Woman arrested after man dies in flight

Ghost Train

Sounds like a bit of strange story, man had to be restrained after biting somebody

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1019/735776-aer-lingus-death/

SteelyDanJalapeno

He had a fit? But that might make the op less sensational

whiskeyman

Woman arrested at Cork airport for drugs offences. Appears to be travelling with the man.
I reckon the man probably ingested or his possible 'stash' erupted, causing his fit, and ultimately death.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1019/735776-aer-lingus-death/

amdublin

TiltedBrain wrote: »

He had a fit? But that might make the op less sensational

Travelling partners of people who have fits don't tend to get arrested. I really don't think the op is over sensationalised.

bucketybuck

TiltedBrain wrote: »

He had a fit? But that might make the op less sensational

How could the op be any less sensational, its just one line?

"Sounds like a bit of a strange story", woooah, slow down with the inflammatory words there mate!!!

circadian

It's happening. The zombie apocalypse is upon us.

Gehad_JoyRider

The Zombies have landed

Kermit.de.frog

amdublin wrote: »

Travelling partners of people who have fits don't tend to get arrested. I really don't think the op is over sensationalised.

Speculating - drugs, swallowed perhaps to try avoid detection, maybe bag broke in stomach or something.

Only speculating. It's the first thing I thought of when I heard of the arrest.

gandalf

As whiskeyman said he was probably a "courier" and his package ruptured.

Menas

Good to see that the garda were thorough here, searching the bags in the hold etc...

haveringchick

Menas wrote: »

Good to see that the garda were thorough here, searching the bags in the hold etc...

What do you mean?

Two bags of powder found in the woman's bag according to today fm.

kneemos

Ghost Train wrote: »

Sounds like a bit of strange story, man had to be restrained after biting somebody

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1019/735776-aer-lingus-death/

The bite was involuntary when he was the fit.

Stranger Danger

Headline writers will have a field day with this story I fear.


Fright for White Knight who get Bite in Drugs Blight Flight

gramar

Stranger Danger wrote: »

Headline writers will have a field day with this story I fear.


Fright for White Knight who get Bite in Drugs Blight Flight

Expect the Indo to be in touch very soon. Your future is bright.

5starpool

I feel sorry for the person (presumably innocent) who was bitten. As for the dead person and his partner, if it was in the name of drugs then they got what they deserved.

haveringchick

Cue some minor gangland thug ham-fistedly shooting another minor gangland thug over the failure of the shipment to arrive.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

I think the person who was bitten was trying to help the guy who was having the seizure. He was probably trying to stop him from swallowing his tongue and the seizure caused his jaw to lock shut. I don't think it was zombie apocalypse style feeding on the flesh of the living stuff.

CFlat

People don't swallow their tongue having a fit. It's one of those urban myth type things. In fact the last thing you do is put your hand near their mouth cause they certainly can bite down and cause damage.

So I was told on an Occ First Aid Course I did recently. You just give them space, on a flat surface if you can, and let the fit take its course.

hadepsx

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

I think the person who was bitten was trying to help the guy who was having the seizure. He was probably trying to stop him from swallowing his tongue and the seizure caused his jaw to lock shut. I don't think it was zombie apocalypse style feeding on the flesh of the living stuff.

What? You mean I've to put away my shotgun and trusty knife.

Mint Sauce

CFlat wrote: »

People don't swallow their tongue having a fit. It's one of those urban myth type things. In fact the last thing you do is put your hand near their mouth cause they certainly can bite down and cause damage.

So I was told on an Occ First Aid Course I did recently. You just give them space, on a flat surface if you can, and let the fit take its course.

But I am sure in the confines of an Airline Cabin, or in any other environment where there are immovable object, you would place hands gently on limbs or atleast hover them over to prevent the casualty causing injury to them selfs.

BattleCorp

CFlat wrote: »

You just give them space, on a flat surface if you can, and let the fit take its course.

I got berated for using the word "fit" recently. Apparently it's now called a "seizure".

I must have missed that memo.

brian_7070

5starpool wrote: »

I feel sorry for the person (presumably innocent) who was bitten. As for the dead person and his partner, if it was in the name of drugs then they got what they deserved.

I always feel a little sorry for drug mules not too many do it out of choice

sashafierce

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BattleCorp

sashafierce wrote: »

Out of curiousity where does responsibility lie with regards this substance getting through security?

It's the security services in the Airport who are responsible for trying to stop drugs getting through. Customs etc. It's impossible to stop it all getting through though, but they do have occasional successful interception.

seamus

5starpool wrote: »

As for the dead person and his partner, if it was in the name of drugs then they got what they deserved.

That's a bit harsh. No doubt a series of poor life choices led him to this point, but that doesn't mean he deserved to die for them.

Wealthy drug barons don't carry their own drugs in their stomach. It's highly likely this guy basically had no choice, and himself or his family were in danger if he didn't do it.

colm_mcm

sashafierce wrote: »

Out of curiousity where does responsibility lie with regards this substance getting through security?

