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How to finish the joint between the old house and Extension

  • 12-09-2015 10:32am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41


    Hi there

    As the title says I have built and extension against the original house.
    Both the original house and the extension have their own rafts and the walls in the extension are kissing the original house but is not physically interlocked as i suspect there will be movement and any interlocked blocks will fail.

    I am now preparing for plastering and wonder how best to finish the joint.

    Can anyone recommend the process, method and materials to use.

    Thank you
    John


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    They should have been joined during construction using patent wall ties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 muganj


    You are correct we do have Wall ties between the walls
    The Insulation is also interlocked

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    muganj wrote: »
    You are correct we do have Wall ties between the walls
    The Insulation is also interlocked

    Thanks

    what do u mean by interlocked: the two posts suggest two contradictory situations using the same word
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interlock

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    The new and old wall should have been tied in during construction.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,349 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Something along the lines of these should have been used during construction.

    http://www.ancon.co.uk/products/wall-ties-and-restraint-fixings/other-restraint-fixings/frame-cramps

    Obviously using the correct fixing for the type of block used.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    I presume the block layers used metal ties to join the old and new that we can't see now . It looks like the new wall will be plastered a bit proud of the old wall because the blocks are out almost flush with the old plaster so I would put a PVC stop bead on the new blocks and plaster into it leaving an expansion line between both walls .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 muganj


    That you all.

    Bullocks - that is exactly what we are considering doing now

    I did use wall ties between the buildings.

    I was considering putting expanding foam between the walls, plastering the new wall to a stop bead but leaving a gap between the two buildings. Then after a year or so putting mastic or silicone into that gap.

    What you think ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    kceire wrote: »
    Something along the lines of these should have been used during construction.

    http://www.ancon.co.uk/products/wall-ties-and-restraint-fixings/other-restraint-fixings/frame-cramps

    Obviously using the correct fixing for the type of block used.

    This not the correct type of fixing to tie into an existing building.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,349 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    aujopimur wrote: »
    This not the correct type of fixing to tie into an existing building.

    I was more so pointing the op to the type of fixings and a particular brand / website. Posting from the phone so detailed searches is quite difficult at times.

    Hence my text : obviously using the correct fixing for your type of block.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 neverfinished


    We used these to attach the old stone building to the extension. I can't remember what they are called but I can ask the builder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 muganj


    Thank you for your input lads but can we please talk about the render at the joint
    Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 neverfinished


    Sorry. I guess I didn't pay attention to your post op. Apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Fill masonry joint with mastic
    Scud, scratch coat
    Run stop bead up to within 6 mm of orignal wall
    Finish coat render
    Mastic 6mm joint neatly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Fill masonry joint with mastic
    Scud, scratch coat
    Run stop bead up to within 6 mm of orignal wall
    Finish coat render
    Mastic 6mm joint neatly

    Thats it in a nutshell Bonzo , if possible I'd keep the joint tighter than 6mm but it depends on how straight the old corner is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 muganj


    Thank you lads
    I will do just that
    John


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