US OPEN August 31 - September 13 2015 (SEE MOD NOTE POST #8)

the_monkey

Qualies under way, don't know if James McGee is playing or not ..



Official site

http://www.usopen.org/index.html

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

the_monkey wrote: »

Qualies under way, don't know if James McGee is playing or not ..



Official site

http://www.usopen.org/index.html

McGee had surgery not that long ago, not sure what on or how long his recovery is but I haven't heard much about him lately.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Kyrgios v Murray in R1. Who cares about the rest of the draw.

yerwanthere123

Kyrgios-Murray could be fun, but it seems like the kinda match that'll be hyped but ultimately turn out to be a Murray straight-sets win.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Kyrgios-Murray could be fun, but it seems like the kinda match that'll be hyped but ultimately turn out to be a Murray straight-sets win.

Press will have a field day painting Murray as the white knight feminist hero taking on the evil misogynist of Kyrgios.

yerwanthere123

I hope the crowd are nice to him in NY, give him a chance to redeem himself. If he's a dick again then... carry on

Floppybits

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I hope the crowd are nice to him in NY, give him a chance to redeem himself. If he's a dick again then... carry on

Hopefully they give him an awful time. He doesn't deserve anything more. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets, he got booed in Cincinnati. Imagine he beat Murray and made the quarter final where he would meet Stan, now that would be interesting.

Cant see him beating Murray though.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Here are the links to the draws.

Men
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/index.html?promo=fromatp

Women
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ws/index.html?promo=subnav

I'm just going to put a little Mod Note here. Every time there's a slam new people appear so just in case....

PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION CIVIL AND AS ON TOPIC AS POSSIBLE. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW SERENA WOULD DO ON THE MEN'S TOUR OR HOW PLAYER X, Y AND Z ARE DOPERS, CHEATS, FINISHED ETC. ETC. GRUNTING/SHRIEKING IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE PLAYERS SO IT IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED HERE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT TURN DOWN THE VOLUME ON YOUR TV.

yerwanthere123

Floppybits wrote: »

Hopefully they give him an awful time. He doesn't deserve anything more. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets, he got booed in Cincinnati. Imagine he beat Murray and made the quarter final where he would meet Stan, now that would be interesting.

Cant see him beating Murray though.

Personally I think t's being blown out of proportion a bit now, yeah what he said was stupish and dickish, does he really deserve to still be jeered for it weeks later though? Give him a chance to redeem himself.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

^ Personally I think t's being blown out of proportion a bit now, yeah what he said was stupish and dickish, does he really deserve to still be jeered for it weeks later though? Give him a chance to redeem himself.

He doesn't seem to have made any effort to redeem himself though. The ATP haven't really handled the situation either which will probably wind people up a bit more too. Chances are he'll be on his best behaviour for the rest of the year to avoid a ban but we won't actually know if he's learned his lesson until his "probation" is up.

Floppybits

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Personally I think t's being blown out of proportion a bit now, yeah what he said was stupish and dickish, does he really deserve to still be jeered for it weeks later though? Give him a chance to redeem himself.

Its not just what he done and said on the court, its what he hasn't done since and what he has said he has done but hasn't.

He didn't apologise to Wawrinka or Vekic personally, when he said in his press conference he did. He had a chance and blew it.

why should he be given support?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Floppybits wrote: »

Its not just what he done and said on the court, its what he hasn't done since and what he has said he has done but hasn't.

He didn't apologise to Wawrinka or Vekic personally, when he said in his press conference he did. He had a chance and blew it.

why should he be given support?

There's probably a happy medium. They don't have to boo him and hurl abuse, they could just ignore him. Imagine a big stadium full of people just being dead quiet as you walk out, as your name is announced, after any/every point you win.

yerwanthere123

So, do we think anyone can stop Serena over the next fortnight? Looking at the draw, I see only Sloane Stephens, Madison Keys and Azarenka in the final as people who could cause her problems, and even then, could they actually beat her? So difficult to see it happening. But basically if she is to lose, I think it would take an outstanding performance from her opponent, and a complete meltdown from Serena.

the_monkey

Sharapova pulls out

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/tennis/34104670

RosyLily

Sharapova is out due to right leg injury. Hasn't played since Wimbledon but hopes to be back for the Asian swing. Bit of a disappointing season for her.

