Edel putters

Quahog217

Anyone got fit for one of these? From what i have read it all seems good stuff. Not sure on the cost though, id imagine it would fairly expensive.

Kingswood Rover

Never heard of her, Harry Potter's aunt?

PARlance

Quahog217 wrote: »

Anyone got fit for one of these? From what i have read it all seems good stuff. Not sure on the cost though, id imagine it would fairly expensive.

They get great reviews on the US sites but I'm not sure how you would get fit over here, I have never heard of an agent here.

Cost is usually around $400 in the States.

U.P.O.

Drive Golf Performance in Cork do fittings for them but other than that i dont know much about them

BillyBoy

Steve Buzza on Youtube just got one recently, did a video on it and got fitted etc. I think he mentioned they have just arrived in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34xg1hDCMI

Quahog217

BillyBoy wrote: »

Steve Buzza on Youtube just got one recently, did a video on it and got fitted etc. I think he mentioned they have just arrived in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34xg1hDCMI

Cheers i must have a look at this.

Kingswood Rover

400 dollars for a lump of metal at the end of metal rod with a rubber Grip, i am getting into this Putter gig, just come up with a fancy name, get a 4th year engineering student to run up a design, the madder looking the better and do a bit of interweb marketing......now need the snazzy name...i know "PUTTZILLA" ..... "MONSTROUSLY ACCURATE anywhere within 3 inches of the Cup designed for use by human beings"

gotapaininmy

Got one this week, haven't used it yet. Will review when I've used it for a bit.

Domo1982

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Got one this week, haven't used it yet. Will review when I've used it for a bit.

A Puttzilla?:)

Quahog217

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Got one this week, haven't used it yet. Will review when I've used it for a bit.

Where did you get your edel?

gotapaininmy

Domo1982 wrote: »

A Puttzilla?:)

I hope it performs like one!

Kimbot

Quahog217 wrote: »

Where did you get your edel?

It was rolling in the deep :P

gotapaininmy

Quahog217 wrote: »

Where did you get your edel?

I got fit and ordered with Andrew Norrby in Banbridge. Have a look for Edel wedges and putters Ireland on FB.

mike12

Do u mind us asking how much, and did he think there would be much of an advantage over the putter you were using.

gotapaininmy

it was about 540 (I added an optional extra that cost me an extra 30 I think though), that includes the fitting which took about 90 mins. Some people will laugh at me for paying that much for a putter but I've spent multiples of that over the years on Scotty's etc. Also there are people out there paying the same for an M1 driver that will be out of date in a years time or less.

mike12

gotapaininmy wrote: »

it was about 540 (I added an optional extra that cost me an extra 30 I think though), that includes the fitting which took about 90 mins. Some people will laugh at me for paying that much for a putter but I've spent multiples of that over the years on Scotty's etc. Also there are people out there paying the same for an M1 driver that will be out of date in a years time or less.

It's not bad value if you use it for ever, not sure why they are more expensive than the states.

gotapaininmy

mike12 wrote: »

gotapaininmy wrote: »

it was about 540 (I added an optional extra that cost me an extra 30 I think though), that includes the fitting which took about 90 mins. Some people will laugh at me for paying that much for a putter but I've spent multiples of that over the years on Scotty's etc. Also there are people out there paying the same for an M1 driver that will be out of date in a years time or less.

It's not bad value if you use it for ever, not sure why they are more expensive than the states.

That's the way I look at it, it's the last putter I'll ever need to buy so it's saving me money in the long run! Not sure why they're more expensive here, VAT might account for some of it?

d2ww

gotapaininmy wrote: »

it was about 540 (I added an optional extra that cost me an extra 30 I think though), that includes the fitting which took about 90 mins. Some people will laugh at me for paying that much for a putter but I've spent multiples of that over the years on Scotty's etc. Also there are people out there paying the same for an M1 driver that will be out of date in a years time or less.

Now that deserves a LOL.

Quahog217

d2ww wrote: »

Now that deserves a LOL.

