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jnlrs 2015

  • 29-07-2015 10:38am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭


    Out today 30th july
    wonder if niel prenderville red fm will pass out pj coogan on corks 96fm. It will be 15 months of a book for niels new show.
    will anton savage do well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    I think it'd be a good book for Anton Savage if he stays north of 200,000. I think a dip is inevitable (given that Ray D'Arcy was dipping up and down anyway when he left), so I wouldn't read anything major into this book.

    Colm Hayes' last book, so we'll see just how bad his figures got. And Breakfast Republic will be interesting too.

    D'Arcy's initial figures will be interesting too. Whereas I'd expect Anton to dip, I'd expect Ray to increase the listenership in his slot by drawing his listeners over.

    And can NT's run of good books continue? I hope so. Breakfast has been superb recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    It will be interesting to see if FM104's slight shudder in the last book was just a blip or have they begun to lose their massive listenership.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    I think it'd be a good book for Anton Savage if he stays north of 200,000. I think a dip is inevitable (given that Ray D'Arcy was dipping up and down anyway when he left), so I wouldn't read anything major into this book.

    Colm Hayes' last book, so we'll see just how bad his figures got. And Breakfast Republic will be interesting too.

    D'Arcy's initial figures will be interesting too. Whereas I'd expect Anton to dip, I'd expect Ray to increase the listenership in his slot by drawing his listeners over.

    And can NT's run of good books continue? I hope so. Breakfast has been superb recently.

    Darcy has been chronic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Sports Bra


    I wonder will RTE announce the departure of Tubs from 2fm before or after the results are published ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭buckfasterer


    Darcy has been chronic!

    Unreal bad. Did anyone hear him on with Eddie Hobbs last week@ Didn't take him long to start towing the company line and get all defensive anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Colm Hayes' last book, so we'll see just how bad his figures got. And Breakfast Republic will be interesting too.

    Not like you not to have your homework done but Colm Hayes was up 6k in
    Q1/2015 compared to Will Leahy in Q1/2014. In fact Colm Hayes's ratings are quite respectable on 2fm since his arrival. Shunting him to weekend breakfast will only mean one thing, a ratings increase.
    As for the Repubic of Breakfast it must be the worst recorded ratings for a breakfast show on 2FM.
    How have they stuck with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Hoping to see Ray Foley making gains, however small they might be. The show deserves a bigger listenership imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Hoping to see Ray Foley making gains, however small they might be. The show deserves a bigger listenership imo.

    I used to listen to him on Today FM - I don't even have 98fm as a preset. That's a big problem I would imagine.

    Stations presume that people will tune in to a particular presenter but unless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Darcy has been chronic!

    Agreed. However, I still stand by saying if it's to be considered a good book for him he really needs to at least keep Mooney's listenership. You'd imagine a chunk of Mooney's listeners would stay tuned to give D'Arcy a chance, Liveline listeners who normally turned off for Mooney might give D'Arcy a go, and his Today FM listeners who followed him. While a decrease in listenership wouldn't be disastrous in and of itself, it'd sort of be a bad omen given how little positive coverage the show is getting.

    All IMO of course, he could probably lose 100k listeners and someone would find some way of spinning it in a positive light, as is the norm with JNLRs. :P
    bbability wrote: »
    Not like you not to have your homework done but Colm Hayes was up 6k in
    Q1/2015 compared to Will Leahy in Q1/2014. In fact Colm Hayes's ratings are quite respectable on 2fm since his arrival. Shunting him to weekend breakfast will only mean one thing, a ratings increase.

    Yeah, was aware of that, and praised him at the time for it. However, he was still not achieving the figures Will Leahy was. Leahy's last book in 2013 had him on 111k, Hayes' had 110k in Q1 this year, having dipped to ~100k during 2014.

    Maybe I'll be proven wrong this evening and he'll be up again. But I think it might be more likely that he stays solid or dips.

