Irish Protestants

William F

There are just over 100 thousand Protestants living in the 26 counties and they are now outnumbered by Polish people.

These aren't just any ethnicity, most of their ancestors came over during 16th/17th century and yet there is rarely a mention of them in the new 'multicultural' Ireland.

What future lies in store for them now that they're outnumbered by Poles?

Have we failed to protect them as a minority group?

testicle

Burn the heretics!

darkpagandeath

Yeah because slightly different views on the same sky wizard book makes you different..... They are Christians.

William F

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yeah because slightly different views on the same sky wizard book makes you different..... They are Christians.

with a distinct cultural heritage

Jerrica

I'm white, mid-thirties, married, one child, with a well-salaried pensionable job, baptised into the Church of Ireland. I like to bake, I plan on making home-made jam this autumn. I have been known to watch cricket and attended a good private Protestant ethos south-side school, with the vast majority of my peers finding themselves in similar grown-up situations.

Of all the minority groups out there, we do not need to be protected.

LDN_Irish

Have we failed to protect Anglo Irish Protestants because we've allowed then to be overtaken as the largest minority group? Eh, no.

somesoldiers

I heard they get a slice of bread and a glass of wine at mass aka service, I wanna be one but no Christmas would be a bummer

desertcircus

William F wrote: »

with a distinct cultural heritage

Religious aspects aside, Irish Protestants are indistinguishable from Irish Catholics in day to day life.

Sunnyisland

My sister married a donegal church of Ireland lad.
My cousin married a church of England lad.

In my opinion there robbing our women




Ha ha ha

weldoninhio

William F wrote: »

There are just over 100 thousand Protestants living in the 26 counties and they are now outnumbered by Polish people.

These aren't just any ethnicity, most of their ancestors came over during 16th/17th century and yet there is rarely a mention of them in the new 'multicultural' Ireland.

What future lies in store for them now that they're outnumbered by Poles?

Have we failed to protect them as a minority group?

Protected?? They'd eat ya, soon as look at ya I've heard.

OldGoat

I think the blanket term Christians had way too much dark history and a generally unappealing draw to non-Christians. Now if they called themselves Christmassians I think we would all find them easier to accept into our increasingly secular lives.

Christmassians.

Peregrinus

Per the 2011 census, there are about 208,000 Protestants in the Republic, up from 203,000 in 2006.

Though as a percentage of the total population, they have fallen from 4.8% to 4.6%. The percentage fall is partly due to the influx of Poles, etc that you point to yourself, and partly to the rise in the percentage of the population identifying as unbelievers.

Their position is in fact improving, and has been since a low point in the mid-90s. Protestantism in the Republic has been growing, not shrinking for the last 20 years. I don't see that being "outnumbered by Poles" presents a particular threat to Protestants, to be honest. They are also outnumbered by left-handed people. So what?

William F

desertcircus wrote: »

Religious aspects aside, Irish Protestants are indistinguishable from Irish Catholics in day to day life.

are they really??

kev1.3s

somesoldiers wrote: »

I heard they get a slice of bread and a glass of wine at mass aka service, I wanna be one but no Christmas would be a bummer

No Christmas? Well I never knew that, so Santa only comes to Catholics?

The Corinthian

desertcircus wrote: »

Religious aspects aside, Irish Protestants are indistinguishable from Irish Catholics in day to day life.

Except from when they nip to the toilet to drink from a vial of children's blood they carry around with them.

And when they shape-shift back to their natural lizard-man forms.

somesoldiers

kev1.3s wrote: »

No Christmas? Well I never knew that, so Santa only comes to Catholics?

yes, they are too busy dancing around Newgrange in the noddy

The Corinthian

kev1.3s wrote: »

No Christmas? Well I never knew that, so Santa only comes to Catholics?

Older man visiting children late at night... yeah, it's kind of a Catholic thing alright.

Eugene Norman

Of course Protestants have Christmas. Cromwell had a bit of a hang up about it but that's about it.

OldMrBrennan83

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The Backwards Man

Where I live is about 20-25℅ Protestant, and the only difference is Protestants are less likely to go to church on Sunday, as there are less people there in order for them to be 'seen'.

sjb25

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donegaLroad

Im a Norman.. what about us?

And dont forget the Vikings either.

byte

donegaLroad wrote: »

Im a Norman.. what about us?

And dont forget the Vikings either.

Hi, Norman!

Fratton Fred

I had a good laugh about this type of thing at a party where most of the people were parents from the same CofI school, so mostly Anglicans.

