Wheel spin

laneooo

Well lads,
I have a 2005 focus and im getting wheel spin on wet days every now and then when turning which never happens on dry days front tyres are pretty much new...
Anybody have any ideas on what it could be?
Cheers

sKeith

Cheap tires.

Stheno

laneooo wrote: »

Well lads,
I have a 2005 focus and im getting wheel spin on wet days every now and then when turning which never happens on dry days front tyres are pretty much new...
Anybody have any ideas on what it could be?
Cheers

What brand are your tyres?

laneooo

right is boto
left is constancy

5W30

laneooo wrote: »

right is boto
left is constancy

Cheap tyre brand. That's why they're bad even if they're new.

Having different tyres on each side doesn't help either.

Special Circumstances

laneooo wrote: »

right is boto
left is constancy

Are they nicknames you have for them?
Seriously... what are the brandnames and the model of them?

sKeith

If you want to drive slow all the time in the wet, then these will do. Don't accelerate hard and dont go fast at all in wet until you are well used to them. they will understeer on roundabouts and have trouble stopping (skids).

5W30

Special Circumstances wrote: »

Are they nicknames you have for them?
Seriously... what are the brandnames and the model of them?

http://www.bototyre.com/en/

China wanda rubber group, bao tong is a focus on the production of all-steel radial tire, engineering mechanical radial tire and light truck tire,

http://www.constancytyres.com/

Your reliable tyre manufacturer and exporter!
Constancy brand tyres:Excellent Quality,Competitive prices,Timely delivery and Best after-sale service!
Welcome to friends from home and abroad to have a visit!

Reading the descriptions made me laugh hard

At least the Asians can spell tyre correctly

Marty McFly

Never cheap out on tyres.

In Ireland nearly everyone buys budget tyres which amazes me.

It's of massive importance and becomes even more apparent in bad weather it could be a matter of living or dying at times and I know I always value my life more than a few euros imo.

Special Circumstances

5W30 wrote: »

http://www.bototyre.com/en/


http://www.constancytyres.com/


Reading the descriptions made me laugh hard

At least the Asians can spell tyre correctly

Just when you think the BOTOm of the barrel has been scraped, a new bunch of fly-by-night "shur all the taxi drivers have em" tyre manufacturers appear to appeal to the public's sense of false economy.

New for 2016 - the Wanda Slidewell, the Wanda DyYung and the eco taxi orientated Wanda SatnavWitDat

Brian Scan

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know how you feel about tyres my car had four sunny tyres on them and my god there woeful even tipping around a roundabout can feel the arse kicking out and traction control kicking.

I've got used to being cars with good tyres it's quite scary how little grip cheap tyres give.

My problem I've already spent a fortune on the car and money which was set aside for wheels has now been spent on dpf and glow plug module next week that an decent wheels have popped up and I'm not buying tyres for wheels I hate.

Marty McFly wrote: »

Never cheap out on tyres.

In Ireland nearly everyone buys budget tyres which amazes me.

It's of massive importance and becomes even more apparent in bad weather it could be a matter of living or dying at times and I know I always value my life more than a few euros imo.

Is this not a bit contradictory, Marty?

Special Circumstances

Brian Scan wrote: »

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Is this not a bit contradictory, Marty?

We've all bought a car with tyres on it.
Many of us have found them to be utter China "engineered" muck and replaced them well before they were at their wear limits.

Marty McFly

Brian Scan wrote: »

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Is this not a bit contradictory, Marty?

Not really sInce you nit picking lines if you read my full post I pointed out I've never had cheap tyres these tyres were on the car when I bought it and will be changed because as I said there woeful I've never bought cheap tyres.

So to answer your question not contradictory at all.

MuppetCheck

Sure if you're reading around here you'll be fine as long as you don't speed, ever get yourself in a situation where you need to avoid other road users, go to mass daily, say the rosary at six o'clock...

The solutions going to cost a few quid. If you Google some local to you partworn suppliers it will probably be the most cost effective solution.

laneooo

sKeith wrote: »

If you want to drive slow all the time in the wet, then these will do. Don't accelerate hard and dont go fast at all in wet until you are well used to them. they will understeer on roundabouts and have trouble stopping (skids).

U summed up exactly what is happening and what i've been doing.
Guess it's the tyres then which seem right just couldn't think of what else it could be I'll move em to the back i guess any ideas on what i should get?

Brian Scan

Marty McFly wrote: »

Not really sInce you nit picking lines if you read my full post I pointed out I've never had cheap tyres these tyres were on the car when I bought it and will be changed because as I said there woeful I've never bought cheap tyres.

So to answer your question not contradictory at all.

Thanks, Marty.

laneooo

sKeith wrote: »

If you want to drive slow all the time in the wet, then these will do. Don't accelerate hard and dont go fast at all in wet until you are well used to them. they will understeer on roundabouts and have trouble stopping (skids).

