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How often do you encounter rudeness?

  • 22-10-2015 10:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭


    going through your day to day life, how often would you encounter bad manners and plain rudeness? at the shop, at work, at home? do you think its getting more common or less so?

    aaand another thing, do you find yourself being rude, maybe unintentionally so, to others? be honest.

    apart from the odd dismissive cashier at the shop I don't run into it too often. I find most people are decent enough with a good set of manners.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    I work in a customer contact centre at the moment so you can imagine the patience that exists with hoards of underpaid young people are scurrying about trying to eat, smoke, pee, and run their lives by phone on their short and heavily monitored breaks having been ground down by the general public for hours... there will be blood one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    see you next Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I hate rude behaviour in a man, won't tolerate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Specially on public transport, so quite often. People are dicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I hate rude behaviour in a man, I won't tolerate it.

    you know a man can be a feminists?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Specially on public transport, so quite often. People are dicks.

    That would be only in America here they would be pricks ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    All the bloody time. Inconsiderate fcukers and a stink of the Liffey; two things you can count on in the fair city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    you know a man can be a feminists?

    Did you ever get a belt of a blacksmiths tongs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Almost daily,though I'm not one to suffer fools gladly and have a tongue like a razor blade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    I'm rude at home. I never answer the doorbell. Since mobile phones have become so popular, I now know that my friends will never ring my doorbell unexpectedly, so it is always hawkers, beggars and people who are looking for things who are ringing the bell. So I don't answer it...even when they can see me sitting watching telly through the front window !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I hear Fairview is pretty bad for the auld rudeness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    Pretty much standard on a daily basis at work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Did you ever get a belt of a blacksmiths tongs?

    Sounds kinky, but I'm already spoken for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    You can tell a lot about someone by how they treat the weakest person in the room. So when someone is rude to waiting staff or doesn't say please and thanks, then I've pretty much formed an opinion about them that may not be altogether positive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭shoxter


    I work in retail, at least once per hour


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Many years ago, as a youngster, I somehow got into the habit of saying please and thanks to people in situations where I was being served, dunno why but I did.

    I then learned that a smile or a small act of kindness often meant more to people than anything monetary.

    So I adopted that as an approach to dealing with people.

    It seems to work, as I rarely encounter rudeness, unless it's an individual genetically programmed to be unable to interact with people.

    And I say that as someone who dislikes interacting with people.

    Result? In my local petrol stations, the staff don't bother asking me what pump I'm at, we have had a bit of crack at seven in the morning when they knew where I was and they remember, the "off licence" lady in my local supermarket chats away, and I'd a lovely experience today. I was wearing a cheap knockoff from Lidl of a fancy perfume, and getting a coffee in the canteen, the lady on the till asked me what it was. Rather than being rude and claiming it was the fancy brand, we ended up having a great chat about bagging a bargain, and when I'm next onsite with that particular customer, I'll be bringing in a bottle for her as I've about four, it's a small random niceness that I know she'll enjoy.

    Look for the good in dealing with people guys, it really changes your perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I hear Fairview is pretty bad for the auld rudeness.

    Yes. Al fresco crapping :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    When ordering or buying something I never say please, it's a word that's unnecessary and never appleaded to me. I think that word is used due to the over politeness of the English language. However I always say thanks or thank you if the good or service that is delivered is in good order.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    When ordering or buying something I never say please, it's a word that's unnecessary and never appleaded to me. I think that word is used due to the over politeness of the English language. However I always say thanks or thank you if the good or service that is delivered is in good order.

    Wow.

    Would you ever compliment staff who were serving you or seek out a manager if you got really good service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    Stheno wrote: »
    Wow.

    Would you ever compliment staff who were serving you or seek out a manager if you got really good service?

    No, if they are doing what I pay them then a simple thank you is enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I hate rude behaviour in a man, won't tolerate it.

    So you tolerate rude women?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    No, if they are doing what I pay them then a simple thank you is enough.

    Do you ever tip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Without exception, when I have to ring the IT Support Desk. I'm trying to organise a conference call, check my calendar, read Bloomberg, make a trade. Citrix being an utter disaster as always. I ring and I'm promised a 'technician' within 15 minutes.

    You'll end up using the terminal of a graduate while waiting for some heavily bearded weirdo with converse runners and a stupid shirt to plod down and try and 'reproduce' the issue. I don't think I'm being over the top in thinking that basic IT services should work as well as electricity, air-conditioning, and cleaning services. It's a utility.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Without exception, when I have to ring the IT Support Desk. I'm trying to organise a conference call, check my calendar, read Bloomberg, make a trade. Citrix being an utter disaster as always. I ring and I'm promised a 'technician' within 15 minutes.