Why exactly does that deserve a LOL, I know people who change drivers every 6 months, spending that kind of money each time. The OP is getting a custom fit putter that will last a lifetime. Personally dont see the LOL, maybe you should try the humour thread for your LOL's

d2ww

Quahog217 wrote: »

Why exactly does that deserve a LOL, I know people who change drivers every 6 months, spending that kind of money each time. The OP is getting a custom fit putter that will last a lifetime. Personally dont see the LOL, maybe you should try the humour thread for your LOL's

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a €500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a €500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

Quahog217

d2ww wrote: »

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a €500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a €500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

Will a custom fit putter taking into account loft, lie, length, head shape, swing weight aswell as others parameters improve someones putting........almost definitely.

ShivasIrons

d2ww wrote: »

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a €500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a €500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

The answer to your rhetorical questions is yes not no. You also haven't given a reason why your answer is no too just that all a putter needs to be is a lump of metal on a stick. That lump of metal does have a number of features. I can't imagine if Jim Furyk was using a 40 inch putter with 8 degrees of loft and 4 degrees upright that he would have shot 58.

There are quite a number of factors in determining how a putter performs. If a golfer doesn't understand how these factors change the putters performance they should get advice.

Different putter shapes, lines, dots etc will have golfers line up their putters differently. As a result some putters will have you lining up correctly some won't.

Also different weighting in putters will change the way the speed of the putter head is controlled. This means that a proper weighted putter will improve distance control.

d2ww

Yes, but if you're not doing it with a €200 scotty, you won't be doing it with a €500 edel. I just get annoyed at some peoples stubborn refusal to accept that they, not the stick they are holding could be responsible for a bad shot.
A case in point,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv-h9KZMw5c

ShivasIrons

d2ww wrote: »

Yes, but if you're not doing it with a €200 scotty, you won't be doing it with a €500 edel. I just get annoyed at some peoples stubborn refusal to accept that they, not the stick they are holding could be responsible for a bad shot.
A case in point,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv-h9KZMw5c

I don't see how Jason Dufner's incident has anything to do whether he had a fitted putter or not.

The correct putter in a golfers hand will lead to better putts, better distance control, more putts holed and lower scores.

If the type of putter didn't matter every golfer would be using the same one. Of course the golfer can be at fault, but the wrong putter can be the cause too. So why not find out if the golfer has the wrong putter and eliminate that reason for missing putts.

I've seen golfers go from aiming 8 inches left of the hole from 6 feet to aiming at the hole with a different putter. You think that might make a difference?

gotapaininmy

d2ww wrote: »

Yes, but if you're not doing it with a 200 scotty, you won't be doing it with a 500 edel. I just get annoyed at some peoples stubborn refusal to accept that they, not the stick they are holding could be responsible for a bad shot.
A case in point,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv-h9KZMw5c

I don't consider myself a bad putter and stats I've collected via Game Golf would back that up. I am a fiddler though and constantly changing putters that's why I went the Edel route, get a putter that suits me and only me and then there's no logic to changing putters from round to round.

charlieIRL

d2ww wrote: »

you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.

Remember when he won the Fed Ex Cup a few years ago, he played the last few tournaments with a putter he paid $29 for!!!

gotapaininmy

d2ww wrote: »

Quahog217 wrote: »

Why exactly does that deserve a LOL, I know people who change drivers every 6 months, spending that kind of money each time. The OP is getting a custom fit putter that will last a lifetime. Personally dont see the LOL, maybe you should try the humour thread for your LOL's

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a 500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a 500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

"Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right." "Does not make it right"?, i didn't realise this was a moral issue, it's just a putter!

mike12

I've never bought a new putter but have spent 350 odd quid on 3 different versions of a counterbalance putter just for a change over the past couple of tears.
A new oddessy can be 270ish for the works version.
Would feel a bit ripped off compared to the price in the states where they vary from 300 to 450 dollars depending on what u want.
Some seriously good looking putters if u have a look at golfwrks

BigChap1759

d2ww wrote: »

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a €500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a €500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

If you've nothing to add don't comment - Edel have significantly different physics to almost any other putter out there. I'd definitely be interested in trying an Edel or a Directed Force - stroke balanced putters if you want to do a bit of of research.....

