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Not being paid by new employer after two months

  • 28-10-2015 09:07AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,397 ✭✭✭markpb


    Is the payroll administrator in the sane building as you? Find their desk, sit beside them and ask for a cheque so you can pay your rent and buy food.

    Alternatively, ask your manager to find out what's going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Well find out, they have no excuse for withholding pay for two months. If payroll don't sort it out, then get on to HR and tell them you can't live without a wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    There's literally no excuse for this. You're going to be taxed quite heavily too I'd imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Refuse to do another minutes work until you have been paid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Lux23 wrote:
    Well find out, they have no excuse for withholding pay for two months. If payroll don't sort it out, then get on to HR and tell them you can't live without a wage.

    ^^ This. Anywhere I've ever worked, HR have always been helpful when it came to ensuring people got paid on time. I don't remember it too well now but they definitely offered financial help to people whose wages hadn't come through the time Ulster Bank's system had the meltdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


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    To which you reply. That's not good enough I have bills to pay and it's entirely unacceptable to expect me to work for 3 months without payment. Now who would I see about getting a cheque made out to cash."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    Payroll have told me they are looking into it and will be in touch. The managing director of my department has also emailed them. However I fear I will be told "you will be paid in November and back dated"

    Can you not point out that this is not acceptable that you have expenses to meet and that you need to be paid by cheque or bank transfer by the end of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Are you in Canada?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    I have of course told them this in my email to them. I advised them 7 weeks was too long and waiting another 4 is not possible for me.

    Then you need to escalate the problem.
    Have you told your manager?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,541 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    When was the payroll date? Yesterday? If you're with a different bank to the company it may take a day or two for funds to transfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Snakeweasel


    Have you actually said that you are in desperate need of the money? I find it hard to believe that they couldnt cut you a cheque and reconcile it in the november payroll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Have you picked up the phone and spoken to anyone about this. Emails are useful as a record but you can't beat speaking to people and getting your point across in person. Ask to speak to their manager if you're getting no joy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 lynsey


    Under the Payment of Wages Act 1991, What is happening here is illegal. Perhaps you should point this out and see if it sets a fire under them. Have a look at the actual act itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


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    You tell them that your rent is already overdue and you don't have the funds to meet it, so if they don't pay you today, you're going to be evicted from your apartment with no money to find another place to live. Make sure you say this to your manager too.

    Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

    You ring them. Every day @ 10am, you ring the person who's dealing with it and ask them what the current status is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Do other people working there have problems getting paid ? Sounds strange that any legit Company would do this .If its just a case of you being over looked you have got to start raising a fuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    This is no longer an issue with the payroll company that you should be dealing with. You need to hassle your managers and if they try fob you of to the other company tell them that is not your problem, they need to sort out paying you if that involves your company having to write you a cheque so be it, they can look to get re-embursed from the payroll company but you need to get paid. If your own manager is not acting go above and to HR, someone in your company needs to sort this, it is not your responsibility to follow up with a company that they have contracted to sort out pay, they need to ensure you are paid and if contracted company aren't doing it they need to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


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    You're being too nice about this. At the moment this issue is your problem, make it someone else's problem and it'll get solved.

    You've been unbelievably accommodating and understanding. If this was me and I was getting nowhere I'd be ringing HR/Salaries every hour looking for an update. That payroll dates were missed were not your fault as you say you had your bank details to them a week in advance. Mistakes happen though but now it's time for your employer to rectify it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    I think Id be refusing to do another minutes work until I was paid for the work I had done.

    Its just not acceptable. You need to make it very very clear that its not acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,659 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    I think Id be refusing to do another minutes work until I was paid for the work I had done.

    Its just not acceptable. You need to make it very very clear that its not acceptable.

    I wouldn't do that. Its bad advice. You will be in breach of your contract then. At the moment, they are in breach of contract. Make it clear to HR that you urgently need their help and assistance. If not, you will have to escalate this breach of contract immediately (quote your contract) and take it to an external party for adjudication. Where you come from, this is classed as wage theft and is penalised by back payments plus interest (Apologies, if not in Canada but definitely USA).

    How do I know? because last year I took my (former) employer (government body) to the Labour Court and kicked their arse around the room, and the Labour Court Panel's too. I won my pay, they got a public bollicking and I got paid bank holiday pay also that they had tried to rob. SIPTU were useless, in this regard. Also not required. Wage law IS strong here. But you have to be brave enough to wave it at them.

    There are two views of this scenario. Keep your head down, for career purposes. OR assert your rights, mark their cards and in fact the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Where respect is absent, fear works wonders.

    DO NOT be afraid to assert your rights. They have taken your labour, your previous income stream stopped I am sure. So they have duped you, by commission or omission. It feels the same when you are on the receiving end Sasha. YOU own your means of production, you own those wages. It IS wage theft. Plain and simple. But don't call it that to HR. Only to the Labour Court like I did, when one of the panel pissed me off by talking down to me. I still won :D:D:D

    Very best wishes to you.

    I don't know about others here, but I am happy to paypal you a e20 donation (pm if you wish) and you can return it when able. Apologies if you're not badly caught. I know I was last year. So I would not let go of the f**kers once the opportunities for sorting it passed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,659 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    This is no longer an issue with the payroll company that you should be dealing with. You need to hassle your managers and if they try fob you of to the other company tell them that is not your problem, they need to sort out paying you if that involves your company having to write you a cheque so be it, they can look to get re-embursed from the payroll company but you need to get paid. If your own manager is not acting go above and to HR, someone in your company needs to sort this, it is not your responsibility to follow up with a company that they have contracted to sort out pay, they need to ensure you are paid and if contracted company aren't doing it they need to.

    +1. Your contract is not being breached by the payroll company. Your labour is not ebing taken by the payroll company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Have you double checked with them that you gave and they recorded the correct bank details to pay you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    If nothing happens tomorrow, chase it up. Pester them until you get paid. You can't rely on other people to do things for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭briscotti


    i was waiting 3 weeks and it was an absolute nightmare - hope you get sorted!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


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    If it was one of their big-shot executives, there'd be no "try" about it at all :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭lightspeed


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    If the company takes such an approach to wages, there could be fraud.

    Ask yourself this, if it was a member of senior management, would they have to wait another month for their wages?

    How does the company deal with other payables?

    No company can just have a date they do all their payments at once so it all sounds dodgey.

    They claiming they have the funds to pay you but cant because they just cant?

    if they dare say it will be another month, tell them you are filing a complaint with a rights commissioner and the revenue.

    If they not paying you your salary, I assume they have not paid the revenue PRSI and PAYE taxes owed to them for hours you worked. Watch how quick they act when revenue contact them.

    I would be sitting in the office of CEO or whoever at the top and asking in detail why a payment cant be made today like any other normal bill the company has to pay.


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