Multiple Driving Offences Advice

Fletcher92

Hi all,

So basically a friend of mine recently committed several stupid driving offences.....The friend in question is in his early 20s, holds a category A1/A2 motorcycle learner permit and has never had any run in with the law or driving authorities before...

So the other night, he was pulled over by a garda for running a red light apparently. This was only the beginning...He was also carrying a pillion passenger which is not allowed with a learner permit...Also, the passenger wasn't wearing a helmet....On top of that he wasn't displaying a learner display thing...This isn't even the worst of it!...

It then transpired that he didn't have tax or insurance although the garda didn't actually mention anything about insurance, just the out of date tax disc from the previous owner....My friend was asked to show his learner permit and then the garda jotted down some details like address etc....The garda said my friend would be sent something in the post - a fine or charge or something along those lines - the garda didn't go into much details...then, my friend was permitted to drive home immediately and to await the pending post for further instruction...So that's basically the situation then....

So I'd really appreciate some advice on where he now stands and what fate awaits him or any info. at all of use?....Thanks!

whomitconcerns

Your "friend" is in line for some big fines and a ban. No insurance no excuses

Ken.

Depending on the judge on the day he could get jailed for the no insurance.

Rubberchikken

so he basicially had nothing right. no tax, no insurance, no L tabard, a pillion passenger with no helmet. i think he should take what comes and count himself lucky he got caught before something had really gone wrong.

Fletcher92

Thanks for your replies. What is the best actions he can take now to minimise the damage? For example, would getting insurance before these issues are followed up make a difference at all. What exactly will the procedure be now, as in, when will he get word in the post or whatever of his offences and further instructions?

ezra_pound

I'd imagine he'll get a summons in the post listing the individual offences.

Fletcher92

Is it possible the garda won't pursue these offences at all? I mean, it's surprising that, despite all these offences, they let him just drive off home like that...

ezra_pound

Very unlikely. They wouldn't really be doing their job right.


It's also quite common to have that many offences in road traffic hearings. Once someone isn't insured, they tend to have a string of other offences, just like your friend. So the fact that they let him off home doesn't mean much. They would have been wasting their time and his bringing him to the station .

Ken.

Hard for a Garda to prove if a bike has insurance at the side of the road. If the guy was asked did he have insurance and said yes and its proved he's lying they'll come down on him like a ton of bricks.

Fletcher92

ok, since technically nothing has been officially charged against him yet or may not be for possibly several months, is it possible for him to still get insurance and taxed and be allowed to drive on his bike until such a time as he is officially punished?..

ezra_pound

Unless aa judge revokes his license, he can drive in acordance with law and can tax , insure etc. I mean, he hasn't even got penalty points from the incidwnt yet. Obviouly he'll have to inform insurance company when they are inevitably imposed and that may automatically involve him being off the road for having too many points. Actually he probably will be off tge road alright -from penalty points.

Fletcher92

ken wrote: »

Hard for a Garda to prove if a bike has insurance at the side of the road. If the guy was asked did he have insurance and said yes and its proved he's lying they'll come down on him like a ton of bricks.

My friend says they didn't ask about insurance nor did he say he was or wasn't insured but they'll see he isn't insured when they look into things, I'm sure?..

Ken.

First question they ask is have you any convictions pending or in the last 5 years. Answer is suppose to be yes and a quote will be through the roof. If he lies and has an accident the insurance won't payout to him. To answer your question yes he can get insurance and tax.

Ken.

Fletcher92 wrote: »

My friend says they didn't ask about insurance nor did he say he was or wasn't insured but they'll see he isn't insured when they look into things, I'm sure?..

Their is a good chance the Garda told him to produce within 10 days. Most people miss that bit when stopped. When the summons comes 3 extra charges will be on the sheet, failure to produce tax,insurance and licence.

Fletcher92

ken wrote: »

First question they ask is have you any convictions pending or in the last 5 years. Answer is suppose to be yes and a quote will be through the roof. If he lies and has an accident the insurance won't payout to him. To answer your question yes he can get insurance and tax.

so what you're saying is that he is actually able to get insured and taxed but he has to disclose the pending situation to them....on the other hand, you're saying he can get insured without mentioning these pending charges and he'll get away with it as long as he never has cause to claim his insurance....won't the insurance company be able to see these offences pending or does it not matter as long as he takes out insurance before the offences are officially registered to him?..