Maybe the deceased mans relatives can sue security for not intercepting the substances!

(not that there's any confirmation that there were drugs involved)

BattleCorp

colm_mcm wrote: »

Maybe the deceased mans relatives can sue security for not intercepting the substances!

(not that there's any confirmation that there were drugs involved)

Are you for real??? :eek:


Seriously, have a think about that for a minute.

sashafierce

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colm_mcm

BattleCorp wrote: »

Are you for real??? :eek:


Seriously, have a think about that for a minute.

Maybe a rolleyes would have been in order back there



here
:rolleyes:

BattleCorp

colm_mcm wrote: »

Maybe a rolleyes would have been in order back there



here
:rolleyes:

Ah, you were being sarcastic.

Is this the appropriate smilie for me?

Calahonda52

BattleCorp wrote: »

I got berated for using the word "fit" recently. Apparently it's now called a "seizure".

I must have missed that memo.

So not fit for purpose calling it a seizure or visa versa:eek:

haveringchick

sashafierce wrote: »

Thats what I was thinking, had they been spotted he might of lived, impossible im sure considering!

Yes. Sue Customs and the Gardaí because none of them noticed that this guy had swallowed the drugs that he was bringing to Ireland to poison our kids.
Of course.

Badly Drunk Boy

haveringchick wrote: »

Yes. Sue Customs and the Gardaí because none of them noticed that this guy had swallowed the drugs that he was bringing to Ireland to poison our kids.
Of course.

The Portuguese Customs and the Portuguese Gardaí (as they like to be called).

sashafierce

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Bunny12345

He didn't fly so good. Who wants to try next?

homerjay2005

sashafierce wrote: »

Out of curiousity where does responsibility lie with regards this substance getting through security?

The person carrying it.

Spanish Eyes

The little drug and money sniffer doggies would have caught it in Dublin.

Spanish Eyes

A passenger who was on the flight is being interviewed on Newstalk at the moment.

Kev W

BattleCorp wrote: »

I got berated for using the word "fit" recently. Apparently it's now called a "seizure".

I must have missed that memo.

We also don't say "must have missed that memo" anymore.

Hate to break it to you.

kneemos

Kev W wrote: »

We also don't say "must have missed that memo" anymore.

Hate to break it to you.

Didn't hear about this.When was this changed?

Bunny12345

kneemos wrote: »

Didn't hear about this.When was this changed?

I think you missed that memo

BattleCorp

Kev W wrote: »

We also don't say "must have missed that memo" anymore.

Hate to break it to you.

Awwww sh1t. What do I say now?

Kev W

BattleCorp wrote: »

Awwww sh1t. What do I say now?

"I did not know that, thanks."

BattleCorp

Kev W wrote: »

"I did not know that, thanks."

Admit I didn't know something, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NachoBusiness

In fairness, the food on Aer Lingus flights is terrible. Was inevitable sooner or later someone would start eating other passengers.

CFlat

BattleCorp wrote: »

I got berated for using the word "fit" recently. Apparently it's now called a "seizure".

I must have missed that memo.

The PC community have gone into overdrive recently. You open your mouth, you offend someone.

CFlat

Mint Sauce wrote: »

But I am sure in the confines of an Airline Cabin, or in any other environment where there are immovable object, you would place hands gently on limbs or atleast hover them over to prevent the casualty causing injury to them selfs.

That's the strange thing about doing courses like these and they 'test' you with compliant patients. When the real thing happens a lot of those protocals probably go out the window. I've no idea what is the best thing to do on an airplane would have been. I'm sure what they did was a good as it gets in that scenario.

We were just told to remove all sharp objects, put the patient in an open flat area and wait till the 'seizure' abates and NEVER put your hand in their mouth or you could lose a finger, which apparently has happened.

seamus

CFlat wrote: »

We were just told to remove all sharp objects, put the patient in an open flat area and wait till the 'seizure' abates and NEVER put your hand in their mouth or you could lose a finger, which apparently has happened.

Myths about putting things between their teeth and trying to save their tongue still abound unfortunately.

Anyway, since in this case it wasn't an epileptic seizure, I doubt the man's teeth were necessarily locked in place. I'd say someone was trying to move his head or otherwise managed to get his arm in the way of the dying man's teeth while he was writhing around in the death throes.

OldGoat

seamus wrote: »

Myths about putting things between their teeth and trying to save their tongue still abound unfortunately.

Anyway, since in this case it wasn't an epileptic seizure, I doubt the man's teeth were necessarily locked in place. I'd say someone was trying to move his head or otherwise managed to get his arm in the way of the dying man's teeth while he was writhing around in the death throes.

If the man vomited and started to choke someone may have tried clearing his airway.

Samaris

colm_mcm wrote: »

Maybe the deceased mans relatives can sue security for not intercepting the substances!

(not that there's any confirmation that there were drugs involved)

"We will now start randomly selecting passengers for routine open abdominal surgery. Thank you for your co-operation."