    No matter how you look at it, moving from weekday drive to weekend breakfast is a demotion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Is it 5pm these are usually released?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭smallfridge


    Stations have them since around midday and publicly yes around 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    RTE announcing a schedule change an hour or so before the embargo ends usually suggests the station in question (2FM) has dire figures - its happened a few times recently!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    www.ilevel.ie

    All there!

    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Ryaner179


    L1011 wrote: »
    RTE announcing a schedule change an hour or so before the embargo ends usually suggests the station in question (2FM) has dire figures - its happened a few times recently!

    Not really no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Wowzers!

    First off, fair play as usual to the ilevel guys. Stellar work. Genuinely, you guys make JNLR day so much fun because you present it in a clear manner. Cannot praise the site enough.


    Right, onto radio...

    Radio 1
    Ray D'Arcy up 7,000 in the slot. Down 22k from his last Today FM book. Expected him to increase. As usual with split books and early books, pretty meaningless overall. Time will tell, etc.
    Gains book on book pretty much everywhere else.

    2FM
    Jesus, compared to recent books, this is a veritable oasis in the storm for 2FM.

    - Breakfast Republic up 10,000 book on book, up 8,000 year on year, AND all that with the tail end of their show donated to Tubridy. Fair play.
    - Tubridy up 2k book on book, continuing his upswing. Fair dues. Obviously tainted somewhat by that time shift, but still.
    - Nicky Byrne holding his listeners and up year on year.
    - Gains for both Game On and Rick O'Shea

    The only black mark on their copybook is Colm Hayes, who marks his final book on drivetime with a loss of 4,000 listeners.


    Today FM
    Today FM have probably have had the worst book of the nationals.

    - Dempsey down 11,000 book on book, down 13,000 year on year.
    - Anton Savage down 18,000. An inevitable drop, but undeniably a big one. I think he's talented enough to regain listeners though, I'd be hoping the word would spread and more people who stopped listening to D'Arcy might return...
    - Dermot and Dave and Louise Duffy down 4,000 each. Still new-ish shows, but worrying signs.
    - Matt Cooper down 12,000. This one surprises me as I find him to be the best CA option at that time of the eveing...

    Newstalk
    Mixed bag here.

    - Breakfast up 1,000. Fully deserved as they've been doing great stuff lately.
    - Pat Kenny down 8,000. This is definitely going to be the headline of this book...
    - Lunchtime down 2,000.
    - Moncrieff holding strong. Up 4,000 year on year, no change book on book.
    - Hooky Monster up 5,000.
    - OTB down 1,000, but still up 2k year on year.

    Did not expect Pat to decline like that. I was full sure he'd continue on an upward trajectory until he became the most listened to show on the station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭RomanKnows


    Isn't Hook due to retire? That growth in figures might persuade him to stay on. I'm sure the wonderful Ingrid wouldn't mind him out of the house for a few hours either.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Ryaner179 wrote: »
    Not really no

    Poor Dublin performance, good outside Dublin. Makes the decision to try ensure all shows were done from Dublin a bit silly really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭ofcork


    I cant see the figures for cork as both red and 96 are claiming to be no1 whos telling the truth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    ofcork wrote: »
    I cant see the figures for cork as both red and 96 are claiming to be no1 whos telling the truth?

    Both. They probably just have different criteria. The day of and day after JNLR day is a masterclass in spin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Red gave a number for neil p and 96 had a figure on the news for pj could have sworn neils was higher.i think 96 are combining theirs with 103 too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    ofcork wrote: »
    Red gave a number for neil p and 96 had a figure on the news for pj could have sworn neils was higher.i think 96 are combining theirs with 103 too.

    Scroll down here.These are the daily listenership figures for each station.

    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-regional-local-stations

    Red are now 123k from 79k last year.
    96fm are now 115k from 140k last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭ofcork


    So red ARE ahead of 96 for the first time ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    On Twitter Neil says his show has 85k daily.96fm say that PJ has 73k daily and that they are still No.1

    Who is fooling who.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭ofcork


    I knew I heard that on the 96 news that they were no1 even though pj has less than neil,96 have some serious questions to ask themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    Any lyric nos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    honeybear wrote: »
    Any lyric nos?