It surprised me how protestents are thought of here. One woman was laughing about a guy she was dating for a few months, but then dumped her because he was getting too involved and there was no way he could take a protestant home to his mother :eek:

Another one that made several of them laugh in general recognition, was being asked who they would support when England play Ireland, then there was the general look of surprise when mentioning family baptisms, confirmations Christmas etc as if those were things reserved solely for Catholics.

Anglicans, Methodists, Presbytarians etc are generally white christians, they aren't a different ethnic group, but they end up getting treated as such because of the bizarre education system in this country that creates segregation from an early age.

JustTheOne

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I had a good laugh about this type of thing at a party where most of the people were parents from the same CofI school, so mostly Anglicans.

It surprised me how protestents are thought of here. One woman was laughing about a guy she was dating for a few months, but then dumped her because he was getting too involved and there was no way he could take a protestant home to his mother :eek:

Another one that made several of them laugh in general recognition, was being asked who they would support when England play Ireland, then there was the general look of surprise when mentioning family baptisms, confirmations Christmas etc as if those were things reserved solely for Catholics.

Anglicans, Methodists, Presbytarians etc are generally white christians, they aren't a different ethnic group, but they end up getting treated as such because of the bizarre education system in this country that creates segregation from an early age.

Aye and our protestant neighbours up the road are a shining example of integration and living side by side with their opposites.

Fratton Fred

JustTheOne wrote: »

Aye and our protestant neighbours up the road are a shining example of integration and living side by side with their opposites.

Yes, you are correct. They are a good example of protestants everywhere and we should burn them all, immediately:rolleyes:

The Backwards Man

JustTheOne wrote: »

Aye and our protestant neighbours up the road are a shining example of integration and living side by side with their opposites.

And our Protestant neighbours across the Irish Sea are probably the most tolerant and welcoming people on the face of the Earth

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

William F wrote: »

with a distinct cultural heritage

My eye!

Take that line and we will have dozens of ethnic groups within Irish Catholics whose ancestors came from viking, celtic, anglo saxon etc stock.

JustTheOne

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Yes, you are correct. They are a good example of protestants everywhere and we should burn them all, immediately:rolleyes:

Huh? Where did I mention burn them. That's a bit extreme now.

But maybe if they didn't have hate marches and burn tricolours every year people down south might see them in a better light.

I dunno just on opinion I suppose but people are fickle in forming an opinion and flag burning and orange order men attempting to murder young Catholics by running over them in cars doesn't really help.

kneemos

JustTheOne wrote: »

Aye and our protestant neighbours up the road are a shining example of integration and living side by side with their opposites.

Doesn't look great in your house either.

Not a NSA agent

JustTheOne wrote: »

Huh? Where did I mention burn them. That's a bit extreme now.

But maybe if they didn't have hate marches and burn tricolours every year people down south might see them in a better light.

I dunno just on opinion I suppose but people are fickle in forming an opinion and flag burning and orange order men attempting to murder young Catholics by running over them in cars doesn't really help.

Those Protestants up to no good as usual.

desertcircus

William F wrote: »

are they really??

Yes, they really are. Do you have any examples of non-religious characteristics that would mark out Ireland's Protestant population as being substantively different to its Catholic population? And I do mean substantively: a fondness for traybakes doesn't count.

The Corinthian

desertcircus wrote: »

Yes, they really are. Do you have any examples of non-religious characteristics that would mark out Ireland's Protestant population as being substantively different to its Catholic population? And I do mean substantively: a fondness for traybakes doesn't count.

Cricket. Their interest in that game was always very suspect.

Fratton Fred

The Corinthian wrote: »

Cricket. Their interest in that game was always very suspect.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzYJx4wFoO7IeTdpNEVHQmdtR00/edit?pli=1

maisiedaisy

Names. You'd rarely find a Norman McCarthy or Melvyn Murphy. First names probably aren't such an identifier any more, but surnames still are

BattleCorp

How do you know E.T. was a protestant?












Because he looked like one. :pac:

LeinsterDub

William F wrote: »

There are just over 100 thousand Protestants living in the 26 counties and they are now outnumbered by Polish people.?

Breeding program?

dan1895

desertcircus wrote: »

Yes, they really are. Do you have any examples of non-religious characteristics that would mark out Ireland's Protestant population as being substantively different to its Catholic population? And I do mean substantively: a fondness for traybakes doesn't count.

Ha! I was waiting for someone to mention traybakes.

kylith

Are protestants discriminated against, that they need protection?