Fletcher92

ken wrote: »

Their is a good chance the Garda told him to produce within 10 days. Most people miss that bit when stopped. When the summons comes 3 extra charges will be on the sheet, failure to produce tax,insurance and licence.

produce it where within ten days?...so if he gets insured next week, it won't help cause they'll see he took it out after the date of offence.

Thanks for your help by the way, it's appreciated.

Ken.

Fletcher92 wrote: »

so what you're saying is that he is actually able to get insured and taxed but he has to disclose the pending situation to them....on the other hand, you're saying he can get insured without mentioning these pending charges and he'll get away with it as long as he never has cause to claim his insurance....won't the insurance company be able to see these offences pending or does it not matter as long as he takes out insurance before the offences are officially registered to him?..

I'm only guessing here but if he got insurance today it won't cover him for the time of the stop. At the moment my guess is the Garda will wait for the 10 days to produce and then issue proceedings so at the moment he has no charges against him. Personally I think it'll be a waste of money to get taxed and insured cause there is a good chance he'll lose his licence for the no insurance.

Ken.

Fletcher92 wrote: »

produce it where within ten days?...so if he gets insured next week, it won't help cause they'll see he took it out after the date of offence.

Thanks for your help by the way, it's appreciated.

When you get stopped as I have been the Garda will say (if you didn't have your licence with you) whats your nearest station, he'll then tell you you have 10 days to show the documents in the station. If the garda didn't say that to your friend he'll be the first one in the history of the state not too.

Fletcher92

ken wrote: »

When you get stopped as I have been the Garda will say (if you didn't have your licence with you) whats your nearest station, he'll then tell you you have 10 days to show the documents in the station. If the garda didn't say that to your friend he'll be the first one in the history of the state not too.

He had his learner permit with him but he doesn't recall anything about showing documents at a station within ten days....the garda just said something will be sent in the post and he was told to drive home immediately

Losty Dublin

Fletcher92 wrote: »

He had his learner permit with him but he doesn't recall anything about showing documents at a station within ten days....the garda just said something will be sent in the post and he was told to drive home immediately

If Gardaí stop you on the side of the road they generally ask you to produce your insurance and licence at a station of your choice. Given the gravity of what your friend has done I'm shocked that they didn't asked him to produce same.

Mind you, given his apparent recklessness I'd wager that he was asked and has forgotten same :pac:

Fletcher92

Losty Dublin wrote: »

If Gardaí stop you on the side of the road they generally ask you to produce your insurance and licence at a station of your choice. Given the gravity of what your friend has done I'm shocked that they didn't asked him to produce same.

Mind you, given his apparent recklessness I'd wager that he was asked and has forgotten same :pac:

Well, my friend has ADHD so it's possible he may have forgotten in all the panic of the moment. Neither he or myself are very educated in the ways of adult life, hence why I'm here asking all these probably stupid questions that most people would know the answer to lol..

slimjimmc

Can his pillion passenger shed some light on what was said?

Fletcher92

slimjimmc wrote: »

Can his pillion passenger shed some light on what was said?

The pillion passenger was just some woman that jumped on the bike while he was at traffic lights and asked for a ride around the town and back....It was running a red light just before he dropped her back off that got him into this mess!

cerastes

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Is it possible the garda won't pursue these offences at all? I mean, it's surprising that, despite all these offences, they let him just drive off home like that...

No

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Well, my friend has ADHD so it's possible he may have forgotten in all the panic of the moment. Neither he or myself are very educated in the ways of adult life, hence why I'm here asking all these probably stupid question that most people would know the answer to lol..

You dont really need to be very educated in the ways of anything to know you need insurance on any motor vehicle in this country, I dont really go in for the they deserve everything they get thrown at them replies, but what did they expect drawing attention to themselves with no helmet on the pillion? either he or the pillion must be complete idiots to ride without a helmet, if not at least for the injury they could receive but because they may as well have hung a big sign on themselves saying look at me!
Anyway, its pretty much a big FU to everyone who pays a percent of their insurance to cover people who dont get insured.

Maybe they should take a break from the road, probably will have to anyway. The thing is, if you are nabbed like this, it basically costs a lot more in the long run,
things I wouldnt risk,
driving with no insurance, driving with drink, because I know I cant do without my transport and its just not worth the time cost or hassle to deal with.

WearstheFoxhat

You sure he didn't do anything else? He's not a member of ISIS or maybe Taliban?

