This Fawning Of Rugby

JONJO THE MISER · 11-10-2015 2:34pm #1

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 11-10-2015 2:35pm

Who cares if the common man likes it? Or if it represents him?

11-10-2015 2:36pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

Living up to your name there fella

kneemos · 11-10-2015 2:37pm

The common man has the Queens Football.The elite are entitled to their day out.

Skid X · 11-10-2015 2:37pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

Some people have a very low opinion of their ancestors.

I doubt if they all had giant chips on their shoulders.

PirateShampoo · 11-10-2015 2:37pm

It started when you got good.

Qiaonasen · 11-10-2015 2:37pm

Rugby is pure ****e. I respond by not watching it or caring what other people are doing.

Stheno · 11-10-2015 2:37pm

kneemos wrote: »

The common man has the Queens Football.The elite are entitled to their day out.

Tell that to the common people of Limerick :pac:

kneemos · 11-10-2015 2:38pm

Qiaonasen wrote: »

Rugby is pure ****e. I respond by not watching it or caring what other people are doing.

They don't deserve a response.

questionmark? · 11-10-2015 2:39pm

Level of uninformed bull**** is off the scale.

It's not the 1950's anymore. Clubs are starting all around the country, played by people of all backrounds who play week in week out. The whole country is not based in D4!

One eyed Jack · 11-10-2015 2:39pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

I can't tell if this is meant to be an unpopular opinion intended to stir shyte, or if it really is evidence of someone who is simply ill-informed.

Either way, the whole thing is just wrong, on so many levels.

RobbieTheRobber · 11-10-2015 2:40pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

Are you trying to make yourself into some sort of vague celtic\gaelic elitist, by refusing to accept this foreign sport?

JONJO THE MISER · 11-10-2015 2:42pm

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Herb Powell · 11-10-2015 2:42pm

Jonjo you're some langer biy

eeguy · 11-10-2015 2:44pm

Elitist?

The Irish team that played against Italy had represented 11 counties of the island of Ireland. Much more representative of the country than football.

And unlike soccer, where you have to travel to England to see top Irish players compete at club level, you can travel to the RDS or Thomond park every week to watch the Irish rugby team play at club level.

Ancestors of many people? What does that mean. In fairness, most ancestors would spin in their graves if they knew Ireland had a soccer team. Rule 42 anyone?

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

The irony is these same people are out supporting Man City or Chelsea at the weekend.

The_Valeyard · 11-10-2015 2:44pm

COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN

Guy:Incognito · 11-10-2015 2:46pm

The Rugby Elitism.

From the Years training on a mucky hillside we didnt own above tallaght under one light with no clubhouse or showers to the progression of a flat bit of pitch in firhouse we dont own under the same light , still with no clubhouse or showers all the while playing on a council pitch in Tymon park using the school nearby for changing and showering.

Soak in the elitism bitches.

The Backwards Man · 11-10-2015 2:46pm

I know plenty of over 40s that are rugby mad, I think that says more about the people you know than the sport JonJo.

kneemos · 11-10-2015 2:46pm

Stheno wrote: »

Tell that to the common people of Limerick :pac:

Had three Limerickerians for breakfast,spat out the nuts.

questionmark? · 11-10-2015 2:47pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Funnily enough I'm from a rural part of he country and a lot of the biggest supporters of rugby are over 40 with many been GAA heads as well. Funny that hey!

I don't see many English landlords around rural Ireland these days either!

One eyed Jack · 11-10-2015 2:48pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Over 40? In the cities? West Brits?

Oh, not one person you know...

Well, that's ok then, for a minute there I thought you were speaking objectively.

endacl · 11-10-2015 2:49pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Type that as Gaeilge. Ye feckin' west brit.

:mad:

Rabo Karabekian · 11-10-2015 2:49pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Things change. I'm sure those same ancestors would be turning in their graves at a lot of what we do.

I still see rugby as an elitist sport, but I know that's based on what rugby was 20 years ago more than it is now. The popularity of the sport is based on the team not being as bad as we were previously: we're winning things (albeit the six nations, but we may get past the quarter finals of the world cup) which means more support and more people playing it. So it'll be less and less elitist which is a good thing.

JONJO THE MISER · 11-10-2015 2:51pm

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

questionmark? · 11-10-2015 2:51pm

eeguy wrote: »

Elitist?

The Irish team that played against Italy had represented 11 counties of the island of Ireland. Much more representative of the country than football.

And unlike soccer, where you have to travel to England to see top Irish players compete at club level, you can travel to the RDS or Thomond park every week to watch the Irish rugby team play at club level.

Ancestors of many people? What does that mean. In fairness, most ancestors would spin in their graves if they knew Ireland had a soccer team. Rule 42 anyone?

The irony is these same people are out supporting Man City or Chelsea at the weekend.

A lot of English people play for the Irish soccer team. Look at the joke of people calling Jack Grealish a turncoat. The lad is English with English parents not really much of a turncoat as it turned out!

suicide_circus · 11-10-2015 2:52pm

That's some chip on your shoulder. I suppose your butchery of the English language in your thread title is in revenge for the famine?

eeguy · 11-10-2015 2:52pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

I'm sorry, are you from the past?

Menas · 11-10-2015 2:52pm

Fcks sake. There are lots of things my ancestors would be turning in their grave for, but that does not mean they are right.
Not going to mass.
Having sex outside marriage.
Not working in a field.

Times move on, people should do what they want without worrying about what their god fearing granny would think. Dont like it - just ignore them rather then getting all het up about it.

DanielODonnell · 11-10-2015 2:53pm

Very few Catholics from province of Ulster have played for the Ireland rugby team so it is mainly a Protestant sport in Ulster though I don't mind it as it is the N.Ireland soccer team who have the hooligan fan base.
However there are Catholics who play for the Rainey old boys club team.