Why do so many people begrudge others spending big money on equipment, I just don't get it - it's not your money they are spending!!

gotapaininmy

BigChap1759 wrote: »

d2ww wrote: »

Drivers and irons at least have some technology in them, a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick!!! you could have given Jim Furyk a croquet mallet and he wouldn't have been too far off that 58.
Also, just because some people choose to replace their drivers every 6 months, does not make it right.
Will a 500 putter make you magically pick the right line every time? No, it won't.
Will a 500 putter make you magically putt the right length every time? No, it won't.

If you've nothing to add don't comment - Edel have significantly different physics to almost any other putter out there. I'd definitely be interested in trying an Edel or a Directed Force - stroke balanced putters if you want to do a bit of of research.....

Why do so many people begrudge others spending big money on equipment, I just don't get it - it's not your money they are spending!!

And to say a putter is just a lump of metal on a stick is just untrue. Even outside of Edel if you buy an off the rack putter, there is considerable more technology in the Futura Scotty line of putters when compared even to the Newports never mind something like the old bullseyes.

gotapaininmy

mike12 wrote: »

I've never bought a new putter but have spent 350 odd quid on 3 different versions of a counterbalance putter just for a change over the past couple of tears.
A new oddessy can be 270ish for the works version.
Would feel a bit ripped off compared to the price in the states where they vary from 300 to 450 dollars depending on what u want.
Some seriously good looking putters if u have a look at golfwrks

Is that price in the states for buying them off the rack? I wouldn't be doing that with Edel (buying off the rack) and don't really know why they do it when they're whole mantra is "one putter at a time".

Rackstar

Can't believe there is even an argument going on over the value of a putter.

What club do you use the most?

newport2

charlieIRL wrote: »

Remember when he won the Fed Ex Cup a few years ago, he played the last few tournaments with a putter he paid $29 for!!!

I remember he also said that in the shop he got it, it was the only one of about 70 off-the-rack putters with the grip correctly aligned!!

mike12

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Is that price in the states for buying them off the rack? I wouldn't be doing that with Edel (buying off the rack) and don't really know why they do it when they're whole mantra is "one putter at a time".

Did a fair bit of research, there is no such thing as a off the rack one. They are the prices for the custom fit ones.

gotapaininmy

mike12 wrote: »

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Is that price in the states for buying them off the rack? I wouldn't be doing that with Edel (buying off the rack) and don't really know why they do it when they're whole mantra is "one putter at a time".

Did a fair bit of research, there is no such thing as a off the rack one. They are the prices for the custom fit ones.

oh right, I have read stuff online (probably on GolfWRX) where lads have bought them without being custom fitted, no idea how much they paid though.

gotapaininmy

So have used the putter in 10-12 rounds now and I'm not convinced, I haven't seen a marked improvement and in fact am struggling more on short putts than usual. My primary reason for getting the putter was for improved pace control from long range, I never had an issue with shorter putts so that's annoying. In fairness the Edel fitter did stress that there is an adjustment period while you get out of the bad habits built up over years of aiming incorrectly, may be that it's just taking me longer to adjust than hoped.

newport2

gotapaininmy wrote: »

So have used the putter in 10-12 rounds now and I'm not convinced, I haven't seen a marked improvement and in fact am struggling more on short putts than usual. My primary reason for getting the putter was for improved pace control from long range, I never had an issue with shorter putts so that's annoying. In fairness the Edel fitter did stress that there is an adjustment period while you get out of the bad habits built up over years of aiming incorrectly, may be that it's just taking me longer to adjust than hoped.