Mardy Fish's last hurrah. He's playing Grandstand tomorrow. Up first I think. I always liked him....seemed like a nice guy. Spoke very honestly about his struggles off the court.

yerwanthere123

Maria

yerwanthere123

So, what upsets might we see on day 1? I reckon Cibulkova will take out Ana, which I wouldn't mind actually. Sloane could lose to Vandeweghe, but there wouldn't be too much shame in that result tbh, Vandeweghe having a good year. Nadal has a dangerous match against Coric too, but I highly doubt Borna will be able to beat him over five sets.

Re-watching last year's men's final on Sky Sports now, what a hideous match that was!

cowboyBuilder

I reckon Cilic wont make it past the 1st week ... then his ranking will tumble with all those points to defend.

I think Kei can do well this year.

Floppybits

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I reckon Cilic wont make it past the 1st week ... then his ranking will tumble with all those points to defend.

I think Kei can do well this year.

Kei is gone and so is Ivanovic. Not a surprise really.

RosyLily

Jankovic, Watson and Pliskova also out. Nice to see Fish through to the next round where he'll play Feli.

Halep up first tomorrow on AA. Murray-Kyrgios is night session.

First time in years I'll miss the majority of tennis. Stupid first real job!!:mad::pac:

cowboyBuilder

:O !!!!


Kei !!!, well well well, we have ourselves an upset already.

cowboyBuilder

dont count Nadal out either ..

Floppybits

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

:O !!!!


Kei !!!, well well well, we have ourselves an upset already.

Was he carrying an injury? He is so injury prone that he will need to take a look at his game and his training to see why he is so injury prone and make some changes to prevent it.

lostcat

Floppybits wrote: »

Was he carrying an injury? He is so injury prone that he will need to take a look at his game and his training to see why he is so injury prone and make some changes to prevent it.

Him going out really opens up Djokovics side of the draw. Everyone who 'might' reasonably beat him is on the other side now. And no, Nadal isn't going to beat him. He should make the final now if he has enough left in the tank (both mentally and physically), he seemed a bit drained in the last two tournaments.

The other half of the draw looks jam-packed and most of the interesting early matches should be in this half, but Federer and Murray should make the semi.

RosyLily

Nice win for Young. Coming back from 2 set down to beat #11 seed Simon. Another seed bites the dust! Seems to be a few retirements as well.....season taking its toll on the players.

Rjd2

Murray v Kryigos is good fun so far.

Murray obviously strong fav, but Nick playing quite well if a little erratic, not expecting a comfortable match whatsoever for Murray.

smurfs5

Oh, Laura. 4-0 up in the final set against Vesnina and she didn't close it out. Would have been a big confidence booster to win but she's only coming back so I'm sure there will be a lot of positives she'll take out of today's performance.

Thought Coric was a nightmare R1 draw for Rafa but from the little I saw, he was playing well and very aggressively- did well to get through in 4. Coric, though, is such an exciting talent- you just know he'll be a future world No.1. Him, Zverev and Kokkinakis look like they'll be the future. You could throw Kyrgios in there as well but I'm not sure he wants it enough to ever win a Slam, never mind the off-court antics and unpredictable style.

Serena's draw looking very straightforward now. Vandeweghe will probably trouble her a bit but probably not enough to get a win. Can't see Keys beating her. If she meets Bencic, that could be very interesting. Belinda's having a great year and she has the quality and fearlessness to cause an upset but we'll see.

Think Murray should get through this as he's playing his best tennis and seems to be in a really good place mentally. A nightmare R1 draw for him as well, though. Forgetting his personality and off-court drama, Kyrgios is just brilliant to watch- such an unpredictable style which makes for great viewing, seeing the contrast to the style of other players.

Rjd2

smurfs5 wrote: »

Oh, Laura. 4-0 up in the final set against Vesnina and she didn't close it out. Would have been a big confidence booster to win but she's only coming back so I'm sure there will be a lot of positives she'll take out of today's performance.

Thought Coric was a nightmare R1 draw for Rafa but from the little I saw, he was playing well and very aggressively- did well to get through in 4. Coric, though, is such an exciting talent- you just know he'll be a future world No.1. Him and Zverev look like they'll be the future. You could throw Kyrgios in there as well but I'm not sure he wants it enough to ever win a Slam, never mind the off-court antics and unpredictable style.

Serena's draw looking very straightforward now. Vandeweghe will probably trouble her a bit but probably not enough to get a win. Can't see Keys beating her. If she meets Bencic, that could be very interesting. Belinda's having a great year and she has the quality and fearlessness to cause an upset but we'll see.

