Gas Boiler replacement & relocation

budhabob

Hi All,

Currently purchasing a house which will need a number of jobs done, one of which is the heating. The rads are in reasonable nick, and are served by copper piping. The big issue is the current gas boiler, it is gas back boiler and a gas fire fronting it, located in a fire place. I would like to remove this, or at the very least disconnect it, and fit a new gas boiler in the kitchen or hall so it can be easily maintained, and ventilated.

What would the cost of this ROUGHLY be? I just want to get indications of cost i.e. 1-2k, 2-3k etc.

Also, would it be worth our while upgrading the watertank while at it? what would the rough cost be?

I appreciate without seeing the property its difficult to say, i'm just trying to get indications is all.

Thanks in advance,

Rob

Dtp1979

budhabob wrote: »

Hi All,

Currently purchasing a house which will need a number of jobs done, one of which is the heating. The rads are in reasonable nick, and are served by copper piping. The big issue is the current gas boiler, it is gas back boiler and a gas fire fronting it, located in a fire place. I would like to remove this, or at the very least disconnect it, and fit a new gas boiler in the kitchen or hall so it can be easily maintained, and ventilated.

What would the cost of this ROUGHLY be? I just want to get indications of cost i.e. 1-2k, 2-3k etc.

Also, would it be worth our while upgrading the watertank while at it? what would the rough cost be?

I appreciate without seeing the property its difficult to say, i'm just trying to get indications is all.

Thanks in advance,

Rob

Very hard to give an accurate price. If I were you I'd go for the seai grant but you'd need to spend a little more in order to get a much more efficient heating system. You'd be looking at around 3-4k

budhabob

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Very hard to give an accurate price. If I were you I'd go for the seai grant but you'd need to spend a little more in order to get a much more efficient heating system. You'd be looking at around 3-4k

This would involve zoning aswell right? thats the requirement for the grant? Must do some research on it actually now that you point it out.

Dtp1979

budhabob wrote: »

This would involve zoning aswell right? thats the requirement for the grant? Must do some research on it actually now that you point it out.

Yes that would include zoning. That's a ballpark figure.

budhabob

Thanks, I appreciate these are only guide prices, but Itll allow me to put an indicative budget together for works to be done.

Peppa Pig

Sort of asking to hijack this thread as the answer to my question only seems have been answered going back a few years. Looking for an up to date estimate.

Any idea of the rough cost purely to replace the gas boiler and add new stats. Piping is already there for zonal to upstairs, downstairs and water. I'd imagine it's supply and fit the new boiler and fit new stats and valves (preferably wireless as the downstairs stat was never wired in :rolleyes:)

Have a plumber's website quoting €1500 after the SEAI grant.

Dtp1979

Peppa Pig wrote: »

Sort of asking to hijack this thread as the answer to my question only seems have been answered going back a few years. Looking for an up to date estimate.

Any idea of the rough cost purely to replace the gas boiler and add new stats. Piping is already there for zonal to upstairs, downstairs and water. I'd imagine it's supply and fit the new boiler and fit new stats and valves (preferably wireless as the downstairs stat was never wired in :rolleyes:)

Have a plumber's website quoting €1500 after the SEAI grant.

1500?? So that's a full job for 2250 before grant. Once again another cheap price. A basic boiler install with powerflush would just about cover the 2000 price. Adding in controls to meet Seai spec should, by right, be adding at least another 1,000.
It's these sort of cowboys doing cheap installs that keep me so busy coming back to repair them so I can't complain too much. peppapig, get the job done professionally for your own sake.

Peppa Pig

So about €3000, grand.

I checked again and the power flush was recommended but not in the price. Brought the quote to €2650, not too far off.

Are there price differences between boilers (same as cars, I suppose).
Also - what is in the control kit that costs €1000
Thanks

Dtp1979

Peppa Pig wrote: »

So about €3000, grand.

I checked again and the power flush was recommended but not in the price. Brought the quote to €2650, not too far off.

Are there price differences between boilers (same as cars, I suppose).
Also - what is in the control kit that costs €1000
Thanks

Price don't vary too much between the boilers. It's the quality of the work and price accordingly that vary.
1,000 is a rough guide but that'd include 3,4,5, and 7 core wire, clips, conduit, junction boxes automatic bypass valve and fittings, wall stats, cylinder stat, relays maybe, motorised valves, and digital time clock, analog time clock for immersion, and labour of course.
People get excited about the "cheap" price and often end up paying extra in the long run.
This installer doesn't even include a powerflush in his price. To me that says It all really. Is he even including a magnetic filter, good quality chemicals? ( plenty of cheap crap on the market)

Peppa Pig

Dtp1979 wrote: »

This installer doesn't even include a powerflush in his price. To me that says It all really. Is he even including a magnetic filter, good quality chemicals? ( plenty of cheap crap on the market)

It was the only price I could see with a google search, just needed a rough idea. I've contacted 8 local installers and they'll quote when the see what I want.
At least I can ask a few "technical" questions
Thanks for the help

budhabob

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Price don't vary too much between the boilers. It's the quality of the work and price accordingly that vary.
1,000 is a rough guide but that'd include 3,4,5, and 7 core wire, clips, conduit, junction boxes automatic bypass valve and fittings, wall stats, cylinder stat, relays maybe, motorised valves, and digital time clock, analog time clock for immersion, and labour of course.
People get excited about the "cheap" price and often end up paying extra in the long run.
This installer doesn't even include a powerflush in his price. To me that says It all really. Is he even including a magnetic filter, good quality chemicals? ( plenty of cheap crap on the market)

Outta curiosity, I presume you work in this area? If so what region do you operate in?

Dtp1979

budhabob wrote: »

Outta curiosity, I presume you work in this area? If so what region do you operate in?

I'm based in Leinster

casey80

Hi DTP,
Could you tell me if powerflush is required when I replace not only boiler but rads as well?

Dtp1979

casey80 wrote: »

Hi DTP,
Could you tell me if powerflush is required when I replace not only boiler but rads as well?

Yes, simply because there could be dirt in the pipework too. It should be done at a discount as the process would be much quicker. But you shouldn't have to change the rads if the flush is successful

casey80

The rads are 17 year old, so I want to change them together with boiler. Could you give a price range of what should powerflush in this situation cost? Or in other words, how much of a discount can I ask for?

Dtp1979

casey80 wrote: »

The rads are 17 year old, so I want to change them together with boiler. Could you give a price range of what should powerflush in this situation cost? Or in other words, how much of a discount can I ask for?

Well if you get the person whose doing the flush to install the rads maybe

budhabob

The gas connection / meter is under the stairs (its a terraced property), would I be wise moving that to the outside of the house. If so what costs would be associated with it (Ball park again)?

I came across this thread, but am none the wiser as to how to proceed: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75143940

Thanks in advance.

budhabob

What would those in the know recommend when replace a boiler? Replace with a high efficiency boiler and associated cylinder, or replace with a combi high efficiency boiler.

Getting the keys for the house soon so will be getting quotes then. Just want to have an idea what i'm talking about to ask the right questions and challenge appropriately.