Thanks for the (honest) feedback. Would be interested in another update a bit further down the line to see if it improves for you. Hope it does!

mike12

Was thinking the same thing,
If you are aiming left it doesn't mean that's where u are hitting it.
You should get a putting fork or a peltz putting gizmo, both give u great feed back that u are actually hitting on the line u are aiming.
U do see a lot of guys aiming one way and the stroke corrects the line.
Stick with it and it will get better.
Is there a return period on the edel putters as they don't really have a sell on value.

spacecoyote

mike12 wrote: »

U do see a lot of guys aiming one way and the stroke corrects the line.

This is so true. So many times I've been tending a flag for someone, and can see where their feet are lined up, etc... It can look like they are aiming in the complete opposite direction. But they will then correct it in their stroke.

One bit of advice I got, if you have a putting mat. Measure the distance from the edge of the mat to the centre of the hole. Then mark a spot on the mat the exact same distance out from the edge. That way you know, if you hit a straight putt from that spot it should drop in the centre of the hole (assuming you have the mat laid out on a flat surface).

gotapaininmy

mike12 wrote: »

Was thinking the same thing,
If you are aiming left it doesn't mean that's where u are hitting it.
You should get a putting fork or a peltz putting gizmo, both give u great feed back that u are actually hitting on the line u are aiming.
U do see a lot of guys aiming one way and the stroke corrects the line.
Stick with it and it will get better.
Is there a return period on the edel putters as they don't really have a sell on value.

I don't know about the return period Mike, as you say they have zero sell on value unless you have an identical twin who's on the lookout.

One thing I would say about my left aiming bias Mike is that my "bad putts" previously would always miss left, rarely if ever would I push a putt so I think I was subconsciously aiming left even on straight putts and pulling them in. The common miss with the Edel is on the right which would back this up too I think, need to re-calibrate myself.

Mizuno Man

I've just ordered an Edel now too - also from Andrew in Banbridge.

The numbers work out very simply for me:

I've spent 300 euro on a driver and then another 150 to have the shaft fitted for it and I use it at most 14 times a round.

I've spent 450 euro on three wedges that I use maybe 10 times a round.

I have now just spent around 400 euro on a putter that I will use on average 30 times a round. And there is no question for me at my handicap that my scores are dictated almost completely by how I putt. So it seems like a decent investment compared to the other stuff I've bought for golf!

Should have it in my hands in a few weeks and I'll give a full report then....

BigChap1759

Mizuno Man wrote: »

I've just ordered an Edel now too - also from Andrew in Banbridge.

The numbers work out very simply for me:

I've spent 300 euro on a driver and then another 150 to have the shaft fitted for it and I use it at most 14 times a round.

I've spent 450 euro on three wedges that I use maybe 10 times a round.

I have now just spent around 400 euro on a putter that I will use on average 30 times a round. And there is no question for me at my handicap that my scores are dictated almost completely by how I putt. So it seems like a decent investment compared to the other stuff I've bought for golf!

Should have it in my hands in a few weeks and I'll give a full report then....

What was the fitting like?

gotapaininmy

Mizuno Man wrote: »

I've just ordered an Edel now too - also from Andrew in Banbridge.

The numbers work out very simply for me:

I've spent 300 euro on a driver and then another 150 to have the shaft fitted for it and I use it at most 14 times a round.

I've spent 450 euro on three wedges that I use maybe 10 times a round.

I have now just spent around 400 euro on a putter that I will use on average 30 times a round. And there is no question for me at my handicap that my scores are dictated almost completely by how I putt. So it seems like a decent investment compared to the other stuff I've bought for golf!

Should have it in my hands in a few weeks and I'll give a full report then....

Will be interesting to see your opinion on it. I'm still not convinced 2 months down the line from having got mine. The last couple of rounds have seen a small improvement so hopefully I'm getting used to it. You do see some people on Twitter posting that it has made a big difference almost immediately, definitely not the case with me, I actually got worse (as you can see from my post above).

Which one did you end up with? E1, E2 or E3? The Brick? Were you surprised by the results?

