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Modular Homes

  • 30-09-2015 8:20am
    #1
    Murphy14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭


    Following the governments decision to order a quantity of modular homes to tackle the housing crisis is this a quick fix rather than go with the longer term solution and go with a more traditional build. Just wondering what people's thoughts are.


Comments

  • #2
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    If I'm on the brink of starvation id prefer an immediate energy sachet than a slow cooked stew.


  • #3
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I don't know.....
    I'm on the fence with it tbh as I'm not sure what the long term use for them would be. They will be initially be temporary units but with this government they will still be here and in use when I'm retired in 30 years!


  • #4
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    From stories yesterday they will be purchased for 100 grand a piece, someone is going to make a serious profit!


  • #5
    Rubberchikken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    while a great idea, i'm willing to bet someone is going to see a way to make a quick buck and ride this system for all it's worth and the govt dept responsible is only going to 'see' all of this long after the fact.


  • #6
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    while a great idea, i'm willing to bet someone is going to see a way to make a quick buck and ride this system for all it's worth and the govt dept responsible is only going to 'see' all of this long after the fact.

    You mean fine Gaels best mate Denis o Brien, who owns Roankabin and who gave the government a demonstration last week?

    I'm sure they won't get the contract will they?


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  • #7
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    I have long believed that our goverment , Labour ministers and all , are here to serve only the better off in our society.
    We will not see refugee settlements or modular housing in Foxrock or Montenotte.
    If some ministers pal can make a pile out of modular houses it will happen and no other consideration will be counted.
    Sure we will here reassurances about short term solution while working on long term.
    As syd says the needy are drowning and they will clutch the straw.
    But I foresee future problems will deprevation , prostitution and sky high vlolent crime against the person rates to be associated with modular housing. And we all know the neighbourhoods they will be located in.


  • #8
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,158 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    michael999999 wrote: »
    You mean fine Gaels best mate Denis o Brien, who owns Roankabin and who gave the government a demonstration last week?

    I'm sure they won't get the contract will they?

    One oh four firms, I thought?


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So following that beacon of civilian welfare, America, and building trailer parks


  • #10
    Tefral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    With this kind of spend, they will have to go down the route of a competitive tendering process as per EU Procurement rules. This will have to be published in OJEU and on E-Tenders.


  • #11
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    cronin_j wrote: »
    With this kind of spend, they will have to go down the route of a competitive tendering process as per EU Procurement rules. This will have to be published in OJEU and on E-Tenders.

    Yes. Our future slums will be procured in full observence of all EU tendering procedures. This will give a veneer of respectability to this centuries "Ballymuns".


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  • #12
    Ctrl Alt Delete
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Ctrl Alt Delete


    cronin_j wrote: »
    With this kind of spend, they will have to go down the route of a competitive tendering process as per EU Procurement rules. This will have to be published in OJEU and on E-Tenders.

    Depends on how they are allocating the spend it's capital spend so the threshold for that is 5.1 million
    L1011 wrote: »
    One oh four firms, I thought?

    Has to appear competitive ;)


  • #13
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    cronin_j wrote: »
    With this kind of spend, they will have to go down the route of a competitive tendering process as per EU Procurement rules. This will have to be published in OJEU and on E-Tenders.

    ...means zip, that. Btdt, have the T-shirt.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #14
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »
    Has to appear competitive ;)

    ...read the small print on those, usually goes something like this: "the tenderer is not bound to accept the lowest or any tender "

    This means they can pick the dearest one if they wish, if they 'feel' it meets the requirements better.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #15
    Ctrl Alt Delete
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Ctrl Alt Delete


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...read the small print on those, usually goes something like this: "the tenderer is not bound to accept the lowest or any tender "

    This means they can pick the dearest one if they wish, if they 'feel' it meets the requirements better.

    The procurement term for this is MEAT or Most Economically Advantageous Tender


  • #16
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    And the term for hopeless disadvantage contained within sub standard housing is ?

    Topical balm to sooth the concience of those who do not fall through the cracks.
    How can you feel good about yourself without an underclass to look down on ?


  • #17
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »
    The procurement term for this is MEAT or Most Economically Advantageous Tender

    ...good one, adding it to my list of Useful Phrases - for the next time someone tells me I'm "too dear" !! :pac: :pac:

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #18
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Strolling Bones wrote: »
    And the term for hopeless disadvantage contained within sub standard housing is ?

    Well isn't that the thing: what standard are these proposed builds ??

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #19
    Ctrl Alt Delete
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Ctrl Alt Delete


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...good one, adding it to my list of Useful Phrases - for the next time someone tells me I'm "too dear" !! :pac: :pac:

    You may well be too dear. For example if 100 marks are for cost pretty much price as high as you want. But if it's something like 500-700 marks no amount of fluff text in the response is going to matter if you are most expensive.

    It's all about the weighting of the marks and in fairness usually the tenders tell you exactly how to win


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