Think Murray should get through this as he's playing his best tennis and seems to be in a really good place mentally. A nightmare R1 draw for him as well, though. Forgetting his personality and off-court drama, Kyrgios is just brilliant to watch- such an unpredictable style which makes for great viewing, seeing the contrast to the style of other players.

Thiem looks a talent as well,will be interesting to keep an eye on him.


Kokkinakis was very unlucky against Gasquet, got injured in the fourth set and could barely move, it was actually quite grim to watch but definitely seen enough in him that in a few years he could be a threat.

yeah its a brutal draw for Murray, quite a few journeymen floating about and he ends up getting someone who couldn't have a million miles away from a seeding?:eek:

smurfs5

Rjd2 wrote: »

Thiem looks a talent as well,will be interesting to keep an eye on him.


Kokkinakis was very unlucky against Gasquet, got injured in the fourth set and could barely move, it was actually quite grim to watch but definitely seen enough in him that in a few years he could be a threat.

yeah its a brutal draw for Murray, quite a few journeymen floating about and he ends up getting someone who couldn't have a million miles away from a seeding?:eek:

Yes, I edited my post to include Kokkinakis and I forgot about Thiem- haven't seen much of him but from what I've read from ex-pros and pundits, there seems to be a lot of excitement around him. I'd say that in 5 years time, Coric, Kokkinakis, Thiem, Zverev and Kyrgios would be pretty good bets for the Top 10.

Rjd2

He can still win this can Nick, but some suicidal stuff in with moments of absolute genius.

cowboyBuilder

With Fed on such form , I really wanna see him play Nadal, these 2 need to meet again in a slam and I think the last time Fed beat him at a slam was 2007 - crazy really !!

walshb

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

With Fed on such form , I really wanna see him play Nadal, these 2 need to meet again in a slam and I think the last time Fed beat him at a slam was 2007 - crazy really !!

Yes. I think it was that long ago. I'd probably even back a less than best Nadal to beat a close to best Federer.

yerwanthere123

No real surprise to see Kyrgios picked apart by Murray. He's talented, but a long way to go.

Disappointed Laura lost yesterday, although from the little I saw of the match the talent is still there. I just hope she plays as many matches as possible for the remainder of the season and can finally start to make some progress in 2016.

Regarding Nadal's win over Coric, I don't think he'll have been too happy to drop a set, I feel that was the kind of match he needed to win in straights to boost the confidence. I still think he'll reach the QF's, but that's as far as he'll go.

It'd be nice if Kvitova could find some form in NY and restore parity to the women's draw, but I still think she'll have an early exit. Perhaps Schmiedlova will take her out in the third round? Either way if either Kvitova or Muguruza make the QF's from that section I'll be happy. Could well be neither though.

As for Pliskova, what can you say? #8 the world, #5 in the race and she's flopped at all four of the slams this year. Hope she doesn't make it to Singapore.

cowboyBuilder

walshb wrote: »

Yes. I think it was that long ago. I'd probably even back a less than best Nadal to beat a close to best Federer.

I'd agree, not on Nadal being great though, more to do with the fact that Federer turns into a weak little kitten when he plays Nadal - at least at best of 5 setters.

walshb

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I'd agree, not on Nadal being great though, more to do with the fact that Federer turns into a weak little kitten when he plays Nadal - at least at best of 5 setters.

His UE count seems to skyrocket when playing Nadal.

cowboyBuilder

walshb wrote: »

His UE count seems to skyrocket when playing Nadal.

Yep, and he does terrible on the BIG points ...

But still, I wanna see them play, when are they scheduled to meet ?

walshb

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

Yep, and he does terrible on the BIG points ...

But still, I wanna see them play, when are they scheduled to meet ?

I was going to ask you the same thing. Isn't it the QFs?

cowboyBuilder

No idea, can't see how I can find out either, the draws available are rubbish quality

walshb

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

No idea, can't see how I can find out either, the draws available are rubbish quality

Ok, Nole meets Nadal in QFs, and Fed is seeded 2, so Fed won't meet Nadal until the final.

lostcat

walshb wrote: »

Ok, Nole meets Nadal in QFs, and Fed is seeded 2, so Fed won't meet Nadal until the final.

Unlikely so, athough if djokovic has a meltdown or something and nadal actually wins, his draw is very open until the final.

I never quite understood why Federer couldn't manage to beat Nadal more often. The optimal pattern of play for Federer seems obvious, just keep hitting nadals backhand repeatedly until a chance for a clean winner turns up or the backhand breaks down.