Fletcher92

cerastes wrote: »

No



You dont really need to be very educated in the ways of anything to know you need insurance on any motor vehicle in this country, I dont really go in for the they deserve everything they get thrown at them replies, but what did they expect drawing attention to themselves with no helmet on the pillion? either he or the pillion must be complete idiots to ride without a helmet, if not at least for the injury they could receive but because they may as well have hung a big sign on themselves saying look at me!
Anyway, its pretty much a big FU to everyone who pays a percent of their insurance to cover people who dont get insured.

Maybe they should take a break from the road, probably will have to anyway. The thing is, if you are nabbed like this, it basically costs a lot more in the long run,
things I wouldnt risk,
driving with no insurance, driving with drink, because I know I cant do without my transport and its just not worth the time cost or hassle to deal with.

I know you need to drive with insurance, I was referring to the fallout from the incident and legal ramifications etc.....Also, my friend wasn't drinking but the girl that jumped on the bike had just come out of a club apparently and hopped on the bike randomly....he acted foolishly on impulse and unfortunately got caught in the act.... Apart from that he's a good driver and knows the rules of the road and all, if you look past the no insurance and tax etc.

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

ok, since technically nothing has been officially charged against him yet or may not be for possibly several months, is it possible for him to still get insurance and taxed and be allowed to drive on his bike until such a time as he is officially punished?..

Fletcher92 wrote: »

produce it where within ten days?...so if he gets insured next week, it won't help cause they'll see he took it out after the date of offence.

Thanks for your help by the way, it's appreciated.

Produce his documents at the garda station, if he doesn't have in date documents for the time and date of the offence he can be charged. He should follow up and check if he is required to present documents.

Fletcher92 wrote: »

I know you need to drive with insurance, I was referring to the fallout from the incident and legal ramifications etc.....Also, my friend wasn't drinking but the girl that jumped on the bike had just come out of a club apparently and hopped on the bike randomly....he acted foolishly on impulse and unfortunately got caught in the act.... Apart from that he's a good driver and knows the rules of the road and all, if you look past the no insurance and tax etc.

He sounds like a great driver alright, driving around with no tax and especially no insurance, are you/him aware that you can be jailed for driving with no insurance and/or banned from driving?

meeko11

Fletcher92 wrote: »

I know you need to drive with insurance, I was referring to the fallout from the incident and legal ramifications etc.....Also, my friend wasn't drinking but the girl that jumped on the bike had just come out of a club apparently and hopped on the bike randomly....he acted foolishly on impulse and unfortunately got caught in the act.... Apart from that he's a good driver and knows the rules of the road and all, if you look past the no insurance and tax etc.

I would say your friend will get a 3 to 6 month suspended sentence,with a learner permit you can not carry pasengers on a motorbike, if the garda took the reg number he knows your friend has no insurance.He needs a good solicitor.Big fine maybe 6 penalty points driving ban .

Losty Dublin

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Well, my friend has ADHD so it's possible he may have forgotten in all the panic of the moment. Neither he or myself are very educated in the ways of adult life, hence why I'm here asking all these probably stupid questions that most people would know the answer to lol..

If he is unable to remember a garda telling him to produce insurance etc after acting the gob****e on his moped then he really shouldn't be trusted on the road. You'd be wise to let him work his way out of this, keep your own bib clean and to not hitch a lift from him in future

Fletcher92

Alright guys, no need for the telling off and moral judgement ok...he's accepting full resposibility for his actions and is deeply ashamed of himself...have none of you ever made stupid mistakes before?...There's far worse than him out there. At least he's not out dealing drugs, robbing gas stations or raping women....His is more a crime of foolishness and naivety than anything downright sinister

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Alright guys, no need for the telling off and moral judgement ok...he's accepting full resposibility for his actions and is deeply ashamed of himself...have none of you ever made stupid mistakes

Driving without insurance is not a stupid mistake, which is why it's considered an offence that will incur a jail sentence.

.His is more a crime of foolishness and naivite than anything downright sinister

No it's not. It's a crime of deliberate intent to drive without the right insurance, and in the event of causing death or injury to someone not having the insurance to cover it.

I truly despise anyone who drives without insurance. One of the reasons insurance is so high in this country is people like you/your friend.

Why did he even think it was alright to drive without insurance? And to take a passenger against the rules of his licence? And to drive through a red light?

Seriously you are defending the indefensible.

