Can landlord charge late rent?

Felix Culpa

Keep it simple.

Rent is due on the 30th of every month;
I get paid on the last Friday of every month;
Landlord demands I deposit the money directly into her bank;
Currently onsite with one of my clients so it's just impossible;
Asked her if it'd be okay to pay it over the weekend on Monday;
She said yeah but I'll have to pay an extra 60 euros.

I just think this is bad faith and completely unreasonable. Is there a law against this?

The stipulation in my lease is that I will get charged 60 euros for every [late rent warning] she sends by registered post.

draiochtanois

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Felix Culpa

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Why are you all such asshats on here?

I have no problem paying her 60 euro if her demand is legal? That's my question. That's what I'm asking.

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Felix Culpa wrote: »

Why are you all such asshats on here?

I have no problem paying her 60 euro if her demand is legal? That's my question. That's what I'm asking.

It's in your lease.

Felix Culpa

Liliana Hissing Nectarine wrote: »

It's in your lease.

Only if I receive a written warning sent by registered post before the money goes into her account.

Kimbot

Liliana Hissing Nectarine wrote: »

It's in your lease.

If the landlord wrote "I can enter the premises anytime I wish without your permission" would that be legal because its in the lease?

Miaireland

You are going to pay your rent late so she is entitled to send you a late rent warning. You have a agreed in your lease that you will pay 60 euros for every rent warning, so yes she can charge you.

How do your wages get paid? If it is straight into your bank account would you consider setting up phone/internet banking and transfer the money that way. Or else set up a direct debit putting the money in the landlords account.

Miaireland

jonny24ie wrote: »

If the landlord wrote "I can enter the premises anytime I wish without your permission" would that be legal because its in the lease?

By signing the lease you would have been giving premission I would have thought.

Look at your landlords situations, he/she may have standing orders/direct debits coming out of her account today or tomorrow. He/she may need your rent money to meet these so/dd. She will incur a bank fine if there is insufficent money in her account. Why should she take the loss because you did not pay your rent on time. Hence the 60 euro charge.

emeldc

OP, I'd be asking a friend to lodge the money for you and you could sort them out later on. It would be great if I could claim €60 for every time the rent on my place was a day or two late, but if it's what you agreed to then I don't see how you have any choice. You could also offer to pay an 'extra' week to bring your rent date up to the 7th so that you don't get caught out again.

Felix Culpa

emeldc wrote: »

OP, I'd be asking a friend to lodge the money for you and you could sort them out later on. It would be great if I could claim €60 for every time the rent on my place was a day or two late, but if it's what you agreed to then I don't see how you have any choice. You could also offer to pay an 'extra' week to bring your rent date up to the 7th so that you don't get caught out again.

That's a good idea actually. It's only awkward because I get paid at the last Friday of every month and this unfortunately coincides with the day I get paid.

Arbiter of Good Taste

OP, it's the 21st century. Have you heard of a standing order? It's a great thing whereby a fixed sum is automatically debited from you bank account on the same day every month and can be paid straight to your landlord's account.

awec

Felix Culpa wrote: »

Keep it simple.

Rent is due on the 30th of every month;
I get paid on the last Friday of every month;
Landlord demands I deposit the money directly into her bank;
Currently onsite with one of my clients so it's just impossible;
Asked her if it'd be okay to pay it over the weekend on Monday;
She said yeah but I'll have to pay an extra 60 euros.

I just think this is bad faith and completely unreasonable. Is there a law against this?

The stipulation in my lease is that I will get charged 60 euros for every [late rent warning] she sends by registered post.

The two sentences in bold make no sense.

You don't actually have to go to a bank to do a bank transfer (they take 30 seconds on your phone these days) and you can set them up to happen automatically (standing order).

Squeeonline

I have never paid rent with cash, it makes no sense when I can have a SO set up and just have it gone.

Got a slight rent reduction once by offering to pay once a month directly rather than every 2 weeks in cash. Rent every 2 weeks was a sneaky way of squeezing in a 13th month.

mattaiuseire

She can put whatever she wants (within reason of course) in the lease agreement, however she must also keep to her side of the agreement.

If you phone her on rent due day to advise you cannot lodge the money until 2 days later on Monday and she says okay but you will have to pay an extra €60, but you haven't received a 'late rent warning' by registered post by the time you have lodged your money, then she is chancing her arm and it would be difficult to enforce.

I think she sounds wholly unreasonable. Most landlord's give a weeks grace without many questions being asked. If she misses a direct debit because a tenant pays her a little bit late, then she should arrange for the rent due date to be sooner, or amend her own direct debit due dates.

Also, not everybody wants to use Standing orders and they prefer to pay people the old fashioned way.

Felix Culpa

mattaiuseire wrote: »

She can put whatever she wants (within reason of course) in the lease agreement, however she must also keep to her side of the agreement.

If you phone her on rent due day to advise you cannot lodge the money until 2 days later on Monday and she says okay but you will have to pay an extra €60, but you haven't received a 'late rent warning' by registered post by the time you have lodged your money, then she is chancing her arm and it would be difficult to enforce.

I think she sounds wholly unreasonable. Most landlord's give a weeks grace without many questions being asked. If she misses a direct debit because a tenant pays her a little bit late, then she should arrange for the rent due date to be sooner, or amend her own direct debit due dates.

Also, not everybody wants to use Standing orders and they prefer to pay people the old fashioned way.

Cheers for this.

And the reason why I don't want to set up a standing order or do it by telephone is the 3 day delay for monies to go through. Which would mean I'm always late on my rent (Btw she emailed me saying she wouldn't accept an extra week that it just has to be paid in full on time every month). Just seems odd to me; I'd accept a payment for a large sum of money taking time to transfer, no matter the context, that's how business works.

whippet

i'm not so sure as to how you don't have time to transfer the money; yet plenty of time to have a debate on the internet with strangers?

Priorities.

Pat Mustard

Felix Culpa wrote: »

Why are you all such asshats on here?

I have no problem paying her 60 euro if her demand is legal? That's my question. That's what I'm asking.

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