Mizuno Man

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Will be interesting to see your opinion on it. I'm still not convinced 2 months down the line from having got mine. The last couple of rounds have seen a small improvement so hopefully I'm getting used to it. You do see some people on Twitter posting that it has made a big difference almost immediately, definitely not the case with me, I actually got worse (as you can see from my post above).

Which one did you end up with? E1, E2 or E3? The Brick? Were you surprised by the results?

E-3 for me. Yes I was very surprised by the fitting from the point of view of how a small change to alignment markings or weighting had a big effect on results.

Weighting in particular. I was hitting ten foot putts to check dispersion and he would change the weighting. Move a weight a few inches fitted down the grip and dispersion would tighten up immediately. Move it back up the grip and the balls would spread out again. Add weight to the end of the grip and the balls went everywhere. And each time without any huge difference in how the putter felt.

I don't think I'm a bad putter, just a bit too streaky for my liking, so I'm not expecting any great change. I think it's easy to expect too much from a fitting like this. I don't expect to start holing a load of twenty footers. But hopefully my bad days will be slightly better and those silly missed putts from poor alignment or a stroke that felt OK but sent the ball on the wrong line will be a less regular feature.

Time will tell!

gotapaininmy

Mizuno Man wrote: »

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Will be interesting to see your opinion on it. I'm still not convinced 2 months down the line from having got mine. The last couple of rounds have seen a small improvement so hopefully I'm getting used to it. You do see some people on Twitter posting that it has made a big difference almost immediately, definitely not the case with me, I actually got worse (as you can see from my post above).

Which one did you end up with? E1, E2 or E3? The Brick? Were you surprised by the results?

E-3 for me. Yes I was very surprised by the fitting from the point of view of how a small change to alignment markings or weighting had a big effect on results.

Weighting in particular. I was hitting ten foot putts to check dispersion and he would change the weighting. Move a weight a few inches fitted down the grip and dispersion would tighten up immediately. Move it back up the grip and the balls would spread out again. Add weight to the end of the grip and the balls went everywhere. And each time without any huge difference in how the putter felt.

I don't think I'm a bad putter, just a bit too streaky for my liking, so I'm not expecting any great change. I think it's easy to expect too much from a fitting like this. I don't expect to start holing a load of twenty footers. But hopefully my bad days will be slightly better and those silly missed putts from poor alignment or a stroke that felt OK but sent the ball on the wrong line will be a less regular feature.

Time will tell!

Anything to report??

Mizuno Man

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Anything to report??

Yes!

Putter arrived a week or two back. All as I wanted except for paint fill on the a section of lettering on the sole was the wrong colour but I can live with that.

First time out was not good. Really didn't feel that comfortable with it - I guess it was so different from the putter I had been using up to the day before!

After a couple of rounds it was feeling great though. It is very soft off the face and I must say aiming feel much more natural now.

I had the standard round grip fitted and I love it. Feels very natural and easy to grip. It also certainly helps keep my wrists a little quieter.

I still have the odd silly miss and as I said I never thought this would solve all my putting problems right away. Perhaps the biggest issue has been that I am too eager to play with it rather than practice! I need to put some time in with a couple of my putting aids to ingrain the confidence some more.

I've only played 4 rounds I think I this stage with it, one on very fast Links greens and 3 on slow winter greens, so results overall are improving but mixed. The Links day I was missing greens all over the place but saving par almost without fail (at least until half way around the back nine!) with putts from 3 feet to 20 feet each time. That certainly gave me some confidence! I'll report further in another couple of weeks and we'll see where we stand.

Again, I am sure that many of us have spent 350+ on a driver, only to stand on the first tee and swipe it OB. This putter won't stop you missing putts. But I do believe that having it made to suit the way that I PERSONALLY set up to the ball and the way that I PERSONALLY aim the putter will make me better overall....Time will tell....

gotapaininmy

Mizuno Man wrote: »

gotapaininmy wrote: »

Anything to report??

Yes!

Putter arrived a week or two back. All as I wanted except for paint fill on the a section of lettering on the sole was the wrong colour but I can live with that.