    You'll end up using the terminal of a graduate while waiting for some heavily bearded weirdo with converse runners and a stupid shirt to plod down and try and 'reproduce' the issue. I don't think I'm being over the top in thinking that basic IT services should work as well as electricity, air-conditioning, and cleaning services. It's a utility.

    Google ITIL, learn what value means, it's not just utility. Once you do that, suggest it as an improvement initiative in your company and see your salary rise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    So you tolerate rude women?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    When ordering or buying something I never say please, it's a word that's unnecessary and never appleaded to me. I think that word is used due to the over politeness of the English language. However I always say thanks or thank you if the good or service that is delivered is in good order.

    I can't wait till the recession ends
    I used to say please back at customers who simply said give me such and such
    not ducking downtown abbey Ffs

    I had a quick list at your post history and well here is my favourite
    conditioned games
    Registered User


    Join Date: Apr 2014
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    It will be a very sad day for Ireland if this gay marriage thing comes in. A large chunk of society is on a downward curve not knowing the difference between right and wrong anymore. Men having seX with men, women with women, absolute bonkers. We're living in a messed up world and worse it's getting. Where does the insanity end?

    I'm glad you don't say please to your waiting staff now cos I'm well aware how they retaliate


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tigger wrote: »
    I can't wait till the recession ends
    I used to say please back at customers who simply said give me such and such
    not ducking downtown abbey Ffs

    I go to our local spar the odd weekend to treat the OH to a breakfast roll.

    The conversation goes as follows:

    Staff: What would you like?
    Me: A breakfast roll please?
    Staff: What would you like in/on it?
    Me: Butter/2 bacon/2 sausage/one egg, and one hash browne please
    Staff: Would you like ketchup/sauce?
    me: Ketchup please.
    Staff: cut in half?
    Me: Yes please?

    Is that not normal or am I some sort of old fart relic?

    Myself and the OH recently managed to get our schedules together so that we were going to meet up in Dublin city centre for a meal. He got delayed, and I was there on my own for over an hour in a new place for us both as our usual was closed. I was made feel incredibly welcome, and well looked after which can be unusual as a woman alone in a bar, and after we had a lovely meal, and were a bit demanding wanting to move tables etc, and got super service, I made a point of seeking out the manager, complimenting them on their staff, and specifically mentioning the particular staff members.

    To me that's just appreciation of very good service that deserves mention, I'm a bit shocked people don't think the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Stheno wrote: »
    I go to our local spar the odd weekend to treat the OH to a breakfast roll.

    The conversation goes as follows:

    Staff: What would you like?
    Me: A breakfast roll please?
    Staff: What would you like in/on it?
    Me: Butter/2 bacon/2 sausage/one egg, and one hash browne please
    Staff: Would you like ketchup/sauce?
    me: Ketchup please.
    Staff: cut in half?
    Me: Yes please?

    Is that not normal or am I some sort of old fart relic?

    Myself and the OH recently managed to get our schedules together so that we were going to meet up in Dublin city centre for a meal. He got delayed, and I was there on my own for over an hour in a new place for us both as our usual was closed. I was made feel incredibly welcome, and well looked after which can be unusual as a woman alone in a bar, and after we had a lovely meal, and were a bit demanding wanting to move tables etc, and got super service, I made a point of seeking out the manager, complimenting them on their staff, and specifically mentioning the particular staff members.

    To me that's just appreciation of very good service that deserves mention, I'm a bit shocked people don't think the same.

    exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭MadMardegan


    Worked in the nightclub industry for 7 years.

    I've seen vile and disgusting behaviour from all walks of life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    When ordering or buying something I never say please, it's a word that's unnecessary and never appleaded to me. I think that word is used due to the over politeness of the English language. However I always say thanks or thank you if the good or service that is delivered is in good order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Only when I read a poster that vehemently disagrees with me in AFTER HOURS. Otherwise never!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Anytime I go to Dunnes really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Everytime I walk down the street.

    In addition to please and thank you mentioned above my parents taught me to move to one side so everyone could share the pavement. Something sadly missed by many these days. Still they also told me to eat my dinner so I grew up to be 6'3 and I just head for the centre of the group and watch it scatter now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NintendoGirl


    Tigger wrote: »

    Watched that episode last night. Laughed my ass off at that song! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    You can tell a lot about someone by how they treat the weakest person in the room. So when someone is rude to waiting staff or doesn't say please and thanks, then I've pretty much formed an opinion about them that may not be altogether positive.

    Weak? because of their job?

    Sounds like you don't exclusively form opinions on rude people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Every day. I work with the public in the health sector. People who lash out at waiting lists, fees, everything. It's very draining and so unnecessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I've said it before on here. If you're incapable of saying please or thank you then you basically are a tosser. I was waiting at the deli in a shop yesterday and when the lad eventually looked up from his phone his initial opening was "Yeah what"....I just walked away without speaking. He's in a customer service position and he couldn't even get the basic principles of that correct. He'll go far...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Occasionally at work but I just ignore them and walk away.

