10 months in Ireland, should I move?

Asmooh

I moved to Ireland because they were (and still are) looking for people with Dutch language skills. I didn't feel directly at home but after a month it started to feel like it.

I absolutely like it here and I like my job and I basically have nothing to complain about, except the part that I will never be able to drive a normal car in my life again.


It's like you want a family but when you move country your wife and you (or other way around) will never be able to get kids unless you move. No matter how much you like it at the place you will always be reminded to it


When I moved here I didn't think it would be this hard, public transport is awesome when you are living in the dart or short hop zone, but I don't want to stay here forever

I want to be able to use a car I the weekend, one that is mine not rented or anything. Something that looks nice, but based on the insurance prices I can choose between a car and have a home (and yes I tried every one of them) .


So my question is, what would you do? Move anywhere else or give up everything. (Take the family example)

I'm completely lost.

Do you want to migrate, or do you want a car, or do you want to start a family?

Sunnyisland

Sorry OP but wtf do you mean you can't drive a normal car ever again ?

Are you looking to buy a smart car ?

Qualitymark

Get a house. When you've been paying for it for a bit you'll be able to afford a car. Meanwhile, if it's just for the weekend, car hire isn't that dear. And get a bike!

For Forks Sake

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm completely lost.

Do you want to migrate, or do you want a car, or do you want to start a family?

He wants to start a family in a car while migrating, I think.

Asmooh

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, (I paid 66 before for the same car before I moved here) no money left for living anywhere.

Asmooh

realies wrote: »

Sorry OP but wtf do you mean you can't drive a normal car ever again ?

Are you looking to buy a smart car ?

Normal car is everything that does 0-100 in less than 7 seconds while being rear wheel drive a "sporty"

gramar

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, no money left for living anywhere.

Are you driving a Ferrari in demolition derbies?

Sunnyisland

Asmooh wrote: »

Normal car is everything that does 0-100 in less than 7 seconds while being rear wheel drive a "sporty"

OK, so why can't you get one and why would you move country's ?

Asmooh

realies wrote: »

OK, so why can't you get one and why would you move country's ?

Because it costs 2000 a month so my full salary.

Balmed Out

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, no money left for living anywhere.

If your driving history would result in a 2000 per month car insurance premium then I think your family we'd all be a lot better off if you never ever drive.

Sunnyisland

Is this thread about moving abroad or buying a car ?

LordSutch

Better still, get a bike with four wheels and a roof, that way you can stay dry when driving to the dart.

Asmooh

gramar wrote: »

Are you driving a Ferrari in demolition derbies?

I just want my Porsche Boxster back, I paid about 60-70 euros or so before.

osarusan

What kind of car is a 'normal' car?

How old are you and what is your insurance record?

€2000 seems very high but maybe I am just out of touch with the prices.

circadian

Asmooh wrote: »

Normal car is everything that does 0-100 in less than 7 seconds while being rear wheel drive a "sporty"

There's plenty of cars on the roads like this, why can't you get one? Also, why would this be a point to migrate if you're happy with everything else and finally where are you planning on driving day to day that requires this acceleration?? Hardly going to be horsing it down the M50 at rush hour.

Liam McPoyle

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, no money left for living anywhere.

So an insurer quoted you €24,000 for an annual premium?

GTFO tbh.

If any insurance companies were quoting a premium of even 25% of that money I'd be reporting them to the financial services ombudsman.

If an insurer are going to quote you then there are rules in place that the premium has to be fair versus the risk.

If not then all insurers would quote people they didn't want on their books that kind of money.

Unless you are driving a Bugatti Veyron then something is very wrong.

Asmooh

Balmed Out wrote: »

If your driving history would result in a 2000 per month car insurance premium then I think your family we'd all be a lot better off if you never ever drive.

I never got a accident or anything, it's because I don't have Irish driving experience

Asmooh

osarusan wrote: »

What kind of car is a 'normal' car?

How old are you and what is your insurance record?

€2000 seems very high but maybe I am just out of touch with the prices.

I want my old Porsche Boxster back, 2.7 or 3.2
30 years old, transferred my drivers license to Irish , don't have Ncb and living less than a year in Ireland, drivers license for almost 10 years and never got a accident

All those things count

gramar

Asmooh wrote: »

I never got a accident or anything, it's because I don't have Irish driving experience

Greatest driving experience in the world...ditches whizzing past at 90 miles an hour on narrow country roads....can't beat it!