U summed up exactly what is happening and what i've been doing.
Guess it's the tyres then which seem right just couldn't think of what else it could be I'll move em to the back i guess any ideas on what i should get?
Edit:Don't mind paying a bit more even 90 a tyre or more all i need is two

5W30

What tyre size?

You should be able to get good quality tyres for less than 90 euro a tyre!

laneooo

5W30 wrote: »

What tyre size?

You should be able to get good quality tyres for less than 90 euro a tyre!

205 55R 16

BohsCeltic

Anyone else getting a giggle out of Marty McFly posting today

5W30

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Anyone else getting a giggle out of Mary McFly posting today

Mary who?!

BohsCeltic

5W30 wrote: »

Mary who?!

Knew it didn't look right at first

BMJD

We really need proper tyre standards to be introduced across the EU, a lot of these brands are downright dangerous.

challengemaster

BMJD wrote: »

We really need proper tyre standards to be introduced across the EU, a lot of these brands are downright dangerous.

Just blanket ban Chinese tyres and you'd solve 90% of the issues.

Toyotafanboi

laneooo wrote: »

U summed up exactly what is happening and what i've been doing.
Guess it's the tyres then which seem right just couldn't think of what else it could be I'll move em to the back i guess any ideas on what i should get?

Putting ditch finders on the rear is extra dangerous.

laneooo

Im looking at bridgestone weather control a001 at 86 euros they ok?

punisher5112

op DO NOT put them tyres on the rear.

You will lose the rear end faster on a corner or roundabout.

If they are bad on front what makes you think it be any better on back.

sKeith

bridgestone is a serious step up.

CJhaughey

laneooo wrote: »

Im looking at bridgestone weather control a001 at 86 euros they ok?

Good tyres, grip well in most conditions in this country.
Have a look at Oponeo as well. they have very good all season tyres, I just bought a set of Nokian Weatherproof and find them very good, quiet as well.
Grip in cold damp conditions is excellent.

laneooo

punisher5112 wrote: »

op DO NOT put them tyres on the rear.

You will lose the rear end faster on a corner or roundabout.

If they are bad on front what makes you think it be any better on back.

My guess is there summer tyres cos when it's dry i have no problems but I'll see just wanna stop the wheel spin before the weather gets worse paid 55 each for them about 3 months ago

challengemaster

laneooo wrote: »

My guess is there summer tyres cos when it's dry i have no problems but I'll see just wanna stop the wheel spin before the weather gets worse paid 55 each for them about 3 months ago

The problem is not that they're summer tyres - the problem is they're cheap shít.

The majority of Irish road users don't ever buy anything other than summer tyres, and in most cases they will never need to either. Winter tyres make life a bit easier, but even with the really bad winters over the last few years - summer tyres are still fine provided you're a competent driver.

sunnysoutheast

challengemaster wrote: »

Just blanket ban Chinese tyres and you'd solve 90% of the issues.

There's certainly an argument for banning tyres that don't meet (say) a certain standard of wet braking performance, if only to protect other people.

laneooo

challengemaster wrote: »

The problem is not that they're summer tyres - the problem is they're cheap shít.

The majority of Irish road users don't ever buy anything other than summer tyres, and in most cases they will never need to either. Winter tyres make life a bit easier, but even with the really bad winters over the last few years - summer tyres are still fine provided you're a competent driver.

5 Mins in the car and u would understand im not an aggressive driver...Think I'll go with the bridgestone's Thanks all for the help!

punisher5112

laneooo wrote: »

5 Mins in the car and u would understand im not an aggressive driver...Think I'll go with the bridgestone's Thanks all for the help!

You have learned well.

Never ever put cheap rubber on again.

5W30

punisher5112 wrote: »

You have learned well.

Never ever put cheap rubber on again.

That applies not only to car tyres. Wink wink

dar83

He'll learn sideways to backwards if he puts those things on the rear and bridgestones on the front!

Jesus.

challengemaster wrote: »

Just blanket ban Chinese tyres and you'd solve 90% of the issues.

Yeah that's what we need. A monopoly on tyres to fleece the sh1t out of everyone :rolleyes:

MugMugs

Jesus. wrote: »

Yeah that's what we need. A monopoly on tyres to fleece the sh1t out of everyone :rolleyes:

Eh, what? Ban unsafe tyres. Any monopoly had as a result is just a safe monopoly.

Jesus.

Unsafe in your opinion?

Toyotafanboi

Jesus. wrote: »

Unsafe in your opinion?

It's pretty much proven by any comparison test out there. As was pointed out, a ban on tyres that fail a wet braking test of some sort would be ideal.

JohnBoy26

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Sure if you're reading around here you'll be fine as long as you don't speed, ever get yourself in a situation where you need to avoid other road users, go to mass daily, say the rosary at six o'clock...