    Worst case I remember didn't even happen to me, Was in SV and the person ahead of me had her trolley filled and was about to pay when she was asked for the loyalty card.

    She forgot to bring it and instead of just paying for the damn shopping started shouting abuse at the young wan at the till, people like that must have been dragged up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    I spend a good chunk of my day in central London, the question should be when do I not experience rudeness?

    They won't break me though, I'll never be one of them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Sam Kade wrote:
    I hate rude behaviour in a man, won't tolerate it.


    But it's fine in a woman?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    Almost never, or near enough to make no difference. We're an insanely polite sort of folk, as a rule. (I live in Dublin city centre, use public transport all the time, and work with the public.) There was a junkie begging on the bridge at Heuston station this morning, his attempt to elicit money from me was "Good morning man, could you spare some change? Oh ok, thanks anyway, have you a spare smoke? OK. Thanks anyway, have a nice day."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Weak? because of their job?

    Sounds like you don't exclusively form opinions on rude people.

    In a situation where you are out for a meal or whatever, and the waiting staff are young and their employment is purely at their managers discretion, you must surely are in a position of power over the waiting staff. If you kick up a fuss 99/100 the manager will side with the customer and the staff get a bollicking. I've been on the staff side of that with particularly rude customers, its no fun and there's nothing you can do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Why are people rude?
    Is it just who they are and can it be helped?
    Or do they even want to change?
    Is it just who they are.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I hate rude behaviour in a man, won't tolerate it.


    It's not gender specific is it really, rude is rude. why should a man being rude be looked at as worse than a woman? confused :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Why are people rude?
    Is it just who they are and can it be helped?
    Or do they even want to change?
    Is it just who they are.

    I think sometimes its just people dont know how to be assertive without being rude.

    I was getting my hair done the other week and the girl had over booked. She was running late for the next client. It was her fault but she openly and sincerly apologised to both of us. She also looked like she was under alot of pressure and she was the only one in the salon.

    The other client still wasnt happy with the apology and kept digging at her instead of accepting that there was nothing else the hairdresser could do and that making smart remarks and sighing was not going to improve anything.

    She finished washing my hair and proceeded to blowdry it and i said "wait i wanted to have it trimmed as well" . At this point she looked like she was about to cry so i just said "look its grand ill just have it blowdried this time". The list of demands the other woman hand were endless and the hairdresser spent more time on her hair.

    so that woman is rude to people because it works for her. It works in her favour and thats why she did it. I personally find it hard to be like that with people because i start to feel sorry for them but then i got a worse service because of that. I think its just about learning to be assertive without being rude.

    Rudeness like purposely bumping into people or snapping at strangers for no reason, i think is some sort of anger release and done out of some kind of superiority complex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Blueboggirl


    I'm working in London right now (not for much longer thank god) I'd say it's 70/30 rude/polite. I've become a robot to cope.
    And I've no idea how we ever crawled out of the sea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Stheno wrote: »
    I go to our local spar the odd weekend to treat the OH to a breakfast roll.

    The conversation goes as follows:

    Staff: What would you like?
    Me: A breakfast roll please?
    Staff: What would you like in/on it?
    Me: Butter/2 bacon/2 sausage/one egg, and one hash browne please
    Staff: Would you like ketchup/sauce?
    me: Ketchup please.
    Staff: cut in half?
    Me: Yes please?

    Is that not normal or am I some sort of old fart relic?

    Myself and the OH recently managed to get our schedules together so that we were going to meet up in Dublin city centre for a meal. He got delayed, and I was there on my own for over an hour in a new place for us both as our usual was closed. I was made feel incredibly welcome, and well looked after which can be unusual as a woman alone in a bar, and after we had a lovely meal, and were a bit demanding wanting to move tables etc, and got super service, I made a point of seeking out the manager, complimenting them on their staff, and specifically mentioning the particular staff members.

    To me that's just appreciation of very good service that deserves mention, I'm a bit shocked people don't think the same.

    I think your way of ordering in a deli is normal, it's exactly how I do it, followed by a smile and "Thanks very much," when the item is handed to me. It's just basic manners.

    I also would seek out management to compliment particularly lovely staff.

    I'd say with working in retail, I experience rudeness every day. However, most of my customers are genuinely lovely people.

    One of them yesterday put her money on the counter while searching for her loyalty card. She wouldn't allow me to take it from the counter when she was paying. She insisted on picking it up and handing it to me because "you and I are equals, I wouldn't dream of making you pick my stuff up, I'll always hand it to you." :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭wilhelm roentgen


    “It is by politeness, etiquette and charity that society is saved from falling into a heap of savagery.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    But it's fine in a woman?
    Never said it was, did you check out the video ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    I work with the general public and I'm a cynical sod, so tis an everyday occurrence for me


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