Fletcher92

Stheno wrote: »

Driving without insurance is not a stupid mistake, which is why it's considered an offence that will incur a jail sentence.

A jail sentence seems a bit harsh....he didn't run someone down or anything and has no prior involvement with the law...A fine and a ban is what he deserves.

Stheno wrote: »

No it's not. It's a crime of deliberate intent to drive without the right insurance, and in the event of causing death or injury to someone not having the insurance to cover it.

I truly despise anyone who drives without insurance. One of the reasons insurance is so high in this country is people like you/your friend.

Why did he even think it was alright to drive without insurance? And to take a passenger against the rules of his licence? And to drive through a red light?

Seriously you are defending the indefensible.

Everyone deserve repentance and a second chance...At least he's not one of the many thousand scum in this country claiming dole and benefits for being too lazy to work...If you haven't got anything further constructive to add, could you please get off your high-horse and butt out of it? Thanks.

12gauge dave

Since he can't remember if they asked him to produce insurance or not he will just have to play the waiting game to see what comes on post 3/4 months seems the norm for receiving a summons after the incident in my experience.
Nothing mite come in the post or they could summon him for everything who knows but I'd pick the latter if I was a betting man.
I'm in rural area and a local lad with ADHD has done slot of similar things but Gardai gave him a lot of warnings before prosecuting.
Just play the waiting game is all he can do now.

Exclamation Marc

Fletcher92 wrote: »

A jail sentence seems a bit harsh....he didn't run someone down or anything and has no prior involvement with the law...A fine and a ban is what he deserves.

Everyone deserve repentance and a second chance...At least he's not one of the many thousand scum in this country claiming dole and benefits for being too lazy to work...If you haven't got anything further constructive to add, could you please get off your high-horse and butt out of it? Thanks.

In fairness OP, if your friend receives a jail sentence he should count himself lucky that he'll get out in a few months for his list of offences and not for killing someone on the road. You are correct that he didn't run someone down but there was nothing to say that if he wasn't stopped, it wasn't going to happen the following day or ten minutes after the stoppage. And without getting into the morals of it or into an entirely different argument, acting in a reckless way that could have killed somebody is far worse than cheating money off the state.

Your friend should produce his documents to the garda station and proceed to act fully in compliance with the gardais orders. Even if he somehow believes that he was not asked to, he should attend the station asap and demonstrate that he is fully aware of his mistakes and show a lot of contrition when dealing with the gardai. If he's not sure which garda station, either his local one or the one in which he was stopped.

Any sort of leniency from here on in may depend on how fully he co-operates as he is totally at the mercy of the gardai given the bingo card list of offences.

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

A jail sentence seems a bit harsh....he didn't run someone down or anything and has no prior involvement with the law...A fine and a ban is what he deserves.


Everyone deserve repentance and a second chance...At least he's not one of the many thousand scum in this country claiming dole and benefits for being too lazy to work...If you haven't got anything further constructive to add, could you please get off your high-horse and butt out of it? Thanks.

No sorry, I'll stay on my high horse.

The law states that you can be jailed/banned for lack of insurance.

No one driving without insurance deserves a second chance.

Your "friend" has been caught committing multiple offences, which shows a complete disregard for any sort of laws/regulation, I genuinely hope they face the maximum penalty for this, and at least get banned for driving.

As for calling people on the dole scum, you don't seem to realise that many genuine people ended up on it in recent years due to the recession, calling them scum while defending someone who drives without tax and insurance, knowingly takes on a pillion passenger while not allowed to do so, and running a red light is a bit ironic.

Fletcher92

12gauge dave wrote: »

Since he can't remember if they asked him to produce insurance or not he will just have to play the waiting game to see what comes on post 3/4 months seems the norm for receiving a summons after the incident in my experience.
Nothing mite come in the post or they could summon him for everything who knows but I'd pick the latter if I was a betting man.
I'm in rural area and a local lad with ADHD has done slot of similar things but Gardai gave him a lot of warnings before prosecuting.
Just play the waiting game is all he can do now.

Thanks for your helpful reply!...It's sad because the night of the incident, he was in a bad way emotionally and decided to just go out on his bike randomly to "clear his head"...Things haven't been going well for him recently - college problems, trying to find some part-time work not going well and so on...This really is the last thing he needs atm but it is what it is sadly..

Fletcher92

Stheno wrote: »

No sorry, I'll stay on my high horse.

