pay jack of all trades, the job I am in, I swear no joke I fully expect one day to go in an be expected to clean up he toliets along with my IT role. Sort of putting my own money where my mouth is. Just don't know how or what to start up.

    IT is an awful industry to work in from my experiences so far.
    Are you working in a call centre?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Stheno wrote: »
    Are you working in a call centre?

    No, but the conditions are not far off. It's a level 1 support role for a company. Basically we do everything, theres no planning or asking us if we can do it, it is just do it and fùck what you think. And if your not happy theres the door, only problem is I am heading out the door but I don't want to close the door without something new and so been interviewing looking for work but ran into this problem as above.

    They have recently decided that we use Google translate for our tickets in Spanish, theres a Germany guy with us on 35k a year because he speaks German, now there routing me the same tickets and I don't speak German and am on 24k, I hate the place and want out ASAP, the workload is unmanagable and anything the other teams don't want to do we get them as these lovely little things called 'projects' it makes me sick and want to kill someone each time in a meeting and there mentioned. Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind extra work but the way there guys are going on/operating is taking the piss.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    No, but the conditions are not far off. It's a level 1 support role for a company. Basically we do everything, theres no planning or asking us if we can do it, it is just do it and fùck what you think. And if your not happy theres the door, only problem is I am heading out the door but I don't want to close the door without something new and so been interviewing looking for work but ran into this problem as above.

    They have recently decided that we use Google translate for our tickets in Spanish, theres a Germany guy with us on 35k a year because he speaks German, now there routing me the same tickets and I don't speak German and am on 24k, I hate the place and want out ASAP, the workload is unmanagable and anything the other teams don't want to do we get them as these lovely little things called 'projects' it makes me sick and want to kill someone each time in a meeting and there mentioned. Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind extra work but the way there guys are going on/operating is taking the piss.

    Your posts are very negative, you should be careful that that is not coming across in any way in interviews.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Stheno wrote: »
    Your posts are very negative, you should be careful that that is not coming across in any way in interviews.

    Yes I understand, I don't come across negative in interviews or show a bad light on any company I work/ed for.

    The above posts are just venting in frustration at not getting replies, after attending and again after been told you'd be contacted.

    Kinda like waiting on the person coming to install something and then never arrives and never follows up. It's just quite rude ! Just posted here to see if it was just me or is this quite common ?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Just posted here to see if it was just me or is this quite common ?

    I'd say it's probably 50/50 especially for more junior roles where they might interview a fair few candidates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Op I was well peeved from several occasions where I interviewed, they did not prep nor look ar my cv plus other various unprofessional things during and after interview!

    So I sent an email to the interviewer, head of HR and any other senior people I could find emails for and outlined their lack of professionalism, how they wasted my time, how on one accession the interviewer took a personal call during interview, another went out to fetch a coffee( could smell the Irish coming from it). Now I set up a generic email account to do this and I was not expecting anything from it only smug satisfaction from pointing out their flaws which I also explained to them in the email.

    In the end I got one reply asking for personal details so they could investigate. I politely refused stating I have since got an offer which I have accepted and outlined the professionalism of this company and the superior package they were offering for s very similar role!!

    Look at it this way, you are one more NO away from getting that YES!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Stheno wrote: »
    Your posts are very negative, you should be careful that that is not coming across in any way in interviews.

    And dear God please get your 'there', 'their' and 'they're' usages correct! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Techmaster wrote: »
    And dear God please get your 'there', 'their' and 'they're' usages correct! ;)

    What? It's an interview not a spelling/grammar competition ! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,283 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Have you asked for any of the Jobs in these interviews?
    In the questions, are you happy with my experience, is there something I may have ommited in the interview that may have you doubting I'm the right person for this role?

    He who dares Rodney.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Have you asked for any of the Jobs in these interviews?
    In the questions, are you happy with my experience, is there something I may have ommited in the interview that may have you doubting I'm the right person for this role?

    He who dares Rodney.

    Yes, I have asked the question regards the experience and all have said it looks like a match for what we need.

    Might start coming out with a few Old Fools quotes next time I know it is going down like a sinking ship !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    TallGlass wrote: »
    What? It's an interview not a spelling/grammar competition ! :confused:

    Did your cv have any spelling or grammatical errors?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Techmaster wrote: »
    Did your cv have any spelling or grammatical errors?

    No, I went over it with the online checker for grammar and spelling mistakes, besides would that not put people off calling me for interview? The problem is getting interviewed and then not hearing anything back! But I understand your point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    TallGlass wrote: »
    No, I went over it with the online checker for grammar and spelling mistakes, besides would that not put people off calling me for interview? The problem is getting interviewed and then not hearing anything back! But I understand your point.

    No worries, was just curious. Its very annoying to not get a reply back, happened to me once or twice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Techmaster wrote: »
    No worries, was just curious. Its very annoying to not get a reply back, happened to me once or twice.

    Yes, again very annoying. But another odd thing was them not asking any questions regarding your work experience or what you would bring the role. Is this a normal thing? To just speak about the job and then ask the person do you have any questions for me?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Yes, again very annoying. But another odd thing was them not asking any questions regarding your work experience or what you would bring the role. Is this a normal thing? To just speak about the job and then ask the person do you have any questions for me?

    Was it a ht person doing the interview?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    TallGlass wrote: »
    No, I went over it with the online checker for grammar and spelling mistakes, besides would that not put people off calling me for interview? The problem is getting interviewed and then not hearing anything back! But I understand your point.