I think Federer was too proud/stubborn to concede that he couldn't beat him playing his 'normal' game (which in fairness was plenty good to beat everyone else at the time).

Nadal has no problem in 'shamelessly' hammering Federers backhand until that cracked....

cowboyBuilder

Oh no !!
Then I most definetely do not want NADAL to meet Federer ... Really hope Djokeravitch can win this one ...

Arytonblue

First post in tennis forum FTW. Just seen Dimitrov go out to Kukushkin in 5. Been a really poor year for him, 2014 really looked like his breakthrough year to some extent but he's just gone backwards this year, all that hype about him being baby Fed looks to be completely unfounded, he was winning slams regularly at this stage, his time to step up to the next level is really running out, fast. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Djoko, Fed (unless he retires), Murray and Wawrinka still as the big guns in 3 years time. This group of supposed next generation of stars really aren't living up to their billing. Hopefully I'm wrong, I just wanna see someone else win the slams (except Cilic, he doesn't count :pac:)

yerwanthere123

Arytonblue wrote: »

First post in tennis forum FTW. Just seen Dimitrov go out to Kukushkin in 5. Been a really poor year for him, 2014 really looked like his breakthrough year to some extent but he's just gone backwards this year, all that hype about him being baby Fed looks to be completely unfounded, he was winning slams regularly at this stage, his time to step up to the next level is really running out, fast. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Djoko, Fed (unless he retires), Murray and Wawrinka still as the big guns in 3 years time. This group of supposed next generation of stars really aren't living up to their billing. Hopefully I'm wrong, I just wanna see someone else win the slams (except Cilic, he doesn't count :pac:)

It honestly wouldn't be that surprising. The future of men's tennis looks pretty grim right now.

Next up on Ashe after Venus is the Djokovic-Haider-Maurer match. We're all staying up to watch that one yeah? :pac:

walshb

lostcat wrote: »

I never quite understood why Federer couldn't manage to beat Nadal more often. The optimal pattern of play for Federer seems obvious, just keep hitting nadals backhand repeatedly until a chance for a clean winner turns up or the backhand breaks down.

I think Nadal's success is a combination of things. Main thing (forgetting the brilliance of Nadal) being his defence and retrieval abilities. He runs down almost anything that Fed throws at him, making Fed play the extra shots, which he misses a lot of the times. I don't how many points I have seen between the two where Federer is in real control, and so close to closing out the point only for Nadal to retrieve and get the ball back to then win the point via a Fed UE. It adds up to games. It is also soul destroying for Fed and his fans that Fed has to almost shoot Nadal to earn some points. Not sure of their stats, but I'd hazard a guess that Fed has more winners in most of his matches vs. Nadal. It's the UE count that kills him.

walshb

Kiki's outburst after her 1st set loss to Serena was disgraceful. She should be thoroughly reprimanded. Should have been DQd!

Ok, was the racket smashing at the end of the match or at the end of the first set?

Gunslinger92

walshb wrote: »

Kiki's outburst after her loss to Serena was disgraceful. She should be thoroughly reprimanded.

Any link?

I am going mad not having any channel that shows this. Have had sky sports the last few years so this is awful

the monkey closed his account? :eek:

walshb

Gunslinger92 wrote: »

Any link?

I am going mad not having any channel that shows this. Have had sky sports the last few years so this is awful

the monkey closed his account? :eek:

It was on last night SS2. I will look for the link. It was a sustained outburst. Not just a smack, another smack. 5-6 smacks until she was satisfied. She destroyed the racket right under the umpire's nose. Bang out of order, and should not be let go unpunished.

I didn't hear any commentary on the incident from the commentators or the panel. I missed that, if they commented on it at all.

cowboyBuilder

The highlights are up on youtube, but just shows the loss of the point to give the set away and one throw of the racket...

walshb

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

The highlights are up on youtube, but just shows the loss of the point to give the set away and one throw of the racket...

Yes, I know the part you're talking about. The racket smashing happened when she was at her chair. I am not sure was it post-match or after 1st set... It was not nice to see. Really not. Not exaggerating. Just looked bad in the sport of tennis. Worse that it was a so called lady!

Gunslinger92

Sounds terribly unprofessional alright.

Murray currently two sets down to Mannarino. Still expect him to win but this is certainly unexpected.

Rjd2

Was that not Coco who went racquet smash crazy?