Asmooh

realies wrote: »

Is this thread about moving abroad or buying a car ?

Both; a choose between or moving and able to have a car or stick around and not be able to.

Qualitymark

Asmooh wrote: »

Because it costs 2000 a month so my full salary.

Ah.

This is the problem we all face when we grow up. Can we have our boyish fun, and also found a family and a secure home.

Nope.

kneemos

I think you should move.

Asmooh

Qualitymark wrote: »

Ah.

This is the problem we all face when we grow up. Can we have our boyish fun, and also found a family and a secure home.

Nope.

maybe im not ready for growing up already, but still doesnt answer my question

Sunnyisland

Could you not buy your car and move into it...



And then drive away

Asmooh

realies wrote: »

Could you not buy your car and move into it...



And then drive away

haha, thats an option XD

Tilly

Why can't you buy a cheaper car with low engine size?

carrotcake

OP, have you tried Clements for insurance? They specialise in insurance for expats. Have a look on the Motors forum for more info.

Tilly

Tilly wrote: »

Why can't you buy a cheaper car with low engine size?

Like a "normal car".

Porsche's are not "normal"

uck51js9zml2yt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Like a "normal car".

Porsche's are not "normal"

Porches are not family cars. Try fitting a child seat in one.

Badly Drunk Boy

Tilly wrote: »

Why can't you buy a cheaper car with low engine size?

And that would also give the OP some Irish driving experience, while having a room over his head. The fancy car can wait.

bucketybuck

When you said you speak Dutch did you mean double dutch?

Qualitymark

Original (slightly confusing) question:

Asmooh wrote: »

I moved to Ireland because they were (and still are) looking for people with Dutch language skills. I didn't feel directly at home but after a month it started to feel like it.

I absolutely like it here and I like my job and I basically have nothing to complain about, except the part that I will never be able to drive a normal car in my life again.


It's like you want a family but when you move country your wife and you (or other way around) will never be able to get kids unless you move. No matter how much you like it at the place you will always be reminded to it


When I moved here I didn't think it would be this hard, public transport is awesome when you are living in the dart or short hop zone, but I don't want to stay here forever

I want to be able to use a car I the weekend, one that is mine not rented or anything. Something that looks nice, but based on the insurance prices I can choose between a car and have a home (and yes I tried every one of them) .


So my question is, what would you do? Move anywhere else or give up everything. (Take the family example)

Asmooh wrote: »

maybe im not ready for growing up already, but still doesnt answer my question

Umm, actually, it does. You can be a lad with a flashy car, or you can be a husband with responsibility. Your choice. Choose carefully.

jamesbere

Buy a Honda civic, replace all the badges with Porsche one's and put Porsche stickers on the side of the car. Also get a sticker that says no fear and put it on the back windscreen.

fizzypish

I don't understand. You want to move because you can't afford to insure your Ferrari? Even a skyline on a provisional license wouldn't cost that much. And more confusing, why do you want to have kids, Fck that! Get a fast lesser brand name car.

ejabrod

Is this a fúcking joke?

Qualitymark

This is the dilemma:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVmOU8HPf_E

murpho999

Asmooh wrote: »

I never got a accident or anything, it's because I don't have Irish driving experience

Proof that you are definitely Dutch as that's what I hear Dutchies say all the time.

However I don't believe you were quoted €24k a year for Car Insurance unless your surname is Verstappen.

Shop around. If you have a Dutch licence, it's an EU licence so should be no problem and my wife(Also Dutch) was not penalised in any way when she moved here.
Also, make sure to get a no claims cert from your insurer in NL if you had one.

Only other suggestion is to exchange your Dutch licence for an Irish one and then insurance companies won't question you at all.

However, in my experience insurance companies here are happy with an EU licence and ask no more questions.

inforfun

Yes, because driving a cBoxter in Holland is cheap.

Now unless you only want to park it in front of your house and not use fuel, with a difference of about 30 cent per liter you will pretty soon earned back the difference in insurance and motortax (if there is a difference in tax, which i assume there is)

When you actually drive a normal car here, it is much much cheaper here than in Holland. (source: experience)
Yes, your first year of insurance you ll be ****ed without kissing first but after that it isnt so bad.
Most annoying is that you have to switch insurance companies on a yearly basis to get the best deals.

I did compare with Holland when i just had bought my fist car here:
Car itself > cheapest i could find on line in Holland was €2000 more expensive than i paid
Motortax: About 60% of what it would have cost me in Holland.