    My own view as someone who has been heavily involved in recruitment and selection for an expanding firm in the last 12 to 14 months, is 'yes.'

    If the job requires you to be detail oriented or precise then stuff like that will at best irritate and at worst get your cv a one way trip to the reject pile.

    Use the spellchecker but get some fresh eyes to read over it - preferably someone who you know is a bit of a grammar Nazi.

    As for your original question, yes it was poor form of the company not to let you know the outcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Stheno wrote: »
    Was it a ht person doing the interview?

    Both times it was someone higher than HR both at director level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,283 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ok so, it's not you not asking the questions, and your sure it's not your grammar. I'm pretty sure it's not either as you wouldn't of made it out of the lucky pile.

    What none of us can tell is your look and attitude, is there something their needs refining, you say it's a managerial role, are you dressed like one, do you come across as someone in charge of the interview.
    Hard to tell but it sounds like your coming over a little boring/non interested in the interviews, don't launch at me just trying to read between the lines, have you them excited about you and what your spark can bring to the job. Are they getting the feeling your not to passionate just want to change jobs feeling from you.
    Have you made them laugh? You said one of them kept asking about how far away you were, you didn't arrive over in biker gear or anything?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Both times it was someone higher than HR both at director level.

    A director level intervewing for entry level roles?
    Seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Ok so, it's not you not asking the questions, and your sure it's not your grammar. I'm pretty sure it's not either as you wouldn't of made it out of the lucky pile.

    What none of us can tell is your look and attitude, is there something their needs refining, you say it's a managerial role, are you dressed like one, do you come across as someone in charge of the interview.
    Hard to tell but it sounds like your coming over a little boring/non interested in the interviews, don't launch at me just trying to read between the lines, have you them excited about you and what your spark can bring to the job. Are they getting the feeling your not to passionate just want to change jobs feeling from you.
    Have you made them laugh? You said one of them kept asking about how far away you were, you didn't arrive over in biker gear or anything?

    No biker gear lol . I would like to think I have a good attitude in the interviews, maybe I was just unlucky. I don't like to cut across people while they talk, but I would be interested in the role they are offering. I would like to give them that spark but I don't want to start talking about myself if questions are not been asked towards me. But I take on board what you mean regard giving off a good vibe ! For the role, I had a shirt, slacks, tie, jacket on, clean shaven and geled hair. I do have a bit of a cold at the moment so might have been a bit wooley headed at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Stheno wrote: »
    A director level intervewing for entry level roles?
    Seriously?

    Em? I am not lying or joking, both titled at director level. But didn't concern me really just a little different. I'll just have to consider everything for the roles in future. Is that unusual?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Weird thing, same thing happened again to me, interviewed last week. Again some sort of information on the job etc.. Then was asked if I had any questions? Should have asked the interviewer why they didn't ask me anything about my CV! Mind you I was left there for a fairly long time before the interview and interview was brief, as in they said 'I don't want to keep you any longer', still haven't heard anything back.

    Is this common? I haven't come across this before. My guessing is I haven't got the job and am find with that, but it seems really unprofessional of a company to do this, its not even discreet, next time its done to me, the interviewer is going to get a roasting off me and I am going to absoletly waste there time.

    But the question is, if your not the person for the job and made the effort to come out to them, why not reply the next day saying unsuccessful than just not bothering at all !


    Had a similar experience a while back. Your wan interviewing admitted she hadn't read the cv. Interview was pleasantly pointless - never heard from again.

    Had a similar thing with a well known supermarket chain so I went in their facebook page and pointed out that they were the total pits and that I wouldn't ever shop there again. Three days later got a phonecall apolagising followed by a rejection letter that was dated a lot earlier than the postmark.

    What n very few seem to realise is that potential employees are also potential customers - or not!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Em? I am not lying or joking, both titled at director level. But didn't concern me really just a little different. I'll just have to consider everything for the roles in future. Is that unusual?

    Yes, unless it was a tiny company and it was a head of IT calling themselves the director.
    TallGlass wrote: »
    No biker gear lol . I would like to think I have a good attitude in the interviews, maybe I was just unlucky. I don't like to cut across people while they talk, but I would be interested in the role they are offering. I would like to give them that spark but I don't want to start talking about myself if questions are not been asked towards me. But I take on board what you mean regard giving off a good vibe ! For the role, I had a shirt, slacks, tie, jacket on, clean shaven and geled hair. I do have a bit of a cold at the moment so might have been a bit wooley headed at the time.

    Do you not have a suit?

    Also not talking about yourself means you are not "placing yourself in the role" and demonstrating what you can bring to the role, and could indicate a lack of interest.

    Are you going for roles you are actually suited for? If you are currently doing first line support, then was going for an entry level IT manager role a good fit for your skills?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yes, unless it was a tiny company and it was a head of IT calling themselves the director.



    Do you not have a suit?

    Also not talking about yourself means you are not "placing yourself in the role" and demonstrating what you can bring to the role, and could indicate a lack of interest.

    Are you going for roles you are actually suited for? If you are currently doing first line support, then was going for an entry level IT manager role a good fit for your skills?

    No suit, is a suit not a bit over kill for these roles.

    Em I would be entry level IT, but got training in management in another area and was a team lead for many years in that area.

    Good advise on this thread for me to take on board going for future interviews.


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