Dad of four (20) tried to remove clamp from his car with a hammer

Simon2015

This guy should have been given a medal not a fine.

http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/dad-of-four-20-tried-to-remove-clamp-from-his-car-with-a-hammer-31584427.html


Father-of-four Jason Fitzpatrick (20) failed to get the clamp off his wheel, but was spotted by a garda and arrested.Judge Ann Ryan told him she would leave him without a criminal conviction if he made a €100 donation to charity.

Fitzpatrick, of Rathvale Park, Ayrfield, pleaded guilty to causing criminal damage to a clamp belonging to Dublin Street Parking Services on May 6.

Dublin District Court heard the incident happened at Bedford Row in Temple Bar at 3.40pm.

Gardai on beat duty saw Fitzpatrick trying to remove a clamp from his vehicle using an iron bar and industrial hammer.

He had four prior convictions for minor motoring offences.

The prosecuting garda agreed with defence solicitor Tony Collier that Fitzpatrick had failed to get the clamp off.

"He became annoyed and frustrated the car was clamped," Mr Collier said. "He appreciates he shouldn't have behaved in the way he did."

The accused was on disability allowance and had attended a number of special schools while growing up.

Hurt

All his children were under five and included seven-month-old twins. He was putting "all his efforts into the family home", said Mr Collier.

Judge Ryan adjourned the case for payment of €100 to Crumlin Children's Hospital and said she would strike the charge out if this was done.

"I think it won't hurt as much as paying it to the clampers," she said.

Lisha

I'm figuratively speechless. There is so much wrong with that article!

colm_mcm

Can't see why he should be allowed park where he likes just because he's accumulated 4 kids by the time he's 20.
It's not like he was clamped by some cowboy outfit. If it was Dublin City champers that got him, you can be sure there was a reason.

frostyjacks

Mustn't be that disabled if he's fathered four kids by the time he's 20.

colm_mcm

The only place you could park on Bedford row is in the loading bay on the quays end.

ZENER

frostyjacks wrote: »

Mustn't be that disabled if he's fathered four kids by the time he's 20.

And so it starts . . . need a stable boy there ?!

Ken

beanie10

How do you fit 4 kids into one car?

Witcher

beanie10 wrote: »

How do you fit 4 kids into one car?

Sure isn't there a boot?

pwurple

beanie10 wrote: »

How do you fit 4 kids into one car?

3 in the back, one in the front.

CreepingDeath

beanie10 wrote: »

How do you fit 4 kids into one car?

Ask Jimmy Saville

JJJJNR

4 kids at 20, that has to be some sort of record.

fancy pigeon

JJJJNR wrote: »

4 kids at 20, that has to be some sort of record.

Yeah.... No tv in that house :eek:

efb

methinks it wasn't the car that needed a clamp...

Titzon Toast

A medal? For what?

Fleawuss

The law only applies to the rest of us.

colm_mcm

It looks like he had to pay to get the clamp off too?

dpofloinn

Titzon Toast wrote: »

A medal? For what?

'' Best in Show'' breeding stock category

Simon2015

Titzon Toast wrote: »

A medal? For what?

People need to fight back against the clampers.

Fuzzy Clam

He was lucky getting away with a donation.

Fuzzy Clam

Simon2015 wrote: »

People need to fight back against the clampers.

I don't agree with all clamping but im sure he wasnt clamped without reason.
If it was a loading bay as someone suggested, he deserved it.

colm_mcm

Simon2015 wrote: »

People need to fight back against the clampers.

They could just park legally and put them out of business?

efb

dpofloinn wrote: »

'' Best in Show'' breeding stock category

Heinz 57

dpofloinn

efb wrote: »

Heinz 57

That's gone completely over my head

efb

dpofloinn wrote: »

That's gone completely over my head

Animals, especially dogs which are a mixture of multiple breeds, can be referred to as "Heinz 57".[9]

wil

colm_mcm wrote: »

They could just park legally and put them out of business?

I absolutely do not condone the actions of this rather foolhardy man.
However
The only people I've come across who offer support for clamping in our capital are rarely those who have to deal with their on occasion over zealous and somewhat under fair and often discriminate approach to parking.
In cordial conversation with clampers they admit it is a tax.
In discussion with shop owners - many are in constant battle with council because clamping is affecting their business, not just customers, but even delivery vans.
In discussion with on duty ags "We hate the €&@?&@s as much as you"

I can point you to daily illegal and dangerous parking - across pedestrian crossings, at lights and in yellow box, being completely ignored by clampers, yet almost empty residential side streets are actively targeted for tickets run out by minutes. If you want genuine details just pm me.

When they deal with genuine traffic improvement, dangerous, illegal and nuisance parking, parking in disabled bays etc and stop targeting soft inconsequential targets for the easy buck then I will offer the same support some so frivolously show them.

Leonard Hofstadter

So much wrong with the judge's decision it's hard to know where to start. Honestly is it any wonder there are so many (more) serious crimes committed each and every day when everyone knows they'll get away with it? Much easier to go for the soft targets like speeding of course.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Is it reasonably common to carry an "iron bar and industrial hammer" in your car?


I have a hatchet in my boot at the moment, but there's a good reason it's there.

Superwofy

Titzon Toast wrote: »

A medal? For what?

Dad of the year, obviously.

jamesbondings

Netflix and chill overdose.....

