Return of water meter.

Streetwalker

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

gordongekko

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

If it's outside your property why would they need your permission?

Kimbot

Irish Water dont need your permission to install a water meter. Its not exactly a system you can opt out of unless your on a private scheme. Also if you have removed the meter you could be facing some trouble.

Streetwalker

Thanks but I know my rights. Just looking for an address to return it to from a rep.

TheChizler

You might as well send the council the concrete from the footpath and tarmac from the road while you're at it.

Kimbot

The company have an address, send it to their main address but I doubt you know your rights especially when you have tampered with something that isnt even on your own property.

mattaiuseire

Tread very carefully OP before you land yourself in hot water.  You obviously do not know your rights.

That's like taking a bolt cutter to a council car clamp and saying "Who the hell left that there?".
FYI, that's AKA criminal damage and yes, you can be prosecuted, and no, you will not have a leg to stand on.

Streetwalker

So I'm guessing no rep is prepared to answer the question?

TheChizler

Streetwalker wrote: »

So I'm guessing no rep is prepared to answer the question?

Well seeing as you asked the question 3 hours ago and the average response time is 4 hours...

Kimbot

Response time is roughly 4 hours, not everyone can sit on Boards all day long.

seamus

OP, the response is going to be, "Please PM me your account number or address, so we can arrange for an engineer to visit your property and collect and inspect our water meter before reinstalling it. 
You will not be reimbursed for your costs, but may be billed for the cost of the engineer's visit and any damage that may have occurred to the meter as a result of its removal". 

Irish Water: Niall

Hi,

Thank you contacting us.

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

No. The water meter outside your home is part of the water network operated by Irish Water. To ensure a safe clean supply of water, all works to your water meter and the water network should only be carried out by a fully trained and authorised personnel. Water meters are being fitted by personnel who are fully trained in meter installations and water hygiene.

Interference with or removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007 and may cause interruption to or contamination to your water supply.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

TheChizler

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Water Services Act 2007

Wasn't aware of this particular act, it's verbose to say the least! It's interesting, that's my afternoon gone...

Streetwalker

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi,

Thank you contacting us.

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

No. The water meter outside your home is part of the water network operated by Irish Water. To ensure a safe clean supply of water, all works to your water meter and the water network should only be carried out by a fully trained and authorised personnel. Water meters are being fitted by personnel who are fully trained in meter installations and water hygiene.

Interference with or removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007 and may cause interruption to or contamination to your water supply.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Hi Niall.

No it doesn't help in any way at all if I am honest. Maybe you are failing to understand the question I'm not sure? I was looking for an address to return the meter to as I haven't signed up or registered for the service.

 I contacted the people in our area who have removed the meters on the residents behalf and they have arranged for the meters to be returned en mass to the organisation who installed them. Also there will be a charge attached to the return of the meters including the labour involved with removal and the cost of transporting them to the relevant address.

Many thanks,
Streetwalker.

mattaiuseire

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

ahnowbrowncow

Streetwalker wrote: »

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi,

Thank you contacting us.

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

No. The water meter outside your home is part of the water network operated by Irish Water. To ensure a safe clean supply of water, all works to your water meter and the water network should only be carried out by a fully trained and authorised personnel. Water meters are being fitted by personnel who are fully trained in meter installations and water hygiene.

Interference with or removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007 and may cause interruption to or contamination to your water supply.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Hi Niall.

No it doesn't help in any way at all if I am honest. Maybe you are failing to understand the question I'm not sure? I was looking for an address to return the meter to as I haven't signed up or registered for the service.

 I contacted the people in our area who have removed the meters on the residents behalf and they have arranged for the meters to be returned en mass to the organisation who installed them. Also there will be a charge attached to the return of the meters including the labour involved with removal and the cost of transporting them to the relevant address.

Many thanks,
Streetwalker.

If only you'd put as much effort into getting a job

Streetwalker

mattaiuseire wrote: »

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. I would have thought touting for business on boards like that would be against the terms of the website not sure but i'll bring it to the attention of the site moderators in any case.

Also can you state where I have broken the law? That's a pretty serious allegation in my eyes to be directing at someone given the fact the meters where removed by a third party for which I have no control over and the meter was left outside my premises.