NachoBusiness · 11-10-2015 2:53pm

I heard a rumour the game (along with the game against Poland later) is being shown in the Three Arena, is that just bs or is it indeed the case?

Can't find any link to it and the Three Arena only answer phones Mon to Fri between and 2pm and 2.10pm.

endacl · 11-10-2015 2:53pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

And in other news: people who are interested in stuff attend stuff. Luckily, stuff still not compulsory.

Duckworth_Luas · 11-10-2015 2:55pm

Someones not standing shoulder to shoulder! :eek:

questionmark? · 11-10-2015 2:55pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

I bet a lot of them have! Funnily enough one of he strong point of the Irish team is fielding i.e. Catching high balls due to their GAA backround.

Walk into a pub in Clonmel, Tralee, Limerick, Cork etc... and I bet there is a huge number of people out to watch the match today. Your post like a bitter GAA fan with no love of sport or pride in your country doing well.

The Backwards Man · 11-10-2015 2:55pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

If only there were some way you could avoid this assault on your sensitivities.

Does your telly not have a remote?

JONJO THE MISER · 11-10-2015 2:56pm

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Very few Catholics from province of Ulster have played for the Ireland rugby team so it is mainly a Protestant sport in Ulster though I don't mind it as it is the N.Ireland soccer team who have the hooligan fan base.
However there are Catholics who play for the Rainey old boys club team.

Always was and is known as a protestant sport in the country.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-10-2015 2:56pm

I know plenty of common people who are rugby fans, we have a club here in my small town and all classes are represented on the team.

kneemos · 11-10-2015 2:56pm

I think it's problem is its complexity.
If it were simpler the lower class could understand and identify with it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-10-2015 2:56pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Oh Lord! Have we not grown up yet?

Cities?? Rugby is watched and enjoyed by many rural people all around the country. It's a sport. There are many sports. And there is a reason why there are many sports: because different people enjoy different sports. Live with it. But, don't start the whole keyboard celtic warrior claptrap.

G_R · 11-10-2015 2:57pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.

It's not a political party

Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

Lets not even go there.

Menas · 11-10-2015 2:57pm

I will be watching both the rugby and soccer matches in my local GAA club bar today.
Michael Cusack will be doing cartwheels in glasnevin!

endacl · 11-10-2015 2:58pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Always was and is known as a protestant sport in the country.

I've a nephew playin for his school in Tallaght. Doing very well. He has no idea it was ever 'elitist' or 'Protestant'. He has his chips on a plate. Not on his shoulder.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-10-2015 2:58pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Always was and is known as a protestant sport in the country.

Again speak for yourself. Mostly RC playing around here and always was. Don't generalise about your own narrow experience.

The Backwards Man · 11-10-2015 2:58pm

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Very few Catholics from province of Ulster have played for the Ireland rugby team so it is mainly a Protestant sport in Ulster though I don't mind it as it is the N.Ireland soccer team who have the hooligan fan base.
However there are Catholics who play for the Rainey old boys club team.

Take your silly agenda elsewhere. Thousands of Catholics play rugby here, sure the original All Black was from Ramelton. The real Daniel is a hundred times the man you are.

suicide_circus · 11-10-2015 2:59pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Always was and is known as a protestant sport in the country.

NOT PROTESTANT?!!? :eek:

One eyed Jack · 11-10-2015 3:00pm

Rabo Karabekian wrote: »

Things change. I'm sure those same ancestors would be turning in their graves at a lot of what we do.

I still see rugby as an elitist sport, but I know that's based on what rugby was 20 years ago more than it is now. The popularity of the sport is based on the team not being as bad as we were previously: we're winning things (albeit the six nations, but we may get past the quarter finals of the world cup) which means more support and more people playing it. So it'll be less and less elitist which is a good thing.

20 years ago the Irish rugby team had a bigger following than it has now!

Club rugby was never elitist, not even 40 years ago, an absolutely ridiculous assertion, and I'm from the midlands btw, where my old man and all his brothers played rugby, where I played rugby.

I remember interviewing Tony Ward 20 years ago for the school newspaper, nothing elitist about him, one of the most professional sports people I have ever had the privilege to meet. I've met many top class Irish rugby players and former Irish rugby players since, and I've never been given the impression by any of them that they see themselves as elitist.

Some fair-weather fans shouldn't be taken as a reflection or representation of people who play rugby or follow rugby as a whole.

DanielODonnell · 11-10-2015 3:00pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Take your silly agenda elsewhere. Thousands of Catholics play rugby here, sure the original All Black was from Ramelton. The real Daniel is a hundred times the man you are.

and Dave Gallaher was Presbyterian and a member of the British crowns military.

endacl · 11-10-2015 3:00pm

I hear there's lads playing hockey these days. Feckin' west chicks.

:mad:

RayM · 11-10-2015 3:00pm

I dislike rugby as much as most other Irish people disliked it before the Ireland rugby team became successful. It must be a bit annoying to be an actual rugby fan (i.e. someone who didn't just latch onto it when the Ireland rugby team started winning and the soccer team went a bit crap) and having to pay more to go to matches, for the privilege of being surrounded by people who don't know the rules, but YAY COYBIG!!1

NachoBusiness · 11-10-2015 3:00pm

If someone falls over in Dundrum Shopping Centre when there's a rugby match on, does anyone hear it?

Auldloon · 11-10-2015 3:01pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

Will you go away to fek. My ould lad a farmer from back west who was born in the 1920's loved rugby though he only ever seen it on TV. Farm work was always suspended for televised internationals.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-10-2015 3:02pm

And for what it's worth there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Protestant, we're all Christians here so just cut out that nonsense.

This Fawning Of Rugby

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