    131k daily listeners.Down 7k from last year.

    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-national-listenership


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    honeybear wrote: »
    Any lyric nos?

    Every slot has lost listeners book on book. Marty Whelan is up 5,000 year on year, Liz Nolan and Jazz Alley are down this book, but unchanged year on year, and Classical Daytime and John Kelly are down year on year.

    All is here on ilevel: http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-station-programmes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Every slot has lost listeners book on book. Marty Whelan is up 5,000 year on year, Liz Nolan and Jazz Alley are down this book, but unchanged year on year, and Classical Daytime and John Kelly are down year on year.

    All is here on ilevel: http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-station-programmes


    Go Marty!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    Any figures on the Red Fm and 96Fm breakfast shows?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Any figures on the Red Fm and 96Fm breakfast shows?

    It's up above by Rhys Essien.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Rosie Gardens


    Few shockers there...

    Not surprised Anton dropped, but he'll get the listeners back, he's FAR too talented a broadcaster for anything else.

    Shocked at the Kenny drop. Jaysus, never saw that coming, EVER.

    Can't get over the Matt Cooper drop though. One of the best shows on the radio. Politics, sport, music and pop culture all relatively brilliantly discussed. That's probably (for me at least) the biggest shocker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    So just having a scan through the Dublin Stations first and its hard to believe that 98FM have not got one single show in the Top 20. I'm shocked. Spin1038 now seem to be out growing thier neighbours. This talk show business in the mornings is killing them if the results on ilevel.ie are correct and Ray Foley just has not connected with the Dublin Mafia

    The Top 20 in Dublin tells a tale or two. I would like to see a Top 20 without National Stations. Its a pity that's not there however so I have chopped it down to the top shows minus the National Stations

    Steve K leads the way with 90k Listeners on his show on Spin,
    Andy Preston as always has an impressive 87k tuned into the 10-3 show on FM104. The Strawberry Alarm Clock has 83k and The Jam is next with 70k which shows that FM104 the only station with all daytime shows in the Top 20 in Dublin. Q102's Dave Harrington next with 43k and Spin 1038 Fully Charged 43k and Number 20 in the most listened to shows in Dublin.

    On a national level, I wouldn't be too concerned with Today FM. The loss of Tony Fenton and the departure of Ray Darcy was always going to have an impact. I don't think they can sustain Louise Duffy having only 8k more listeners on a national station in comparision to Steve K on Spin who might be the man to fit that slot. Time will tell.
    Phil Cawley has impressive figures and he seems to connect to listeners no matter where he's put and with 153k listeners to his Saturday Show on Today FM, Dave Fanning may aswell hang up the earphones and turn down the mike, he doesn't even make the Top 30.
    Speaking of Top 30 National Radio shows RTE 1 are covering the Top 15 slots. Anton Savage (although on the drop) is next at 16. RTE 1 have all their weekday daytime shows in the Top 30. Ryan Tubridy and Nicky Byrne feature for 2fm and reliable Ian Dempsey and Matt Cooper also feature. Suprised that Dermot and Dave are not there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101



    Shocked at the Kenny drop. Jaysus, never saw that coming, EVER.

    I'm not really. When Pat first moved to Newstalk I just planned to follow him over, but over time I've become more and more inclined to listen to Sean O'Rourke. It's just a better show and O'Rourke is a better presenter. He's far more balanced then Kenny is these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    How did iRadio do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    I'm not really. When Pat first moved to Newstalk I just planned to follow him over, but over time I've become more and more inclined to listen to Sean O'Rourke. It's just a better show and O'Rourke is a better presenter. He's far more balanced then Kenny is these days.

    I agree. Felt that I would switch stations but never really do unless there is a poor guest on SOR.