Regards, Streetwalker.

Oryx

If you are using the water they supply you are using the service. Dont want to be metered? Dig a well.

Streetwalker

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Streetwalker wrote: »

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi,

Thank you contacting us.

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

No. The water meter outside your home is part of the water network operated by Irish Water. To ensure a safe clean supply of water, all works to your water meter and the water network should only be carried out by a fully trained and authorised personnel. Water meters are being fitted by personnel who are fully trained in meter installations and water hygiene.

Interference with or removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007 and may cause interruption to or contamination to your water supply.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Hi Niall.

No it doesn't help in any way at all if I am honest. Maybe you are failing to understand the question I'm not sure? I was looking for an address to return the meter to as I haven't signed up or registered for the service.

 I contacted the people in our area who have removed the meters on the residents behalf and they have arranged for the meters to be returned en mass to the organisation who installed them. Also there will be a charge attached to the return of the meters including the labour involved with removal and the cost of transporting them to the relevant address.

Many thanks,
Streetwalker.

If only you'd put as much effort into getting a job

Hi ahnowbrowncow

Thanks for your input but i'm presently happily employed.

Have a great day, Streetwalker.

gordongekko

Streetwalker wrote: »

mattaiuseire wrote: »

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. I would have thought touting for business on boards like that would be against the terms of the website not sure but i'll bring it to the attention of the site moderators in any case.

Also can you state where I have broken the law? That's a pretty serious allegation in my eyes to be directing at someone given the fact the meters where removed by a third party for which I have no control over and the meter was left outside my premises.

Regards, Streetwalker.

You appear to be trying to steal water. Do you not think theft is a criminal offence?

Oryx

Streetwalker wrote: »

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. I would have thought touting for business on boards like that would be against the terms of the website not sure but i'll bring it to the attention of the site moderators in any case.

Also can you state where I have broken the law? That's a pretty serious allegation in my eyes to be directing at someone given the fact the meters where removed by a third party for which I have no control over and the meter was left outside my premises.

Regards, Streetwalker.

You want to charge IW for the removal though?

jack presley

Streetwalker wrote: »

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep.

Would it not have been better sending a PM to the reps then as opposed to starting a thread?

TheChizler

You might want to let 'whoever removed the meter' know that the potential penalty for such an offence is a fine of up to €5000 and 3 months in prison...

Irish Water: Niall

Hi,

Streetwalker wrote: »

Hi Niall.

No it doesn't help in any way at all if I am honest. Maybe you are failing to understand the question I'm not sure? I was looking for an address to return the meter to as I haven't signed up or registered for the service.

I contacted the people in our area who have removed the meters on the residents behalf and they have arranged for the meters to be returned en mass to the organisation who installed them. Also there will be a charge attached to the return of the meters including the labour involved with removal and the cost of transporting them to the relevant address.

Many thanks,
Streetwalker.

The Water Services Act deems an individual liable for water charges if they are connected to the public water and/or wasterwater mains infrastructure.

As previously advised, interference with or the removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007.

Thanks,
Niall

KomradeBishop

You don't have a legal leg to stand on here OP - but neither do the hundreds of thousands of people, who refuse to pay their water bills; the difference with the latter, is 'safety in numbers'.

If you have the meter removed, consider it 'civil disobedience' (though it's a step further than those who refuse to pay bills) - i.e. you may get pulled up on it in court - and if you want to go down that road, it only makes sense if there are a large amount of people who are doing the same (particularly who you could group up with locally).

Timberrrrrrrr

jack presley wrote: »

Streetwalker wrote: »

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep.

Would it not have been better sending a PM to the reps then as opposed to starting a thread?

It doesn't get an audience that way though.

irish_dave_83

Streetwalker wrote: »

mattaiuseire wrote: »

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. I would have thought touting for business on boards like that would be against the terms of the website not sure but i'll bring it to the attention of the site moderators in any case.

Also can you state where I have broken the law? That's a pretty serious allegation in my eyes to be directing at someone given the fact the meters where removed by a third party for which I have no control over and the meter was left outside my premises.