The solutions going to cost a few quid. If you Google some local to you partworn suppliers it will probably be the most cost effective solution.

I haven't seen a good set of partworn in years. Most i've seen are 7-15 years old.

Jesus.

Oh God. I cant do this again. I haven't got the will.

Nope, it ain't worth it Fanboi. So long

punisher5112

Jesus. wrote: »

Oh God. I cant do this again. I haven't got the will.

Nope, it ain't worth it Fanboi. So long

Cry me a river

punisher5112

tyres are the only part of any vehicle that keep them on a road or up right when off road.

I have years of experience with many many different car makes, models and tyres from not one matching brand and the worst china has to offer to the some of the best performance tyres.

I would never buy a bad tyre or when driving a car with bad tyres I feel unsafe.

johnny osbourne

wear lighter shoes

CiniO

Marty McFly wrote: »

Never cheap out on tyres.

In Ireland nearly everyone buys budget tyres which amazes me.

It's of massive importance and becomes even more apparent in bad weather it could be a matter of living or dying at times and I know I always value my life more than a few euros imo.

On the one side, good tyres in Ireland should be even more popular than anywhere else considering how much rain we get and how often we drive on wet surface.

On the other hand, road surface used on many Irish roads, wears down tyres about 3 or even 4 times quicker than f.e. on roads on the Continent.

I could do 60k kilometres on a set of tyres on the continent, while in Ireland I only do 15k.
That quadruples cost of tyres for Irish motorists.

Quick calculation that f.e. set of decent brand of tyres for €500 which lasts 15k kilometres, will cost me €3.33 per 100km.
Fuel consumption at 5.5l/100km = €6.66 per 100km.
Total €10 per 100 km, out of which 2/3 on fuel, and 1/3 on tyres.

No surprise most people want to cut down this cost.

Eric Cartman

CiniO wrote: »

On the one side, good tyres in Ireland should be even more popular than anywhere else considering how much rain we get and how often we drive on wet surface.

On the other hand, road surface used on many Irish roads, wears down tyres about 3 or even 4 times quicker than f.e. on roads on the Continent.

I could do 60k kilometres on a set of tyres on the continent, while in Ireland I only do 15k.
That quadruples cost of tyres for Irish motorists.

Quick calculation that f.e. set of decent brand of tyres for €500 which lasts 15k kilometres, will cost me €3.33 per 100km.
Fuel consumption at 5.5l/100km = €6.66 per 100km.
Total €10 per 100 km, out of which 2/3 on fuel, and 1/3 on tyres.

No surprise most people want to cut down this cost.

thats grand, write to the government about the road surface so. Endangering yourself or others by using rock hard rubber ditchfinders is like lighting yourself on fire in protest.

good roads, bad roads - premium tyres are the only way to go. heres a good bar - if its cheaper than kumho then theres something wrong with it. Those are about the cheapest mid-level tyres that are alright for the country that should be renamed rainland.

colm_mcm

OP, the good news is that your tyre size isn't too dear, place near me does pirellis for €80 each

MuppetCheck

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I haven't seen a good set of partworn in years. Most i've seen are 7-15 years old.

I threw a set on a car before it was sold last year, year stamp said they were about 18 months old at most. Maybe you're looking in the wrong place?

CiniO

Eric Cartman wrote: »

thats grand, write to the government about the road surface so. Endangering yourself or others by using rock hard rubber ditchfinders is like lighting yourself on fire in protest.

Well, where did I say it's grand that people use ditch finders and blamed the government.
I was just trying to explain, why ditchfinders are so popular in Ireland.

good roads, bad roads - premium tyres are the only way to go. heres a good bar - if its cheaper than kumho then theres something wrong with it. Those are about the cheapest mid-level tyres that are alright for the country that should be renamed rainland.

Hmmm. My tyres were cheaper than Kumho, but I believe they provide better grip.
It's not as simple as the more expensive the better the tyre is.
There are great variances, and you can get really reasonable tyres cheap, and you can get really crap ones quite expensive.
Very often, even 2 models from the same manufacturer differ greatly in their abilities, while pricewise are similar.
There is no just one simple answer.

challengemaster

CiniO wrote: »

I was just trying to explain, why ditchfinders are so popular in Ireland.

I think you're giving people too much credit as a whole. There's no calculations going on of costs per km. Irish motorists tend to be very much penny smart and pound foolish - just take a look at motor tax and how much people will pay to save a miniscule amount of money per year. Or the way people flock towards fuel that's priced way too cheap to be legitimate and then complain when their engine fails. Or the vast amount of corner cutting during repairs. Bald tyres...The NCT is a scam.... etc etc.

The reality is the average Irish motorist is a poorly educated idiot who just does not care when it comes to vehicular safety and balancing cost vs risk.