    Can't listen to Matt Cooper as I don't like his voice/intonation. His devil's advocate style of questioning gets annoying also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    How did iRadio do?
    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-regional-local-stations

    All the regionals are under tabs - in general they do well, still not as well as the Home locals - but at times better than the Nationals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭John Joe Jones


    I find the Matt Cooper show annoying because of how often Charlie Weston and Conor Faulkner are on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    I added another small take on Cork as there were a few questions here and elsewhere.
    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-cork-listenership

    I also updated the Dublin part - with the station programmes - without the nationals.
    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio/jnlr-2015q2-dublin-listenership#update

    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Dublin Talks at 10am on 98FM overtakes the FM104 Phoneshow at 10pm. That the first time it has happened since AK moved over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    iseegirls wrote: »
    Dublin Talks at 10am on 98FM overtakes the FM104 Phoneshow at 10pm. That the first time it has happened since AK moved over?

    No, its been ahead for some time, possibly since day 1 even. It actually lost listenership book on book (as did 104's phoneshow, but not as much).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭chilloutrelax


    iseegirls wrote: »
    Dublin Talks at 10am on 98FM overtakes the FM104 Phoneshow at 10pm. That the first time it has happened since AK moved over?


    Can't really compare the two, Dublin talks is on during prime time when radio listening peaks everywhere. FM104 is on late night and despite the drop is still way ahead for that time. The repeat show on 98 only has 8,000 listeners.

    They must be concerned in 98FM as the show has had little impact. The shows listenership must be what was there before or close and it didn't increase book on book. It is also 10,000 behind Spin talk an equivalent day time show on another Dublin station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Can't really compare the two, Dublin talks is on during prime time when radio listening peaks everywhere. FM104 is on late night and despite the drop is still way ahead for that time. The repeat show on 98 only has 8,000 listeners.

    They must be concerned in 98FM as the show has had little impact. The shows listenership must be what was there before or close and it didn't increase book on book. It is also 10,000 behind Spin talk an equivalent day time show on another Dublin station.

    Yep true. Just after listening to the AK interview the other day - he's (not secretly) delighted that the 104 Phoneshow has dropped so much in the figures.

    Yes looking at the overall day for 98FM, it dips when Dublin Talks is on, and then goes up for Barry Dunne - so it doesn't seem to be having the desired effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭soc160


    iseegirls wrote: »
    Yep true. Just after listening to the AK interview the other day - he's (not secretly) delighted that the 104 Phoneshow has dropped so much in the figures.

    Yes looking at the overall day for 98FM, it dips when Dublin Talks is on, and then goes up for Barry Dunne - so it doesn't seem to be having the desired effect.


    98's problem is they don't know who they are targeting, from Foley to Dublin Talks is a big leap, historically the audience would jump at 10am after breakfast, mainly because the audience dips off while people go to work from 9 -10. Adrian said in his interview recently people would take a smoke break to ring the show, which i just don't believe, it's not something that has that office feel to it, it's too serious and I couldn't imagine trying to follow a debate if I was working in an office.

    There is a market for the show, mainly for people who aren't at work. This is his first full year and book on book his figures have declined, it's static now compared to last year but those figure include Barry Dunne's old show at that time. We will see some growth I imagine once they establish themselves more. I'd imagine they have a potential audience of about 40k to gain, but in contrast with everything else at that time it's a small fish, although it's never fair to directly compare stuff but when Spin's talk show is out performing you by about 10k it doesn't bode well.

    If people want talk at that time the options are vast, NT, Today, 2fm and Radio 1, this kind of leaves them with a small group of potential listeners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    Well done to all at red fm well deserved. All shows now no 1 big turn around in 15 months. Kc has worked wonders there. I seldom tune in 96fm now. For me its red newstalk and 4fm. I wonder how 4fm s new breakfast show performed and I see once again thier big in cork I wish they would acknowledge cork more. I find them very dublin orientated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Travismccoy


    Well done Sunshine. Some nice market share numbers in the 35+ demo. And that's despite the fact that the God awful robot/Sean Ashmore is on air for what seems like every minute of the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Well done Sunshine. Some nice market share numbers in the 35+ demo. And that's despite the fact that the God awful robot/Sean Ashmore is on air for what seems like every minute of the weekend.