The law states that you can be jailed/banned for lack of insurance.

No one driving without insurance deserves a second chance.

Your "friend" has been caught committing multiple offences, which shows a complete disregard for any sort of laws/regulation, I genuinely hope they face the maximum penalty for this, and at least get banned for driving.

As for calling people on the dole scum, you don't seem to realise that many genuine people ended up on it in recent years due to the recession, calling them scum while defending someone who drives without tax and insurance, knowingly takes on a pillion passenger while not allowed to do so, and running a red light is a bit ironic.

You have your views and I have mine. Personally, I'd say the genuine people you speak of are in the minority and the majority of scum I referred to are the ones that should be locked up for cheating the system.

Also, quit putting friend in quotation marks cause you're mistaken there.

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

You have your views and I have mine. Personally, I'd say the genuine people you speak of are in the minority and the majority of scum I referred to are the ones that should be locked up for cheating the system.

Doubt it tbh, when we were in the boom we'd less than 5% unemployment.

As for your friend, he deserves to be banned/imprisoned for deliberately endangering other peoples lives just because he was feeling low, and went out for a ride without insurance, and not bothering to observe red lights.

I'm sick of coming across motorists like him who think the rules of the road don't apply

Losty Dublin

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Thanks for your helpful reply!...It's sad because the night of the incident, he was in a bad way emotionally and decided to just go out on his bike randomly to "clear his head"...Things haven't been going well for him recently -

Well it really worked a treat

toptom

Anyone committing those offenses should be jailed.

Fletcher92

Stheno wrote: »

Doubt it tbh, when we were in the boom we'd less than 5% unemployment.

As for your friend, he deserves to be banned/imprisoned for deliberately endangering other peoples lives just because he was feeling low, and went out for a ride without insurance, and not bothering to observe red lights.

I'm sick of coming across motorists like him who think the rules of the road don't apply

I never said he thinks the rules don't apply to him. I came here seeking some info. on what is likely to happen next etc.

And he wasn't really endangering people's lives....It was the middle of the night and he broke a red light....Yes, he should'nt have taken a passenger without a helmet but he wasn't speeding and he didn't go asking for some stranger to get on the bike either....he wasn't in a monster truck rampaging through a tesco somewhere....it's a scooter for christ sake!

Fletcher92

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Well it really worked a treat

Yeah, that's brutal irony for ya lol

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

I never said he thinks the rules don't apply to him. I came here seeking some info. on what is likely to happen next etc.

And he wasn't really endangering people's lives....It was the middle of the night and he broke a red light....Yes, he should'nt have taken a passenger without a helmet but he wasn't speeding and he didn't go asking for some stranger to get on the bike either....he wasn't in a monster truck rampaging through a tesco somewhere....it's a scooter for christ sake!

What's likely to happen next, is that within six months he will be summonsed to court for the various offences if the gardai realise he had no insurance.

If that happens he will be banned, and possibly jailed (unlikely on a first offence)

If he is not summonsed to court he will get a fixed penalty notice for the most serious offence if there is no summons for insurance, which cannot be dealt with through fixed penalty.

So if he doesn't get a fixed penalty notice within about three weeks of being stopped, he can wait up to six months for a summons.

You most certainly give off the attitude that he thinks the rules don't apply to him, he could well have caused a fatal accident skipping that red light if other vehicles swerved to avoid him.

Get off YOUR high horse and accept that your friend behaved in a reprehensible manner

12gauge dave

What's done is done try and forget about it for now he will be back in college soon so that will keep his mind off things I've been in a similar boat myself you just have to get on with things and try and take it easy on the drink and that if your in a bad mood before you drink it will only get worse when drunk and it's a depressant.
He won't see prison on his first offence and he's in college judges don't like ruining young peoples lives.
If expect a driving ban of maybe 1-2years and a fine.
I'm on a driving ban myself for drink driving I'm back in November. It took getting used to but life goes on and now I forget about my ban Half the time.

Exclamation Marc

Fletcher92 wrote: »

I never said he thinks the rules don't apply to him. I came here seeking some info. on what is likely to happen next etc.

And he wasn't really endangering people's lives....It was the middle of the night and he broke a red light....Yes, he should'nt have taken a passenger without a helmet but he wasn't speeding and he didn't go asking for some stranger to get on the bike either....he wasn't in a monster truck rampaging through a tesco somewhere....it's a scooter for christ sake!