Yeah, the insurance was a bit hit but mostly because i had lost my NCB because it expired.
2nd year my insurance went down with about 40% because having 1 year ncb all of a sudden opened the door to many more insurance companies.

murpho999 wrote: »

Only other suggestion is to exchange your Dutch licence for an Irish one and then insurance companies won't question you at all.

However, in my experience insurance companies here are happy with an EU licence and ask no more questions.

Murph is right. Just change it for an irish one. Sooner or later you ll have to anyway.
Unfortunately i had to when they were still made on someone's kitchen table with a laminate machine from Argos so any time i am back in Holland i hope i am not checked for a license there.
Because you ll have a hard time convincing the police in Holland you didnt actually made that license yourself.

gandalf

If you are going for a car beyond the norm then yes you will get screwed by the insurance companies. If you're dream is to drive a Porsche then yes I would recommend you move elsewhere.

As for driving experience. When my wife who isn't from here finally decided to get a car she was shocked at the insurance costs she was quoted even though she has been driving for years in another European country. None of that experience was taken into account. We just had to suck it up and pay the high premiums for the first couple of years.

TBH if you are missing where you are from then coming to Ireland has been a useful exercise. It's help you realise what you value.

I'd love to have a flashy car, not a Porsche but maybe a Mustang but I am a father and that is currently not feasible. So I drive a sensible estate car instead and when I hit the accelerator it farts slightly and gradually gets faster!

crazygeryy

Yes.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, (I paid 66 before for the same car before I moved here) no money left for living anywhere.

€24,000 a year for insurance! What the hell were you considering insuring? A formula 1 car perhaps? That's a ridiculous figure. If your semi mature, have a full licence and buy a small engine car you should be able to get insurance for less than €2000 a year!

I'm lost with regard to the rest of your post.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Are you saying you couldn't have a nice car and a house? You've lost me. I managed both without ever really thinking about it.

Come on, take a deep breath. What really is the issue?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Asmooh wrote: »

Actually, The car insurance will take about 2000 a month, (I paid 66 before for the same car before I moved here) no money left for living anywhere.

Bull! No way on earth is motor insurance 2000 per month. Read it again.

The Mulk

Buy a micra/yaris, drive to Mondello, hire a porsche
http://www.mondellopark.ie/supercar/

RayCon

Weigh up your priorities (what gives you the best quality of life) and whichever country offers you most (Netherlands or Ireland) - go there.

weisses

Asmooh wrote: »

I never got a accident or anything, it's because I don't have Irish driving experience

You can bring over your no claims bonus from the Netherlands .. Unless you don't have any ... You don't need Irish driving experience afaik

seamus

I don't believe you that the cheapest quote you got on a sports car at 30 years of age is €24,000. Just straight up, don't believe you.

In any case, if you want a family, you're done with flash sports cars for at least 18 years. At 50 you'll be making better money and you can have a lovely children-embarrassing midlife crisis then where you proudly parade your balding head and moobs around town with the top down on your Porsche.
If you're not willing to give up on the dream of getting back in a flash car, then the first two years of parenthood are going to be a kick in the crotch as you slowly realise that your dream is gone and isn't coming back.

You can raise children in an apartment in the city. I wouldn't, but I know people who do.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ah, I get it now. OP on the motoring forum you ask about high performance track tyres and bemoan the fact that you can't use the straight stretches of public roads to test your car. No insurance is too expensive for drivers like that.

asherbassad

Asmooh wrote: »

I moved to Ireland because they were (and still are) looking for people with Dutch language skills. I didn't feel directly at home but after a month it started to feel like it.

I absolutely like it here and I like my job and I basically have nothing to complain about, except the part that I will never be able to drive a normal car in my life again.


It's like you want a family but when you move country your wife and you (or other way around) will never be able to get kids unless you move. No matter how much you like it at the place you will always be reminded to it


When I moved here I didn't think it would be this hard, public transport is awesome when you are living in the dart or short hop zone, but I don't want to stay here forever

I want to be able to use a car I the weekend, one that is mine not rented or anything. Something that looks nice, but based on the insurance prices I can choose between a car and have a home (and yes I tried every one of them) .


So my question is, what would you do? Move anywhere else or give up everything. (Take the family example)

Is your problem driving on the left side of the road instead of the right like in Holland?

It's not that difficult.

inforfun

Driving on the wrong side isnt the problem.
Not being able to insure a cockster for 66 per 3 months is the issue