    It's laughable how so far removed they are from their original licencing conditions.

    A complete farce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    It's laughable how so far removed they are from their original licencing conditions.

    A complete farce.

    But wholly within their new licence conditions, which proposes easy listening, some oldies, some Irish and soul music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    But wholly within their new licence conditions, which proposes easy listening, some oldies, some Irish and soul music

    And should never have been granted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 RadioAnalyst


    Has it really been 3 months since the last JNLR book? Working in the UK currently where RAJAR is just as frequent but not quite as newsworthy with the general public. Apologies for the lateness of my comments, I'll keep it brief. As always, they are divided into good book/bad book and as always too they are Dublin skewed.

    Good book for the inhabitants of Montrose with good results particularly for RTE Radio 1 which has had a very good book (gaining 1.5% market share on top of it's already large 32.3%) but has added a healthy 60k listeners since this time last year. Trends had been showing a gradual erosion of audience for Radio 1 heading to Newstalk but they have now added 2 listeners for every Newstalk 1 which will be a relief. The continuing good numbers for Sean O'Rourke (v Pat Kenny) will be particularly gratifying.

    Good book to for FM104 who after a bit of downward trending in recent books (albeit from a very high base) have a decent market share boost back up above 11% and there is now some clear space between themselves and Newstalk (last book the share gap was down to 0.2%). It seems the consistency that caused them to trend poorly of late is also causing them to maintain share over a longer period of time which is to be applauded.

    Good book too for the surprise package - Sunshine 106.8. Since losing the noose around their neck of Country music they have consistently gained both reach and share. In the last year, they have added more than 30k listeners and 1.5% in Market share. Lesson for others in there, pick a stool and sit on it. Sunshine have firmly pinned their colours to the Easy listening mast now and it's working for them, perhaps to the detriment of Q102. Who would have predicted a couple of years ago that Sunshine would be the star performer in the Castleforbes stable.

    Steady as she goes for Newstalk (small changes in reach and share but nothing significant and the overall trends are good), Spin 1038 (who deserve credit for recruiting and retaining younger listeners), Lyric FM and Nova although the latter is slipping a bit in share over time. Needs to take a leaf from Sunshines book.

    Not great books this time around for Q102 who continue to bounce around the ratings. This is a pattern that goes back to the Lite FM days and their soft share continues to move around. In political terms they are the ultimate in undecided voters. Their core of about 5% seems steady but they jump around 50% on occasion and then fall back. Bit of a setback here too for 98FM although the trend over the last few reports shows a slow recovery. Still a very long way to get near Spin, let alone FM104. Those days may be gone forever.

    Quarterly whipping boys TXFM continue their baffling masochistic race to the bottom of the ratings. They've managed to dump 1/4 of their share in 6 months (coming from a very low base already). Strikingly similar to how XFM are performing in London and seemingly doing pretty much the same thing. Still couldn't tell you by either the brand or the music as to who its target audience is - I suspect its shrinking audience wonders the same.

    2FM continues to be a real challenge in Dublin. They have added bodies over 12 months but lost bits of share which will be worrying for them. They really can't afford to slip any further behind Today FM who have almost always struggled in Dublin. The move of Tubridy back to Radio 1 will at least help in the stations consistency but the jury is still very much out as to whether they are attractive enough to their younger target audience.

    That's about it this time. Happy as always to answer any questions or deal with any lawsuits.

    RadioAnalyst


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Csalem


    I don't see it on the ilevel charts, but out of curiosity, does anyone know how many people listen to Rising Time? Am curious to know how many people up that early listening to the radio.

    Thanks. :)


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