Noccy_Mondy

Stupid ass. More in his line if he went out and got an education for himself. That would not only provide him with an income/money to pay the fine, but maybe a few brain cells to know where not to park! 4 kids by 20, sure he's only a kid himself. What a mess.

pablo128

If he had any sense he'd have gone to a hire shop and hired a cordless grinder or bought a bolt cutters. Both options are cheaper than the fine.

Simon2015

pablo128 wrote: »

If he had any sense he'd have gone to a hire shop and hired a cordless grinder or bought a bolt cutters. Both options are cheaper than the fine.

Bolt cutters don't work on those clamps you would need an angle grinder to take it off.

pablo128

Simon2015 wrote: »

Bolt cutters don't work on those clamps you would need an angle grinder to take it off.

They work on the some of the 'private' clamps.;)

endacl

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

I have a hatchet in my boot at the moment, but there's a good reason it's there.

And large refuse sacks? A few rolls of duct tape? A shovel, perhaps?

In fairness, if it's to deal with champers, I'll do you an iron clad alibi.

REXER

When did the Motors board start morphing into the After Hours board???

Wile E. Coyote

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

Is it reasonably common to carry an "iron bar and industrial hammer" in your car?

It must be to help him with his 'disability'.

collywobble7

Man on disability has four kids. I wonder who's paying for the kids, hint, it's not the man on disability

savagethegoat

I assume if DCC wish to pursue it, he'll still have to pay the parking fine, or maybe he already has seeing as he failed to remove the clamp.

Simon2015

The clampers are not supposed to clamp people who are disabled.

colm_mcm

Vehicles displaying a disability badge I'd assume.

Clamping a person would be a tad extreme, regardless of where they're stopped.

5W30

Christ, you'd be making some racket trying to take off a clamp with hammer!

Interslice

5W30 wrote: »

Christ, you'd be making some racket trying to take off a clamp with hammer!

Not if your just using it to pop the lower ball joint

cerastes

Surely an angle grinder would be quicker to remove one or as few links as necessary to remove the item? Not that unapproved of removing the council clamps, but I've heard of people being clamped recently by private clampers were it was clear they had even paid and then left the person stuck with no transport, forcing them to pay for alternative transport and to remove the clamp in the end, I think it's open to appeal but the person in question just wants to leave it be as they consider it too much hassle to deal with, which seems to be part of how some/most/all of these crowds operate.

ohnonotgmail

Simon2015 wrote: »

The clampers are not supposed to clamp people who are disabled.

doesnt that apply only to the physically disabled?

Jb1989

pablo128 wrote: »

If he had any sense he'd have gone to a hire shop and hired a cordless grinder or bought a bolt cutters. Both options are cheaper than the fine.

Snip snip burgess

cerastes

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

doesnt that apply only to the physically disabled?

So if they are not physically disabled, which is who I thought a disability badge could be issued to, what other form of disability entitles a person to have such a badge, maybe Im missing the point of who disability badges apply to and who can use them?

Im guessing the alternative, but dont want to say it for concern of the righteous mob that might descend on me, surely not?

ohnonotgmail

cerastes wrote: »

So if they are not physically disabled, which is who I thought a disability badge could be issued to, what other form of disability entitles a person to have such a badge, maybe Im missing the point of who disability badges apply to and who can use them?

Im guessing the alternative, but dont want to say it for concern of the righteous mob that might descend on me, surely not?

i'm pretty sure it applies only to physical disabilities. At least that is the case in the UK where i am more familiar with how it works.

Edited to add : There is no indication that the person in the story had a disabled parking permit.

hoodie6029

wil wrote: »

I absolutely do not condone the actions of this rather foolhardy man.
However
The only people I've come across who offer support for clamping in our capital are rarely those who have to deal with their on occasion over zealous and somewhat under fair and often discriminate approach to parking.
In cordial conversation with clampers they admit it is a tax.
In discussion with shop owners - many are in constant battle with council because clamping is affecting their business, not just customers, but even delivery vans.
In discussion with on duty ags "We hate the €&@?&@s as much as you"

I can point you to daily illegal and dangerous parking - across pedestrian crossings, at lights and in yellow box, being completely ignored by clampers, yet almost empty residential side streets are actively targeted for tickets run out by minutes. If you want genuine details just pm me.

When they deal with genuine traffic improvement, dangerous, illegal and nuisance parking, parking in disabled bays etc and stop targeting soft inconsequential targets for the easy buck then I will offer the same support some so frivolously show them.

Here, here.
I used to call them about dangerously parked cars and they couldn't give 2 fooks. Builders vans parked on the footpath outside horse show house in ballsbridge for weeks. Rang the clampers every day for a week. The van drove by a few times and did nothing. Wheelchairs and buggies had to use the road to get around those fookers.

JohnCleary

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

doesnt that apply only to the physically disabled?

If he qualifies for disability allowance, he probably qualifies for the badge... some people with heart conditions etc. have the badge. Don't shoot the messenger, i'm not saying I agree with it.

Although I suspect this guys only disability is that he's allergic to work.

colm_mcm

Disability allowance doesn't get you a blue badge.
You can be on disability for things like depression, eating disorders etc.

Grolschevik

What does get you the disabled permit?

I have neighbours who both appear fine physical specimens but have a disabled badge on their car and park in the nearest disabled spot. Their child may have issues, of course, but if so, they're not obvious.