Positional breakdown of NIE players

CIARAN_BOYLE

It is an opinion of mine that the 4 provinces combined should ideally have 15 NIEs. No more than one in each position

Well we are pretty close to it at the moment. No loose heads and an extra tight head, a spare backrow, an extra centre, and no wings but some spare fullbacks but since they all cover and often play wing I will say its fine atm.

Props
Botha
Herbst*

Hookers
McCartney*

Locks
Chisholm
Van Der Merwe

Backrow
Williams
Heenan*
Fox-Matamua*
Naoupu

Scrumhalf
Pienaar

Outhalf
Blydenhaal*

Centres
Saili
Te'o*
Bundee Aki*


Back 3
Ludik*
Kirchener
Nacewa
Van den Heever*


*Players that can qualify for Ireland on residency grounds

.ak

That'd be a pretty good team!

CIARAN_BOYLE

.ak wrote: »

That'd be a pretty good team!

A little light on bench cover and having two th instead of a lh and a th but other than that it would yeah

pickarooney

I thought heenan was a project player.

errlloyd

GVDH and CJ are missing at a glance.

CIARAN_BOYLE

errlloyd wrote: »

GVDH and CJ are missing at a glance.

CJ qualifies in a couple of weeks, afaik if heaslip gets injured aftwr the rwc semi cj could be called up for the final Im not going to count him for that reason you are right about gvdh

smiley_face

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

CJ qualifies in a couple of weeks, afaik if heaslip gets injured aftwr the rwc semi cj could be called up for the final Im not going to count him for that reason you are right about gvdh

No, Stander qualifies 1st November, after the World Cup final which is on 31st Oct.

CIARAN_BOYLE

smiley_face wrote: »

No, Stander qualifies 1st November, after the World Cup final which is on 31st Oct.

He left SA on 30 October 2012 and arrived in Ireland on the same day. Irish residency began on that day

http://www.the42.ie/cj-stander-munster-rugby-654684-Oct2012/

Mind you he would need to be added to the squad 48 hours before playing so added on 29 October and he wouldnt be IQ then. One for the lawyers to argue over maybe.

rrpc

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He left SA on 30 October 2012 and arrived in Ireland on the same day. Irish residency began on that day

http://www.the42.ie/cj-stander-munster-rugby-654684-Oct2012/

Mind you he would need to be added to the squad 48 hours before playing so added on 29 October and he wouldnt be IQ then. One for the lawyers to argue over maybe.

Has he even been in the Ireland training camps? I doubt he'd be going anywhere without at least some time spent in camp.

smiley_face

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He left SA on 30 October 2012 and arrived in Ireland on the same day. Irish residency began on that day

http://www.the42.ie/cj-stander-munster-rugby-654684-Oct2012/

Mind you he would need to be added to the squad 48 hours before playing so added on 29 October and he wouldnt be IQ then. One for the lawyers to argue over maybe.

No, I read an interview before the extended squads for the RWC were being selected, it stated that he would not be eligible before the final, so unfortunately he didn't come into contention at all.
He might have arrived in the country that evening, but for whatever reason it will be 1st November, not 30th October, when he will be IQ.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/pro12-final-is-fitting-finale-in-cj-stander-s-stand-out-season-1.2231406

Either way, 30th October/1st November, he will not be called up before the final, Conan or Ruddock would get called up with Sean O'Brien moving to 8 if needed.

total former

pickarooney wrote: »

I thought heenan was a project player.

He is, but doesn't qualify for a while yet. Many of the players on that list can qualify eventually if they stick around.

CIARAN_BOYLE

smiley_face wrote: »

Either way, 30th October/1st November, he will not be called up before the final, Conan or Ruddock would get called up with Sean O'Brien moving to 8 if needed.

I wasn't expecting
I don't expect him to be called up. Conan Ruddock and Diack would be called ahead of him just because they have more experience in camp. Its just interesting trivia.

Given the 48 hour cool down period (ie you have to call someone up then wait 48 hours before they can play) he would have to be called up on 29 October to make the squad for the final and as he wouldn't be eligible on that date he wouldn't be able to be called up.

pickarooney wrote: »

I thought heenan was a project player.

I've added an asterix to denote players who will be come eligible for Ireland due to residency

smiley_face

total former wrote: »

He is, but doesn't qualify for a while yet. Many of the players on that list can qualify eventually if they stick around.

AFAIK I don't think Heenan is officially a project player, but in reality that's what he is. He did come over very young though so will be IQ next July 2016 at the age of 24 (His birthday is St. Patrick's Day, a sign or what!).

Connacht's official project player is Bundee Aki.

Ceadog

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He left SA on 30 October 2012 and arrived in Ireland on the same day. Irish residency began on that day

http://www.the42.ie/cj-stander-munster-rugby-654684-Oct2012/

Mind you he would need to be added to the squad 48 hours before playing so added on 29 October and he wouldnt be IQ then. One for the lawyers to argue over maybe.

Josh Strauss only qualified for Scotland on Monday but he trained with them and was named in their squad so I presume in theory Stander's selection would be possible.