Regards, Streetwalker.

Hi Streetwalker,

If the meter was removed and you are not to blame for it, why don't you give IW your address so that they can have it refitted. I'm sure they would oblige given that you claim to have done no wrong and you would not need an address from them, also you will not be out of pocket for postage charges. In addition, if you know the third party who removed it, that information could help IW and the Gardaí regarding any criminal investigation in the future. That's what any sensible person who had no part in removing the meter would do. But are you sensible or seeking attention, that is the question?

endacl

Streetwalker wrote: »

mattaiuseire wrote: »

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. 

Surely you should have just used the PM function then?

You used a public forum because you wanted an audience for your nonsense. Audiences heckle when the performance is rubbish. Your performance is rubbish.

Consider this post a heckle.

mattaiuseire

irish_dave_83 wrote: »

Streetwalker wrote: »

mattaiuseire wrote: »

They won't give you an address or even take you up on your ridiculous questions.  As they have already stated, the interference or removal of a water meter which has been installed on land that doesn't belong to you, is a criminal offence.  The fact that you can easily obtain the head office address shows everybody your immature attitude and that you are only here as an attention seeker.

If you want to make a difference to the country you live in, instead of breaking the law, try putting your efforts elsewhere.

If Irish Water would like to consider the prosecution of these people, please contact me privately and I will have someone from my law firm contact you.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for the input but once again the matter is one between myself and the IW rep. I would have thought touting for business on boards like that would be against the terms of the website not sure but i'll bring it to the attention of the site moderators in any case.

Also can you state where I have broken the law? That's a pretty serious allegation in my eyes to be directing at someone given the fact the meters where removed by a third party for which I have no control over and the meter was left outside my premises.

Regards, Streetwalker.

Hi Streetwalker,

If the meter was removed and you are not to blame for it, why don't you give IW your address so that they can have it refitted. I'm sure they would oblige given that you claim to have done no wrong and you would not need an address from them, also you will not be out of pocket for postage charges. In addition, if you know the third party who removed it, that information could help IW and the Gardaí regarding any criminal investigation in the future. That's what any sensible person who had no part in removing the meter would do. But are you sensible or seeking attention, that is the question?

Of course he wouldn't, what he will do instead is hide behind this third party hoping that no allegations in relation to conspiracy with intention to cause criminal damage will arise.

Hollister11

Get a grip. No one wants to pay this charge, but at the end of the day we have to.

Kimbot

Streetwalker wrote: »

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi,

Thank you contacting us.

Streetwalker wrote: »

If a rep of IW could please contact me here as I need a return address for a water meter. Someone seems to have installed one outside my property without my permission?? Do you have freepost envelopes you could send out to me or will I be reimbursed for the postage? Many thanks.

No. The water meter outside your home is part of the water network operated by Irish Water. To ensure a safe clean supply of water, all works to your water meter and the water network should only be carried out by a fully trained and authorised personnel. Water meters are being fitted by personnel who are fully trained in meter installations and water hygiene.

Interference with or removal of a water meter is a criminal offence under the Water Services Act 2007 and may cause interruption to or contamination to your water supply.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Hi Niall.

No it doesn't help in any way at all if I am honest. Maybe you are failing to understand the question I'm not sure? I was looking for an address to return the meter to as I haven't signed up or registered for the service.

 I contacted the people in our area who have removed the meters on the residents behalf and they have arranged for the meters to be returned en mass to the organisation who installed them. Also there will be a charge attached to the return of the meters including the labour involved with removal and the cost of transporting them to the relevant address.

Many thanks,
Streetwalker.

Streetwalker,

Maybe your not understanding the answer? So a third party removed the meter but your looking for the associated costs back? You seriously need to wake up and smell the coffee. You are now in possession of a water meter that has been removed illegally, you have been told that you cannot return the meter yet your still here looking to have it all your way. I didnt want a water meter but guess what.... I have one. Now why dont you grow up and instead of being an ass why dont you contact IW and tell them the meter for YOUR property has been removed and to be a decent law obiding citizen could they reinstall it for you!!

Boards.ie: Niamh

OP has closed his account, question has been answered by Irish Water. Thread closed.