Wibbs

There's also a big tendency to see "Protestant" as a homogenous group. It's not. It's a very broad church(no pun). There is a world of difference between say a CofI mindset and a free Presbyterian one. It also depends where such a Presbyterian lives and what culture they are brought up in. A Presbyterian from Belfast is different again to one from Boston. Catholicism is relatively homogenous, with some local colour, but Protestantism has more variety. Been like that from the start. At one stage there were new factions springing up near weekly. Some of the weirder ones in the US come from real oddball varieties that even their fellow Protestants in Europe thought were a bit "out there". And yes such sects were as likely to be shunned by other Protestants as much as they were by Catholics. The various Protestant sects burned way more witches and heretics than the Inquisition ever did contrary to popular belief and post Reformation propaganda.

Fratton Fred

maisiedaisy wrote: »

Names. You'd rarely find a Norman McCarthy or Melvyn Murphy. First names probably aren't such an identifier any more, but surnames still are

who the **** calls their kids Melvyn?

maisiedaisy

Fratton Fred wrote: »

who the **** calls their kids Melvyn?

You'd be surprised....I know 3!

blue5000

desertcircus wrote: »

Yes, they really are. Do you have any examples of non-religious characteristics that would mark out Ireland's Protestant population as being substantively different to its Catholic population? And I do mean substantively: a fondness for traybakes doesn't count.

Biology lecturer told us that protestants in the Limerick area have a higher proportion of a particular blood group, O negative, it's always wanted for donations because it can be given to anyone in an emergency.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/blood-transfusion/expert-answers/universal-blood-donor-type/faq-20058229

Fratton Fred

Wibbs wrote: »

There's also a big tendency to see "Protestant" as a homogenous group. It's not. It's a very broad church(no pun). There is a world of difference between say a CofI mindset and a free Presbyterian one. It also depends where such a Presbyterian lives and what culture they are brought up in. A Presbyterian from Belfast is different again to one from Boston. Catholicism is relatively homogenous, with some local colour, but Protestantism has more variety. Been like that from the start. At one stage there were new factions springing up near weekly. Some of the weirder ones in the US come from real oddball varieties that even their fellow Protestants in Europe thought were a bit "out there". And yes such sects were as likely to be shunned by other Protestants as much as they were by Catholics. The various Protestant sects burned way more witches and heretics than the Inquisition ever did contrary to popular belief and post Reformation propaganda.

or, put another way, Protestant is basically every stream of Christianity that isn't Roman Catholic or Orthodox.

Of the 2.5 Billion Christians out there, about 1 Billion are what would be considered "Protestant".

Chips Lovell

Most protestants keep it fairly low key and are careful about who they'd tell about their religion.

Crooked Jack

There's some prod in Louth called Gerry Adams. Ya couldn't be up to them.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/article165312.ece

Gerry Adams cuts out middleman with 'Protestant' beliefs

The Sinn Fein leader confesses his faith is not unquestionably Catholic
Lynne Kelleher
Published: 26 April 2009
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Gerry Adams has admitted that his religious beliefs are more compatible with Protestantism than Catholicism. The Sinn Fein president has revealed that he has not gone to confession "in years", preferring to speak directly to God.

"I have formed an opinion - and it's probably a Protestant thing - that the notion of having some sort of middleman isn't altogether necessary," Adams said in an interview to be broadcast tonight on RTE television.

He also expresses admiration for Protestant churches, and believes that Christian churches should be united. "I think the Methodists are the best, but I love the democratic nature of the Presbyterian church," Adams told Gay Byrne, the presenter who conducts the interview. "I also think it's downright nonsense that Christian churches are so divided. I think it's madness."

Fratton Fred

maisiedaisy wrote: »

You'd be surprised....I know 3!

have you contacted child line?

Fratton Fred

Crooked Jack wrote: »

There's some prod in Louth called Gerry Adams. Ya couldn't be up to them.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/article165312.ece

what's a "Prod"?

The Backwards Man

blue5000 wrote: »

Biology lecturer told us that protestants in the Limerick area have a higher proportion of a particular blood group, O negative, it's always wanted for donations because it can be given to anyone in an emergency.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/blood-transfusion/expert-answers/universal-blood-donor-type/faq-20058229

Luckily everyone has their blood type stamped on their forehead so we can suss them out eh?

wilhelm roentgen

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Most protestants keep it fairly low key and are careful about who they'd tell about their religion.

That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's why it's the church for me. That's why it's the church for anyone who respects the individual and the individual's right to decide for him or herself. When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen-seventeen, he may not have realised the full significance of what he was doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear whatever I want on my John Thomas...

Crooked Jack

Fratton Fred wrote: »

what's a "Prod"?

It's a thing you use for getting cattle to move