I'm sorry, but you're contradicting yourself in the very next line.

To answer your original post and your question, there's literally no limit to what can happen to him given that he broke a staggering amount of laws. He could be fined, banned, jailed, and/or given a suspended sentence.

And to give advice, tell him to attend his local garda station immediately.

Fletcher92

Stheno wrote: »

What's likely to happen next, is that within six months he will be summonsed to court for the various offences if the gardai realise he had no insurance.

If that happens he will be banned, and possibly jailed (unlikely on a first offence)

If he is not summonsed to court he will get a fixed penalty notice for the most serious offence if there is no summons for insurance, which cannot be dealt with through fixed penalty.

So if he doesn't get a fixed penalty notice within about three weeks of being stopped, he can wait up to six months for a summons.

You most certainly give off the attitude that he thinks the rules don't apply to him, he could well have caused a fatal accident skipping that red light if other vehicles swerved to avoid him.

Get off YOUR high horse and accept that your friend behaved in a reprehensible manner

Ok, now that's better....there was some very helpful info there with less of the attitude and judgement....that's all I wanted to know...if he wanted public condemnation, I would have brought this issue to Judge Judy or something like that...

So is 6 months the standard for a summons?...If he doesn't get a summons, but the fixed penalty, is that less serious cause then there's no knowledge of the no insurance?..

Apologies for the attitude myself...I'm young and still learning stuff I don't understand or sometime even agree with which annoys me...

btw, there was like no traffic on the road so don't think this was going down during rush hour as that really would be a d*ck move

One eyed Jack

Fletcher92 wrote: »

I never said he thinks the rules don't apply to him. I came here seeking some info. on what is likely to happen next etc.

And he wasn't really endangering people's lives....It was the middle of the night and he broke a red light....Yes, he should'nt have taken a passenger without a helmet but he wasn't speeding and he didn't go asking for some stranger to get on the bike either....he wasn't in a monster truck rampaging through a tesco somewhere....it's a scooter for christ sake!

Seriously?

I'm actually left wondering with you and your friends attitude, do either of you actually realise the gravity of the situation you're in?

I can't tell you what's likely to happen, but I hope for both your sakes it's enough to have both of you realise the gravity of the offences because that just isn't on. There's no point in saying "but so and so is worse" or "at least he wasn't doing so and so".

That's the kind of talk will really wind people up the wrong way.

Fletcher92

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

And to give advice, tell him to attend his local garda station immediately.

But what if by some chance the garda will subsequently turn a blind eye to it or even forget to follow up on it at all?...Unlikely but what if?....How would he approach the gardai on the subject without admission of guilt?

Stheno

Fletcher92 wrote: »

Ok, now that's better....there was some very helpful info there with less of the attitude and judgement....that's all I wanted to know...if he wanted public condemnation, I would have brought this issue to Judge Judy or something like that...

So is 6 months the standard for a summons?...If he doesn't get a summons, but the fixed penalty, is that less serious cause then there's no knowledge of the no insurance?..

Apologies for the attitude myself...I'm young and still learning stuff I don't understand or sometime even agree with which annoys me...

btw, there was like no traffic on the road so don't think this was going down during rush hour as that really would be a d*ck move

Generally a summons is served within six months, it has to be issued within six months so it may take longer.

Even if he gets a fixed penaly notice, he may still be summonsed on insurance, as that is not a fixed penalty offence, so getting a fixed penalty is no guarantee of no summons in his case.

If he can't remember being asked about the insurance he needs to check with his local station.

And seriously, get over the fact there was no traffic on the road/it was late rubbish, myself and my OH were driving home late one night, there was no traffic on the road, and when we went through a junction there was someone pissed out of their skull lying in the middle of the road.

The sort of behaviour your friend displayed with his driving and skipping lights wouldn't result in a good outcome in that sort of situation.

deadanonymau5

I love these "a friend of mine" threads! You're a first time poster too....




:pac:

Exclamation Marc

Fletcher92 wrote: »

But what if by some chance the garda will subsequently turn a blind eye to it or even forget to follow up on it at all?...Unlikely but what if?....How would he approach the gardai on the subject without admission of guilt?

The only advice you'll get is that he should attend the garda station.

You won't get any advice here on how he should deal with gardai. If he needs that, he should seek a solicitor. Either way, he should attend the garda station as requested (whether he likes to remember that he was requested to or not).