First time out was not good. Really didn't feel that comfortable with it - I guess it was so different from the putter I had been using up to the day before!

After a couple of rounds it was feeling great though. It is very soft off the face and I must say aiming feel much more natural now.

I had the standard round grip fitted and I love it. Feels very natural and easy to grip. It also certainly helps keep my wrists a little quieter.

I still have the odd silly miss and as I said I never thought this would solve all my putting problems right away. Perhaps the biggest issue has been that I am too eager to play with it rather than practice! I need to put some time in with a couple of my putting aids to ingrain the confidence some more.

I've only played 4 rounds I think I this stage with it, one on very fast Links greens and 3 on slow winter greens, so results overall are improving but mixed. The Links day I was missing greens all over the place but saving par almost without fail (at least until half way around the back nine!) with putts from 3 feet to 20 feet each time. That certainly gave me some confidence! I'll report further in another couple of weeks and we'll see where we stand.

Again, I am sure that many of us have spent 350+ on a driver, only to stand on the first tee and swipe it OB. This putter won't stop you missing putts. But I do believe that having it made to suit the way that I PERSONALLY set up to the ball and the way that I PERSONALLY aim the putter will make me better overall....Time will tell....

It's interesting to hear and goes to show how personal these things are, I didn't like the round grip and have recently changed it to a normal grip. Also I find the face of the putter firm so it's all in the eye of the beholder I suppose.

Good for you that it's been positive for you, I'll keep mine in the bag because I like the look of it not because it has made me any better (it hasn't made me worse either, just no discernible improvement).

Montgolfier

Tomorrow as a birthday gift to myself I'm going for a putter fitting in Cork with Padraig Dooley.
Anymore updates on the putters? How are they on winter greens?

The biggest problem is if I take the plunge and buy one its next to impossible to sell. A bit like getting a tattoo (thats why I never got one).
I do see the value in a fitting lads would think nothing of dropping 550e on a driver for a few imaginary yards, at least I will know this putter will be fit to my eye.

My putting issues are:
1) Pace I tend to leave putts short.
2) Fast greens make me tentative and miss short putts by not releasing the putter.
3) Grips I tend to change styles ie reverse overlap to lefthand low.

I'm looking for a putter that fits my eye a method I can stick with to improve.

BigChap1759

Montgolfier wrote: »

Tomorrow as a birthday gift to myself I'm going for a putter fitting in Cork with Padraig Dooley.
Anymore updates on the putters? How are they on winter greens?

The biggest problem is if I take the plunge and buy one its next to impossible to sell. A bit like getting a tattoo (thats why I never got one).
I do see the value in a fitting lads would think nothing of dropping 550e on a driver for a few imaginary yards, at least I will know this putter will be fit to my eye.

My putting issues are:
1) Pace I tend to leave putts short.
2) Fast greens make me tentative and miss short putts by not releasing the putter.
3) Grips I tend to change styles ie reverse overlap to lefthand low.

I'm looking for a putter that fits my eye a method I can stick with to improve.

All joking aside if you have that kind of money to spend I would seriously consider the Directed Force with the web fitting. Lots of feedback on GolfWRX that the fitting works very well and the putter is supposed to be incredible. I'm fairly sure I'm going to take the plunge as soon as I can justify the cost

luvthegame

BigChap1759 wrote: »

All joking aside if you have that kind of money to spend I would seriously consider the Directed Force with the web fitting. Lots of feedback on GolfWRX that the fitting works very well and the putter is supposed to be incredible. I'm fairly sure I'm going to take the plunge as soon as I can justify the cost

I think I saw Goosen with that one? Sounds interesting for sure.
Basically harder to open/close face ?

BigChap1759

Yes, Goosen was using it in the father son tournament recently.

It's "lie angle balanced" which means it's in balance during your stroke - watch the videos of the revealer which makes sense to my mind. Means the putter is not trying to rotate during your stroke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhC__wM4nPU

Here is an Edel putter in the revealer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYPF7viyXj0